| Like any business that is failing 08:35 - Feb 27 with 10684 views | muccletonjoe |
The Americans at gamechanger will not continue to bankroll a team that is failing.
Revenue will take a hit next year along with the clubs profile. It is pretty obvious they will be looking at McKenna , even though he has been the main reason behind our success to date.
I can't see too many bigger clubs knocking at the door like last summer, the questions will be asked about recruitment and the tactics employed. While it would have been a remarkable feat to stay in Premier league, if our form continues in the championship, things need to change pretty quickly. We know the fall can be quicker than the rise in football. |  | | |  |
| Like any business that is failing on 09:51 - Feb 27 with 2097 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Like any business that is failing on 09:40 - Feb 27 by muccletonjoe |
I think you will find that money has been taken out of the pot already. They are not buying a training facility and then finding the money for it. |
The truth is you/ we have absolutely no idea how they are funding the new training ground. However, you can rely on the words of the people running the club...
MA in March - “We’re fantastically supported, we have an ownership group that don’t take a single penny or a single dollar out of this football club. Every penny that they put into this football club takes us forward" - https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/24209255.ipswich-town-ceo-mark-ashton-fresh-invesme
Ed Shwartz in July of last year he said the following ..
“I would say the timeframe hasn’t really changed," he says. "As I sit here today, we’ve got a trajectory of another 5-7 years where, at that point, we would re-evaluate and see where things stand. There’s no discussions or no intentions of selling in any way." - https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/24399983.ipswich-town-owner-ed-schwartz-no-plans-se
I'm afraid you are talking complete nonsense. [Post edited 27 Feb 9:51]
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| Like any business that is failing on 09:56 - Feb 27 with 2059 views | Libero |
I look forward to months of similarly shallow and reactionary posts, claiming the club is "failing" when in reality we're the best run that we've ever been in the modern era and are still very clearly on an upward trajectory despite the somewhat disappointing season in the Premier League. |  | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 10:29 - Feb 27 with 2010 views | Guthrum |
| Like any business that is failing on 08:59 - Feb 27 by mistert |
I don't t think it's at all fair to say we're falling in a business sense. I don't believe we'll be saddled with an unmanageable wage bill if we go down. We've obviously increased the wage bill but surely it's still tiny by premier league standards? People look at the headline transfer fees but ignore the spend on wages, which is where you can really do yourself harm. It's way too early to say the model isn't working for us, you could actually say we've been very sensible but only time will tell. |
Not to mention that all the contracts will have relegation clauses relating to wages (I very much doubt Ashton is stupid enough not to have included such a standard provision). |  |
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| Like any business that is failing on 10:32 - Feb 27 with 2008 views | NthQldITFC |
| Like any business that is failing on 08:57 - Feb 27 by artsbossbeard |
Crivens.
Fans of their own sanity beware.
This place is best avoided today. |
I've emailed Gav to request a couple of new forum features:
1. A massive fanny filter
2. A budgie troll filter
I've suggested that there's a fair bit of requirement overlap, so a common framework class for the two would make sense. |  |
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| Like any business that is failing on 10:39 - Feb 27 with 1964 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Like any business that is failing on 08:43 - Feb 27 by muccletonjoe |
Really ? How much of this seasons outlay will they want to recoup ? They are not a charity |
The outlay that came from TV money rather than their pockets…. | |
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| Like any business that is failing on 11:00 - Feb 27 with 1914 views | Hipsterectomy |
We’re filthy rich after this season and will continue to be for the next 3 or 4 seasons even if we go down. Not even counting their wealth and ability to spend it
Hardly failing |  |
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| Like any business that is failing on 11:03 - Feb 27 with 1900 views | muccletonjoe |
| Like any business that is failing on 09:51 - Feb 27 by Bellevue_Blue |
The truth is you/ we have absolutely no idea how they are funding the new training ground. However, you can rely on the words of the people running the club...
MA in March - “We’re fantastically supported, we have an ownership group that don’t take a single penny or a single dollar out of this football club. Every penny that they put into this football club takes us forward" - https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/24209255.ipswich-town-ceo-mark-ashton-fresh-invesme
Ed Shwartz in July of last year he said the following ..
“I would say the timeframe hasn’t really changed," he says. "As I sit here today, we’ve got a trajectory of another 5-7 years where, at that point, we would re-evaluate and see where things stand. There’s no discussions or no intentions of selling in any way." - https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/24399983.ipswich-town-owner-ed-schwartz-no-plans-se
I'm afraid you are talking complete nonsense. [Post edited 27 Feb 9:51]
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" we have every confidence in our manager"
How many times have you seen that a week before he is sacked. Take the bluster with a pinch. | | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 11:05 - Feb 27 with 1887 views | Herbivore |
| Like any business that is failing on 11:03 - Feb 27 by muccletonjoe |
" we have every confidence in our manager"
How many times have you seen that a week before he is sacked. Take the bluster with a pinch. |
There is no chance McKenna is getting sacked. |  |
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| Like any business that is failing on 11:19 - Feb 27 with 1851 views | ibbleobble |
| Like any business that is failing on 08:42 - Feb 27 by positivity |
they had a long term business plan which involved us getting up to the championship, then steadily building us into an established prem team.
they never expected it to happen in 2 years, they'll see it as part of the process, it may take more promotions and relegations to establish us |
I suspect this is right. When i look at the transfer policy and some of the systems KM is employing, i feel like there was a real conversation about us being a Yo-Yo club for a while as part of the strategy to build experience and balance the finances.
Everyone had their eyes wide open to the task ahead in May last year and there would absolutely have been mitigation plans in place with all the contractual agreements. | | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 11:37 - Feb 27 with 1820 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Like any business that is failing on 11:03 - Feb 27 by muccletonjoe |
" we have every confidence in our manager"
How many times have you seen that a week before he is sacked. Take the bluster with a pinch. |
You're posts since the OP are suggesting the due the business 'failing' the owners will now be looking to recoup money from the club which as I have demonstrated is likely a total lie and not how sensible people seek to extract money out of investments like football clubs.
You can either choose to take the people that run the football club at their word or you can choose to spout completely negative speculative nonsense.
For 4 years they have consistently shown to be men of their word and they have continually delivered on promises. | | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 11:44 - Feb 27 with 1796 views | Bobbychase |
They bought a football club that was worth a small amount, and it is now worth a much larger amount.
Are you aware how business works? |  |
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| Like any business that is failing on 11:45 - Feb 27 with 1792 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
This can only be written by someone who doesn't follow, or get, the project Gamechanger has bought into. Their business plan didn't have us in the EPL this season, and a good business doesn't get bent out of shape due to an unexpected blip (up or down).
Unlike some of our fans, the owners and management are not snowflakes... | | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 11:59 - Feb 27 with 1742 views | bluelady |
Ridiculous post! |  | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 12:49 - Feb 27 with 1669 views | dirtyboy |
| Like any business that is failing on 11:45 - Feb 27 by SuffolkPunchFC |
This can only be written by someone who doesn't follow, or get, the project Gamechanger has bought into. Their business plan didn't have us in the EPL this season, and a good business doesn't get bent out of shape due to an unexpected blip (up or down).
Unlike some of our fans, the owners and management are not snowflakes... |
They don't follow or get a lot more than just the GC project. |  | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 13:59 - Feb 27 with 1611 views | nrb1985 |
Lolololololololol
There has been some serious competition of late but this is up there with the most embarrassing posts I’ve seen on here.
“The Americans” paid f all for the club and it’s now worth 200-400m depending on what division we’ll be in next year.
I’m sure the pension fund members and the investors of the private equity fund will be delighted to learn they’re going to pull funding at any minute and let their investment go to zero because we’ve had a poor six months. | | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 14:32 - Feb 27 with 1558 views | Bluedandy |
We have the sixth richest owners in English football, they're in it for the long-term.
That's why they are bankrolling the £30 million redevelopment of Playford Road and moving the academy to category one status.
This is happening irrespective of which division we find ourselves in next season.
And no-one is saying that KM is granted indefinite immunity from the laws of football management.
If he stays (more likely than not on balance) we all know what happens should Town be midtable in the Championship next January.
Burley's miraculous two seasons in 2000 and 2001 did not save him and the same applies to KM.
The bottom line is that we weren't anywhere near ready (on and off the pitch) after our hurricane ascent from League 1 to the Premier League.
Next time, we will be much better prepared, and that's because the ownership model is radically different from anything that we've had before.
Our fate as a football club is no longer based on having a miracle worker in the dugout. | | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 15:33 - Feb 27 with 1517 views | tractordownsouth |
| Like any business that is failing on 08:41 - Feb 27 by muccletonjoe |
"If" our form continues in the championship. It's not a given we will be in top 6 . Look at Luton. None of us know who will be here next season. Could be a case of starting again. |
Luton recruited in a completely different way to us. Burnley and Sheffield United were equally horrendous in the Premier League and they're both in the hunt for automatic promotion. |  |
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| Like any business that is failing on 19:51 - Feb 27 with 1434 views | muccletonjoe |
| Like any business that is failing on 13:59 - Feb 27 by nrb1985 |
Lolololololololol
There has been some serious competition of late but this is up there with the most embarrassing posts I’ve seen on here.
“The Americans” paid f all for the club and it’s now worth 200-400m depending on what division we’ll be in next year.
I’m sure the pension fund members and the investors of the private equity fund will be delighted to learn they’re going to pull funding at any minute and let their investment go to zero because we’ve had a poor six months. |
200 - 400 million. We don't even own the ground , where does that figure come from ?
We don't make a profit, we certainly won't this year.
Since when has this club picked up all these dead brains ? | | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 20:01 - Feb 27 with 1419 views | Rozz |
| Like any business that is failing on 19:51 - Feb 27 by muccletonjoe |
200 - 400 million. We don't even own the ground , where does that figure come from ?
We don't make a profit, we certainly won't this year.
Since when has this club picked up all these dead brains ? |
A 40% ownership stake was sold around this time last year for £105 million, valuing the club at £262.5 million.
We've been promoted since then, in case you missed it. |  | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 20:05 - Feb 27 with 1408 views | MattinLondon |
I find your post to be a tad baffling.
You concede that it ‘would have been a remarkable feat to stay in Premier league’ but you also state that ‘ gamechanger will not continue to bankroll a team that is failing’.
Bit of a contradiction there don’t you think? If staying up was almost nailed on then yes, the team would be failing. But by using the word ‘remarkable’ you suggests that the team wouldn’t have failed by not staying up. Which is it?
The championship is a much lower standard of football and slower as well. What with a summer break, new players etc this season would be a distinct memory.
I do think that there will be a review of the season and lessons will be learnt but KM is a young manager and will learn from recruitment mistakes and take it from there. |  | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 20:12 - Feb 27 with 1389 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Like any business that is failing on 19:51 - Feb 27 by muccletonjoe |
200 - 400 million. We don't even own the ground , where does that figure come from ?
We don't make a profit, we certainly won't this year.
Since when has this club picked up all these dead brains ? |
Dunno, you tell us... |  |
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| Like any business that is failing on 20:22 - Feb 27 with 1357 views | muccletonjoe |
| Like any business that is failing on 20:12 - Feb 27 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Dunno, you tell us... |
Exactly | | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 20:46 - Feb 27 with 1330 views | nrb1985 |
| Like any business that is failing on 19:51 - Feb 27 by muccletonjoe |
200 - 400 million. We don't even own the ground , where does that figure come from ?
We don't make a profit, we certainly won't this year.
Since when has this club picked up all these dead brains ? |
Companies are valued as a multiple of revenue “dead brain”.
And it was quite obvious from the bright path deal what that multiple was if we were promoted, at ~2.5 x earnings.
Gosh, I hate having my evening evenings interrupted by dead brains. [Post edited 27 Feb 20:46]
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| Like any business that is failing on 20:51 - Feb 27 with 1307 views | muccletonjoe |
| Like any business that is failing on 20:46 - Feb 27 by nrb1985 |
Companies are valued as a multiple of revenue “dead brain”.
And it was quite obvious from the bright path deal what that multiple was if we were promoted, at ~2.5 x earnings.
Gosh, I hate having my evening evenings interrupted by dead brains. [Post edited 27 Feb 20:46]
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Total rubbish.
So in that case we could be losing a billion a year and still be valued at two and half times the earnings, even if it was a fraction of the losses and we were totally insolvent.
You should work on stock exchange son. Lol | | | |
| Like any business that is failing on 20:54 - Feb 27 with 1290 views | weepingx2018 |
| Like any business that is failing on 08:41 - Feb 27 by muccletonjoe |
"If" our form continues in the championship. It's not a given we will be in top 6 . Look at Luton. None of us know who will be here next season. Could be a case of starting again. |
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