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Kier Starmer is now the 00:39 - Feb 4 with 20846 viewsonceablue

Most unpopular Prime MInister ever it’s official

Crikey that takes some doing!!!!!
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Haven't you noticed that.... on 19:22 - Feb 4 with 2177 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Haven't you noticed that.... on 18:32 - Feb 4 by DJR

You're OK in my view because I think you live in South Norwood, next to Thornton Heath, both of which I lived in, as did Stormzy.

[Post edited 4 Feb 18:34]


I'm not quite there but only a short bus ride away. Nearer to the Cry Pal triangle.
But yeah Steve Reed's our MP.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 19:40 - Feb 4 with 2119 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 19:19 - Feb 4 by GlasgowBlue

Edit. Probably unnecessary in hindsight and didn't read as affectionate and humorous as intended..
[Post edited 4 Feb 19:25]


Damn, didn't get chance to reply.

Most of it was nonsense you've got wrong, deliberately or otherwise.

I never offered to black up... my boss, who was black, suggested I black up and go in his place.

Not sure why you felt the need to come steaming into this thread to take the piss though, you weren't even involved.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Kier Starmer is now the on 19:42 - Feb 4 with 2086 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Kier Starmer is now the on 13:04 - Feb 4 by itfc_statman

It's so tribal it's impossible to discuss sensibly. This labour government and Prime Minister are shockingly bad examples of a labour govt but because they're labour, the same people will defend them to the hilt. Just as the same people defended the last conservative govt.


Yup Labour definitely aren't conservatives.....no, no, no.

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It's being reported by.... on 19:47 - Feb 4 with 2059 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

It's being reported by.... on 14:41 - Feb 4 by Bloots

...most of the news outlets.

Other than The Guardian.

Obviously.


.....look mate, some of us are still trying to get over Saturday. Wind it in would yer.

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Kier Starmer is now the on 19:52 - Feb 4 with 2036 viewsSwansea_Blue

Kier Starmer is now the on 19:42 - Feb 4 by BanksterDebtSlave

Yup Labour definitely aren't conservatives.....no, no, no.


That’s more important than a popularity pissing contest. Do they have the vision and ideas to make a positive difference to people in this country. The Tories didn’t and it doesn’t look like this version of Labour does either.

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Haven't you noticed that.... on 22:10 - Feb 4 with 1834 viewsDJR

Haven't you noticed that.... on 19:22 - Feb 4 by The_Flashing_Smile

I'm not quite there but only a short bus ride away. Nearer to the Cry Pal triangle.
But yeah Steve Reed's our MP.


I was a member of Croydon North West Labour party in the 1980s. It roughly coincides with the current Croydon North but in those days was Tory.

The candidate in 1987 was Malcolm Wicks who eventually won the seat in 1992, and later became a minister.

I remember one day, when canvassing for him, speaking to a resident who thought our leaflet (with the name Wicks prominent) and campaign was about the nearby Wickes DIY store.
[Post edited 4 Feb 22:19]
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Haven't you noticed that.... on 00:13 - Feb 5 with 1730 viewsreusersfreekicks

Haven't you noticed that.... on 22:10 - Feb 4 by DJR

I was a member of Croydon North West Labour party in the 1980s. It roughly coincides with the current Croydon North but in those days was Tory.

The candidate in 1987 was Malcolm Wicks who eventually won the seat in 1992, and later became a minister.

I remember one day, when canvassing for him, speaking to a resident who thought our leaflet (with the name Wicks prominent) and campaign was about the nearby Wickes DIY store.
[Post edited 4 Feb 22:19]


I helped canvass for him too as was based in Croydon North East held by the then speaker. Gave him a lift I think. Very nice bloke
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Haven't you noticed that.... on 04:58 - Feb 5 with 1659 viewsBenters

Haven't you noticed that.... on 17:55 - Feb 4 by Bloots

....every single thread that runs into a number of pages has always got old Dollers all over it!?

He's never had the ability to drop an argument, he's been like it for years.

He could quite easily let it go, but he never does.

Frankly he loves the attention and gives as good as he gets!


This and regarding the Bangers and Mash and The Sausage Incider I thought it was a bit of light hearted banter between me and Dolly.

For the record it does sound rather nice what Dolly and his good lady had for lunch,I had similar when I was last in Cologne.
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Haven't you noticed that.... on 07:59 - Feb 5 with 1575 viewsLibero

Haven't you noticed that.... on 17:55 - Feb 4 by Bloots

....every single thread that runs into a number of pages has always got old Dollers all over it!?

He's never had the ability to drop an argument, he's been like it for years.

He could quite easily let it go, but he never does.

Frankly he loves the attention and gives as good as he gets!


It's true, I contributed something to this thread when it was 3 pages, came back later that evening to find what I'd contributed had been widely eclipsed and it was 8 pages of him fighting the hoard.

Some things/people never change.
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Kier Starmer is now the on 08:12 - Feb 5 with 1548 viewsLeaky

Kier Starmer is now the on 17:06 - Feb 4 by positivity

you're a very odd bloke, what a thing to obsess over!


To be fair he has a point. A good many Socialists I know shop at Wiatrose, drink in posh wine bars, whilst sneering at people shopping at Tesco, and drinking in Spoons.
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Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... (n/t) on 08:26 - Feb 5 with 1513 viewsGlasgowBlue

Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 19:40 - Feb 4 by The_Flashing_Smile

Damn, didn't get chance to reply.

Most of it was nonsense you've got wrong, deliberately or otherwise.

I never offered to black up... my boss, who was black, suggested I black up and go in his place.

Not sure why you felt the need to come steaming into this thread to take the piss though, you weren't even involved.


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Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 08:30 - Feb 5 with 1486 viewsLibero

Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... (n/t) on 08:26 - Feb 5 by GlasgowBlue

[Post edited 5 Feb 10:19]


You've just guaranteed a 15 pager...
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Haven't you noticed that.... on 08:32 - Feb 5 with 1478 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Haven't you noticed that.... on 07:59 - Feb 5 by Libero

It's true, I contributed something to this thread when it was 3 pages, came back later that evening to find what I'd contributed had been widely eclipsed and it was 8 pages of him fighting the hoard.

Some things/people never change.
[Post edited 5 Feb 8:02]


It's been a debate, and largely a good natured one. In what way have I been "fighting the hoard"?

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Haven't you noticed that.... on 08:32 - Feb 5 with 1475 viewsDJR

Haven't you noticed that.... on 00:13 - Feb 5 by reusersfreekicks

I helped canvass for him too as was based in Croydon North East held by the then speaker. Gave him a lift I think. Very nice bloke
[Post edited 5 Feb 0:14]


Yes, he was a nice bloke, and I remember during the 1987 election visiting the Labour office in South Norwood (in your constituency) as part of the campaign because they were helping out.
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Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 08:32 - Feb 5 with 1477 viewsPinewoodblue

Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 08:30 - Feb 5 by Libero

You've just guaranteed a 15 pager...


Would be better locked as it has travelled a long way from the original post.

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Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 08:34 - Feb 5 with 1461 viewsLibero

Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 08:32 - Feb 5 by Pinewoodblue

Would be better locked as it has travelled a long way from the original post.


Agreed, these only ever go one way.
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Kier Starmer is now the on 09:06 - Feb 5 with 1399 viewsMattinLondon

Kier Starmer is now the on 08:12 - Feb 5 by Leaky

To be fair he has a point. A good many Socialists I know shop at Wiatrose, drink in posh wine bars, whilst sneering at people shopping at Tesco, and drinking in Spoons.


Of course they do.
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Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 09:22 - Feb 5 with 1354 viewsPassionNotAnger

Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... (n/t) on 08:26 - Feb 5 by GlasgowBlue

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With respect and in all honesty that doesn't read at all "with genuine affection" but quite passive aggressive.

Was telling that a Blueas debate, in came Benters, then Bloots and now you - perhaps coincidence but that does look entirely like a pile-on.

Said with no skin in the game at all - just an observation as least 3 people have played the man rather than a post or even the original topic.
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Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 09:32 - Feb 5 with 1339 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... (n/t) on 08:26 - Feb 5 by GlasgowBlue

[Post edited 5 Feb 10:19]


Right, here we go again.

Absolutely no need to bring all this up again, particularly after you realised it was unnecessary and deleted it when you first posted it. I also pointed out you weren't involved in this thread, or even mentioned, so why you felt the need to come in with this unprovoked, largely made-up nonsense again, after sleeping on it, is beyond me.

I've explained the "black up" thing as that stuck in my mind from the erroneous way you reported it originally - and now you've repeated your lie, so I can only assume it's vindictive rather than a mistake. This is a very serious allegation as it's basically calling me a casual racist . To repeat I did not offer to black up ...my boss, who is black, suggested I black up to take his place in a meeting he didn't want to attend. That's why it was funny (also he has dreadlocks, we look nothing alike). It would not be funny if I said it. It would be racist. Who are these people who remember it your way? I don't see anyone else in the thread mentioning it (at time of writing) so either you've had chats by private DM (very weird) or you're making them up.

“Where can I buy a suit”? - the actual story was where can I buy a cheap suit? Bespoke suits are obviously quite expensive so I was looking for somewhere they'd be half decent but much more affordable. A reasonable request I thought and not too dissimilar to many asks of the hive mind on here over the years. Quite a few people gave some decent suggestions as I recall... I think one suggested a supermarket who's suits were surprisingly good for the price.

Yes, I was hoodwinked into believing polling station opening could be extended. I admitted at the time I fell for that one. There are lots of things that get extended due to demand, such as comedians or musicians adding extra dates, so not too mad a suggestion I thought.

Yes I used to be a fan of Russell Brand, literally years ago. I was also a fan of Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris back in the day. You were also a Tory Party Member but we're apparently not allowed to call you a Tory anymore, yet I still have to carry the burden of I used to like a comedian.

"Potatoes are part of your 5 a day" - is another one you've got completely the wrong way round. I argued they're NOT part of your five a day, because they're not.

“Is the sun sentient”? - was a jokey post at the time, quite clearly. This was before I'd heard about panpsychism, which is a theory that everything - every atom - could have, in a very basic sense, a form of consciousness. So not so mad a thought after all. But it was a deliberately jokey post to spark debate initially.

The “w*g Box” story you've tweaked here from your original post of last night and is another one you've got subtly wrong to make it look worse. You said I said it with no clue about what I'd said. The actual story is that it was known as that when I was a child and I had no idea what it meant or that it was offensive. About 40 years later - while on placement, so not hired - I'm describing the idea for a TV script set in the 80s to my black creative director, when I called it what I had when I was a child. And suddenly and immediately realised what it meant. He laughed it off, ribbed me about it for ages... and subsequently hired me. I was at that company for a further 6 years.

What bemuses me about this story being used as a stick to beat me with is that I volunteered all this information on here myself as an example of an embarrassing tale. So how on earth you think this is a "gotcha" moment I don't know. I gave you all the info.

Saying I "could have an argument in a phone box... until everyone else has been battered into submission" would be a bit more palatable if it weren't coming from you. The absolute hypocrisy of it. Anyone who's been on here for any length of time will have seen you do exactly that, especially on political threads, for years. Unbelievable lack of self awareness.

Then you have the nerve to say all these lies, misquotes and just muddled wrongness - some of which making serious racism allegations - by adding a cheeky "All said with genuine affection".

You were wrong to say this last night.
I can't believe you woke up this morning - obviously having copied and pasted it somewhere before deleting - and then posted it all again. Utterly unprovoked TWICE!

Libs and Bloots have been proved right of course, I couldn't let it go and have had to waste my time correcting all your mistakes, when really I should have walked away. Maybe I am a bit too sensitive. I certainly am at the moment as my dad is dying, so I have to bare in mind that's probably skewing my responses, but I couldn't just leave all these falsehoods unchecked.

You are a nasty piece of work, and a particularly odd one given you've been holding onto a lot of this stuff for literally decades. I'm not one who calls for people to be banned, and I haven't complained to Phil about anything for years, despite what some might think, but the people who have been banned recently have done far less, to my mind.

I'll be posting less now, if at all, because I need to be around supportive people right now, which this place certainly isn't.

You might want to reflect on what's wrong with yourself that you feel the need to be such a c-nut to someone you don't really know.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 09:37 - Feb 5 with 1279 viewsStokieBlue

Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 09:22 - Feb 5 by PassionNotAnger

With respect and in all honesty that doesn't read at all "with genuine affection" but quite passive aggressive.

Was telling that a Blueas debate, in came Benters, then Bloots and now you - perhaps coincidence but that does look entirely like a pile-on.

Said with no skin in the game at all - just an observation as least 3 people have played the man rather than a post or even the original topic.


It happens all the time, it's a clear pattern of behaviour with these pile ons and once again they have succeeded and dolly says he's got to stop posting.

Nothing ever changes.

SB
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Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 09:42 - Feb 5 with 1234 viewsPassionNotAnger

Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 09:37 - Feb 5 by StokieBlue

It happens all the time, it's a clear pattern of behaviour with these pile ons and once again they have succeeded and dolly says he's got to stop posting.

Nothing ever changes.

SB


Its unfair, and pretty obvious, other posters seem to get sanctioned/warned or even banned for what, on the face of it at least, feels more innocuous.
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Kier Starmer is now the on 09:43 - Feb 5 with 1232 viewsleitrimblue

Kier Starmer is now the on 08:12 - Feb 5 by Leaky

To be fair he has a point. A good many Socialists I know shop at Wiatrose, drink in posh wine bars, whilst sneering at people shopping at Tesco, and drinking in Spoons.


I'm a weed and Guinness socialist. Mosta my friends and family absolutely love Spoons
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Haven't you noticed that.... on 09:48 - Feb 5 with 1211 viewsleitrimblue

Haven't you noticed that.... on 07:59 - Feb 5 by Libero

It's true, I contributed something to this thread when it was 3 pages, came back later that evening to find what I'd contributed had been widely eclipsed and it was 8 pages of him fighting the hoard.

Some things/people never change.
[Post edited 5 Feb 8:02]


I was discussing this subject on here with Flash/Dolly yesterday. Was quite pleasant, no sniping, no insults, no hints at racism. Absolutely nothing bad to report. Sorry
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Kier Starmer is now the on 09:49 - Feb 5 with 1203 viewsBlueschev

Kier Starmer is now the on 08:12 - Feb 5 by Leaky

To be fair he has a point. A good many Socialists I know shop at Wiatrose, drink in posh wine bars, whilst sneering at people shopping at Tesco, and drinking in Spoons.


I go to Waitrose for my bits, but nobody does their whole shop there, no matter how much Bolly they glug whilst reading the Das Kapital.
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Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 09:52 - Feb 5 with 1184 viewsRyorry

Yeah, maybe some poetic licence.... on 09:37 - Feb 5 by StokieBlue

It happens all the time, it's a clear pattern of behaviour with these pile ons and once again they have succeeded and dolly says he's got to stop posting.

Nothing ever changes.

SB


Sadly, those complaining about “pile-ons” have sometimes been “participants” in such things (in so far as they exist rather than just being a number of individuals with the same viewpoint) themselves.

This place can be lovely, but there’s often hypocrisy - sometimes unwitting, people aren’t aware or don’t remember (general point not aimed at you or specific individuals).

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