| Kier Starmer is now the 00:39 - Feb 4 with 20847 views | onceablue |
Most unpopular Prime MInister ever it’s official
Crikey that takes some doing!!!!! |  | | |  |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 08:36 - Feb 4 with 1633 views | MattinLondon |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 08:08 - Feb 4 by giant_stow |
The 'this govt is sht' campaign is powerful, probably run by some clever people and doing it's job even amongst decent folk. |
Knowing how unpopular they are, the Tories deliberately run the country into the ground knowing that Labour will have to make some unpopular decisions.
Labour are forced to make unpopular decisions but over the next few years the economy gets back on track. The right-wing press slams Stramer at every opportunity.
The Tories sweep into power, rejoins the Single Market and never mentions Brexit again. |  | | |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 08:46 - Feb 4 with 1604 views | Guthrum |
He hasn't had to put iron shutters over his windows yet. |  |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 08:53 - Feb 4 with 1585 views | DJR |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 08:14 - Feb 4 by MattinLondon |
The Reform Party are just the BNP of the late 90s but with better PR and with more traitorous scum on the media. |
I just heard Farage interviewed on the Today Programme and offering no answers to our problems when pressed as to what he would do.
It's easy to sit on the side lines and carp. |  | | |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 08:56 - Feb 4 with 1572 views | mrshallisfit |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 07:19 - Feb 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I mean, who the F replies to these polls? I've never been asked what I think of the PM/government.
But a dictator is just bizarre. Voting for a dictator is an oxymoron.
This country is full of oxymorons. |
Well 52% of those Oxymorons voted for Brexit. | | | |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 09:18 - Feb 4 with 1500 views | Whos_blue |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 08:53 - Feb 4 by DJR |
I just heard Farage interviewed on the Today Programme and offering no answers to our problems when pressed as to what he would do.
It's easy to sit on the side lines and carp. |
Yeah. Something very fishy about reform.
Quite frankly I've Haddock nuff of them. |  |
| Distortion becomes somehow pure in its wildness. |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 09:22 - Feb 4 with 1470 views | blueasfook |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 06:34 - Feb 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Thick and selfish. The government is making unpopular decisions that needed to be made (instead of kicking them into the long grass like the Tories always did).
These will be unpopular with the people affected (farmers and pensioners for starters). |
Yeah those nasty pensioners. They deserve a financial kicking when they're struggling to heat their homes and put food on the table don't they. |  |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 09:39 - Feb 4 with 1385 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 09:22 - Feb 4 by blueasfook |
Yeah those nasty pensioners. They deserve a financial kicking when they're struggling to heat their homes and put food on the table don't they. |
Pensioners struggling to heat their homes and put food on the table won't be having their Winter Fuel Payment stopped. You've fallen for the right-wing media narrative. |  |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 09:39 - Feb 4 with 1380 views | PassionNotAnger |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 09:22 - Feb 4 by blueasfook |
Yeah those nasty pensioners. They deserve a financial kicking when they're struggling to heat their homes and put food on the table don't they. |
The vast majority of the most in need pensioners kept their allowance - a big chunk of those who didn't really need it lost it (my F.I.L was, unbeknown to me using it to save for his next car before he lost it).
Yes some people on the fringes have lost out and that's unfortunate/unfair but given the hysteria whipped up by certain sections of the media and parroted by some of the hard-of thinking you'd have thought every pensioner had been robbed at knifepoint.
Far more pensioners were negatively impacted by the high inflation and energy costs souring because of the previous Tory government (both directly and indirectly) but for some reason those so concerned about them now didn't really bring it up then for some strange reason? | | | |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 09:44 - Feb 4 with 1354 views | lowhouseblue |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 06:59 - Feb 4 by noggin |
I heard that in a recent poll, a quarter of young adults would prefer a dictator over the current system of accountability. That is actually shocking. |
it was actually a half. but it was the dodgiest poll imaginable and was inconsistent with more serious polling data. channel 4 was attempting to make the point that the young rely less on traditional media ( eg channel 4) and therefore they are becoming very politically dangerous. now why exactly would channel 4 push that line? |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 09:45 - Feb 4 with 1356 views | blueasfook |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 09:39 - Feb 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Pensioners struggling to heat their homes and put food on the table won't be having their Winter Fuel Payment stopped. You've fallen for the right-wing media narrative. |
Not so. Many who had the WFA taken away were just above the threshold so losing that money would definitely have caused them some financial hardship. It says everything you need to know about this govt when they're happy to go after a section of society who've worked hard and contributed to this country their whole lives and just want to enjoy whatever of their lives they have left. But no, Labour want them to spend their final years shivering and hungry. | |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 09:52 - Feb 4 with 1320 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 09:45 - Feb 4 by blueasfook |
Not so. Many who had the WFA taken away were just above the threshold so losing that money would definitely have caused them some financial hardship. It says everything you need to know about this govt when they're happy to go after a section of society who've worked hard and contributed to this country their whole lives and just want to enjoy whatever of their lives they have left. But no, Labour want them to spend their final years shivering and hungry. |
There will be a few, obviously, such is the nature of thresholds. But most who have lost it shouldn't have been getting it in the first place. I include my parents in that. Dad moaned about it... but I know full well they don't need a £200/£300 handout from the govt. each year (and the irony is he moans about people on benefits!)
Saying, "Labour want them to spend their final years shivering and hungry" is just the usual childish nonsense. | |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:00 - Feb 4 with 1267 views | BlueBadger |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 08:12 - Feb 4 by MattinLondon |
To be fair it’s not 52% of the total population but rather 52% who voted in the 2016 referendum. |
Ah now, any day now they'll find out what they won. Probably the day after all the wealth trickles down. |  |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:03 - Feb 4 with 1251 views | OldFart71 |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 08:03 - Feb 4 by tcblue |
Make pensioners do this too, earn a winter allowance |
I think your comment just highlights the disdain that pensioners are held in by some in this Country who if they had their way pensioners would be culled because again by some they are seen as no better than those who claim benefits when perfectly capable of working. A majority of pensioners paid into the system via N.I. and in a lot of cases either paid more on top into another pension fund or as with myself worked until I was 71. My qualifying years for a full State pension was 44 years, now 35 and I don't even get the new SP. Just as many struggle today I struggled to bring up a family on a low wage. When I got a mortgage in my early thirties I worked a 72 hour week for months on end. I then got a divorce at 41 and basically had to start again with another mortgage as like now the price of the new house was over double the amount I got for the first house and of course after the divorce settlement I only got half of that. So believe it or not all pensioners ain't rolling in it and if they are deemed to be better off it's because of a lifetime of work. | | | |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:07 - Feb 4 with 1231 views | GlasgowBlue |
Just as well that running the country in a serious manner isn't a popularity contest then. |  |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:12 - Feb 4 with 1201 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 09:39 - Feb 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Pensioners struggling to heat their homes and put food on the table won't be having their Winter Fuel Payment stopped. You've fallen for the right-wing media narrative. |
Have to disagree- that’s not the experience of my grandparents who are working class as they come. Largely always self employed so no comfortable private pension. They have been most definitely having to watch the heating.
This blind support for every policy is daft. How can any left leaning person feel this is a policy that improves people’s lives. Yes the previous governments were sh1te, but gutting vital funding for the elderly and vulnerable is no different from austerity in my opinion. | | | |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:15 - Feb 4 with 1173 views | NedPlimpton |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:07 - Feb 4 by GlasgowBlue |
Just as well that running the country in a serious manner isn't a popularity contest then. |
Indeed
Also I feel like the OP should have some community notes added for clarity
- The poll only goes back over the last 40 years, so since Thatcher
- The poll is based on ratings after the first 5 months in Govt
- Liz Truss didn't make it to 5 months
- This isn't new news, it actually came put mid December and was widely covered by places like GB News, The Express etc
- The same polling also showed that people would prefer Starmer to Farage or Badenoch
Link here https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/despite-low-approval-ratings-public-prefers-starmer- |  | | |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:16 - Feb 4 with 1167 views | blueasfook |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 09:52 - Feb 4 by The_Flashing_Smile |
There will be a few, obviously, such is the nature of thresholds. But most who have lost it shouldn't have been getting it in the first place. I include my parents in that. Dad moaned about it... but I know full well they don't need a £200/£300 handout from the govt. each year (and the irony is he moans about people on benefits!)
Saying, "Labour want them to spend their final years shivering and hungry" is just the usual childish nonsense. |
Childish nonsense or the harsh reality for some? You decide. | |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:18 - Feb 4 with 1146 views | blueasfook |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:03 - Feb 4 by OldFart71 |
I think your comment just highlights the disdain that pensioners are held in by some in this Country who if they had their way pensioners would be culled because again by some they are seen as no better than those who claim benefits when perfectly capable of working. A majority of pensioners paid into the system via N.I. and in a lot of cases either paid more on top into another pension fund or as with myself worked until I was 71. My qualifying years for a full State pension was 44 years, now 35 and I don't even get the new SP. Just as many struggle today I struggled to bring up a family on a low wage. When I got a mortgage in my early thirties I worked a 72 hour week for months on end. I then got a divorce at 41 and basically had to start again with another mortgage as like now the price of the new house was over double the amount I got for the first house and of course after the divorce settlement I only got half of that. So believe it or not all pensioners ain't rolling in it and if they are deemed to be better off it's because of a lifetime of work. |
I think it's because pensioners are seen as mostly voting for Brexit so they're fair game for some punishment. | |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:21 - Feb 4 with 1105 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:12 - Feb 4 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Have to disagree- that’s not the experience of my grandparents who are working class as they come. Largely always self employed so no comfortable private pension. They have been most definitely having to watch the heating.
This blind support for every policy is daft. How can any left leaning person feel this is a policy that improves people’s lives. Yes the previous governments were sh1te, but gutting vital funding for the elderly and vulnerable is no different from austerity in my opinion. |
You're basing this on the small sample size of your grandparents?!
Everyone has to tighten their belts if we want to fix the economy, infrastructure, transport etc. that the last lot decimated. No-one's "gutting vital funding for the elderly and vulnerable" - this, again, is falling for the right-wing rhetoric. It's removing what wasn't necessary for the vast majority who have lost it, to be better spent elsewhere.
There will be some placed in a vulnerable position whatever you do, but you have to do what's best for the majority. | |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:22 - Feb 4 with 1095 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:03 - Feb 4 by OldFart71 |
I think your comment just highlights the disdain that pensioners are held in by some in this Country who if they had their way pensioners would be culled because again by some they are seen as no better than those who claim benefits when perfectly capable of working. A majority of pensioners paid into the system via N.I. and in a lot of cases either paid more on top into another pension fund or as with myself worked until I was 71. My qualifying years for a full State pension was 44 years, now 35 and I don't even get the new SP. Just as many struggle today I struggled to bring up a family on a low wage. When I got a mortgage in my early thirties I worked a 72 hour week for months on end. I then got a divorce at 41 and basically had to start again with another mortgage as like now the price of the new house was over double the amount I got for the first house and of course after the divorce settlement I only got half of that. So believe it or not all pensioners ain't rolling in it and if they are deemed to be better off it's because of a lifetime of work. |
His comment was clearly a joke. | |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:23 - Feb 4 with 1082 views | PassionNotAnger |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:18 - Feb 4 by blueasfook |
I think it's because pensioners are seen as mostly voting for Brexit so they're fair game for some punishment. |
Statistically they overwhelmingly DID vote for Brexit - by far the highest demographic which did unfortunately. - That of course shouldn't mean they are "punished" for that but to you use the phrase "seen as" which implies that may not be the case - it was [Post edited 4 Feb 10:31]
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:23 - Feb 4 with 1079 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 08:53 - Feb 4 by DJR |
I just heard Farage interviewed on the Today Programme and offering no answers to our problems when pressed as to what he would do.
It's easy to sit on the side lines and carp. |
It worked for Starmer. |  |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:27 - Feb 4 with 1052 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:23 - Feb 4 by PassionNotAnger |
Statistically they overwhelmingly DID vote for Brexit - by far the highest demographic which did unfortunately. - That of course shouldn't mean they are "punished" for that but to you use the phrase "seen as" which implies that may not be the case - it was [Post edited 4 Feb 10:31]
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Indeed. And no-one's punishing them for voting Brexit anyway. The Winter Fuel Payment was unnecessary for most and the money better spent elsewhere. It's as simple as that, nothing to do with punishments. | |
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| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:28 - Feb 4 with 1024 views | BlueNomad |
Well as Tory and Reform voters were always going to hold that view it’s not really surprising is it! Starmer is trying to sort out fourteen disastrous years and has had seven months. |  | | |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:28 - Feb 4 with 1020 views | giant_stow |
| Kier Starmer is now the on 10:23 - Feb 4 by PassionNotAnger |
Statistically they overwhelmingly DID vote for Brexit - by far the highest demographic which did unfortunately. - That of course shouldn't mean they are "punished" for that but to you use the phrase "seen as" which implies that may not be the case - it was [Post edited 4 Feb 10:31]
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Its also not just pensioners living with the consequences of Brexit, so if anyone's getting 'punished' its all of us, including those who voted the other way (thanks guys). |  |
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