| Richard Kone 11:03 - Mar 11 with 5346 views | portmanking |
Nugget of info I've received. We're very keen on him. Been watching him like a hawk while keeping taps on Humphreys and even came close to bidding in January. Apparently, it's possible that we sell Al-Hamadi and use those funds to put towards a bid for Kone.
Hirst, Kone and one other would be an athletic front line for the Championship. |  | | |  |
| Richard Kone on 11:04 - Mar 11 with 4381 views | NthQldITFC |
I'm rolling a fat one already! |  |
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| Richard Kone on 11:14 - Mar 11 with 4274 views | itfcjoe |
His rise has been incredible, looks different class each time I see him for Wycombe - if his back story was that he was released by Big 6 academy opposed to playing non-league, he'd already be at a PL club or a parachute one |  |
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| Richard Kone on 11:15 - Mar 11 with 4235 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Would be a very very good signing. Absolute machine. |  |
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| Richard Kone on 11:16 - Mar 11 with 4221 views | Mullet |
| Richard Kone on 11:14 - Mar 11 by itfcjoe |
His rise has been incredible, looks different class each time I see him for Wycombe - if his back story was that he was released by Big 6 academy opposed to playing non-league, he'd already be at a PL club or a parachute one |
Maybe he can be our Vardy? |  |
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| Richard Kone on 11:18 - Mar 11 with 4200 views | JakeITFC |
Heard that in January too - always risky to take a player after one good year at a lower level but does look to have the physical profile more than Al-Hamadi. |  | | |
| Richard Kone on 11:24 - Mar 11 with 4101 views | BseaBlue |
| Richard Kone on 11:14 - Mar 11 by itfcjoe |
His rise has been incredible, looks different class each time I see him for Wycombe - if his back story was that he was released by Big 6 academy opposed to playing non-league, he'd already be at a PL club or a parachute one |
I know a lot of people from the non-league scene that saw him play for Athletic Newham in the Essex Senior league and everyone of them were determined he would make it as a pro! |  | | |
| Richard Kone on 11:26 - Mar 11 with 4065 views | Linners |
If we're really that keen, I wonder whether we've already suggested something to them for the summer. Too much of a risk for all parties in January but might make a lot more sense in the close season... |  | | |
| Richard Kone on 11:26 - Mar 11 with 4050 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
It's interesting to me that we would look to take on a League One striker. While he has been impressive at that level, so was Ladapo, and despite his best efforts, couldn't cut it in the Championship. We are already developing Al-Hamadi for that level, so it would be a bit counterproductive to sell him, just to bring in someone else that will need time to adjust to that level after investing this much effort in Al-Hamadi already.
The reality is that with Delap going, and Hirst having injury issues, we're going to need two players in that area to come in next season alongside Al-Hamadi if we are to compete in the Championship using our preferred system.
We could look at Stansfield again, has Championship experience but scored 20 something goals himself this season in League One. He's still only 22 himself and would probably thrive in our system, assuming McKenna is the boss. |  |
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| Richard Kone on 11:28 - Mar 11 with 4001 views | weepingx2018 |
| Richard Kone on 11:14 - Mar 11 by itfcjoe |
His rise has been incredible, looks different class each time I see him for Wycombe - if his back story was that he was released by Big 6 academy opposed to playing non-league, he'd already be at a PL club or a parachute one |
I saw him last tuesday live - he looks great and i said to my mate i hope we come in for him., | | | |
| Richard Kone on 11:33 - Mar 11 with 3923 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Richard Kone on 11:26 - Mar 11 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
It's interesting to me that we would look to take on a League One striker. While he has been impressive at that level, so was Ladapo, and despite his best efforts, couldn't cut it in the Championship. We are already developing Al-Hamadi for that level, so it would be a bit counterproductive to sell him, just to bring in someone else that will need time to adjust to that level after investing this much effort in Al-Hamadi already.
The reality is that with Delap going, and Hirst having injury issues, we're going to need two players in that area to come in next season alongside Al-Hamadi if we are to compete in the Championship using our preferred system.
We could look at Stansfield again, has Championship experience but scored 20 something goals himself this season in League One. He's still only 22 himself and would probably thrive in our system, assuming McKenna is the boss. |
I mean comparing Kone and Ladapo is completely pointless ? | |
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| Richard Kone on 11:40 - Mar 11 with 3845 views | tonybied |
| Richard Kone on 11:26 - Mar 11 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
It's interesting to me that we would look to take on a League One striker. While he has been impressive at that level, so was Ladapo, and despite his best efforts, couldn't cut it in the Championship. We are already developing Al-Hamadi for that level, so it would be a bit counterproductive to sell him, just to bring in someone else that will need time to adjust to that level after investing this much effort in Al-Hamadi already.
The reality is that with Delap going, and Hirst having injury issues, we're going to need two players in that area to come in next season alongside Al-Hamadi if we are to compete in the Championship using our preferred system.
We could look at Stansfield again, has Championship experience but scored 20 something goals himself this season in League One. He's still only 22 himself and would probably thrive in our system, assuming McKenna is the boss. |
Stansfield? I'm pretty sure Birmingham wouldn't be in the slightest bit interested in selling to us unless we paid bucket loads of cash for him. They signed him for £15M last year, he has been their star player and they have very rich backers. Never going to happen for less than £25-30M, no thanks! |  | | |
| Richard Kone on 11:43 - Mar 11 with 3798 views | SaffronWaldenBlues |
| Richard Kone on 11:33 - Mar 11 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I mean comparing Kone and Ladapo is completely pointless ? |
Kone and Ladpao have similar scoring records in League One, I'm not saying we couldn't develop Kone, but the level is different, and it's a different game in the Championship. For what it's worth, I liked Ladapo, and he did contribute to our promotion this season, but it was clear things were moving beyond him in the Championship, despite being a star player in the division below.
My wider point is that we have worked to develop Ali, who's now doing okay at Stoke, I don't understand why, after investing in him we'd sell him to bring in another player that will need time to adjust to the Championship. Ideally, Ali should be ready. | |
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| Richard Kone on 11:55 - Mar 11 with 3681 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Richard Kone on 11:43 - Mar 11 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
Kone and Ladpao have similar scoring records in League One, I'm not saying we couldn't develop Kone, but the level is different, and it's a different game in the Championship. For what it's worth, I liked Ladapo, and he did contribute to our promotion this season, but it was clear things were moving beyond him in the Championship, despite being a star player in the division below.
My wider point is that we have worked to develop Ali, who's now doing okay at Stoke, I don't understand why, after investing in him we'd sell him to bring in another player that will need time to adjust to the Championship. Ideally, Ali should be ready. |
Good thing Kone is about 9 years younger then Ladapo was and a vastly better all round athlete.
We haven't really worked too much to develop AAH he was with us for half a season really and had injury knocks for the other half. I like AAH and really liked him at Wimbledon but most who have watched both would be in agreement that Kone looks like a better all round player than Ali did (in a league higher). Can always loan Ali out again so he can get a full season of football under his belt and then assess at the end of that season. Or sell him now, we have options there.
Kone be a very good signing though. One I thought we might fancy. | |
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| Richard Kone on 11:56 - Mar 11 with 3665 views | itfc48 |
I think we've seen this year that just being technically strong is often no longer good enough for the modern Premier League - you need the pace and power to go with the technique. We're likely to get beaten to many of the ready made players so are going to have to find some pacey and powerful projects who are not quite there technically yet. | | | |
| Richard Kone on 11:59 - Mar 11 with 3601 views | gsoly |
| Richard Kone on 11:43 - Mar 11 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
Kone and Ladpao have similar scoring records in League One, I'm not saying we couldn't develop Kone, but the level is different, and it's a different game in the Championship. For what it's worth, I liked Ladapo, and he did contribute to our promotion this season, but it was clear things were moving beyond him in the Championship, despite being a star player in the division below.
My wider point is that we have worked to develop Ali, who's now doing okay at Stoke, I don't understand why, after investing in him we'd sell him to bring in another player that will need time to adjust to the Championship. Ideally, Ali should be ready. |
Surprise, you've come into a thread and derailed with weird whataboutism.
There'll be a huge battle for Kone in the summer and if we get him it will be another sign of how far we've come.
In my opinion, the club have decided Ali isn't good enough. He's done *OK* at Stoke but been injured a fair chunk. Sounds as though they were happy to let him leave permanently in Jan so maybe that's a deal Stoke would be keen to revisit in the summer. |  | | |
| Richard Kone on 12:03 - Mar 11 with 3528 views | homer_123 |
| Richard Kone on 11:56 - Mar 11 by itfc48 |
I think we've seen this year that just being technically strong is often no longer good enough for the modern Premier League - you need the pace and power to go with the technique. We're likely to get beaten to many of the ready made players so are going to have to find some pacey and powerful projects who are not quite there technically yet. |
The pool to fish from is limited, in terms of players that meet all of those criteria.
Here, as a Club, is where we need to take gambles. Young players that might have a number of traits needed, not all and we look to develop. |  |
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| Richard Kone on 12:21 - Mar 11 with 3330 views | Sharkey |
| Richard Kone on 11:24 - Mar 11 by BseaBlue |
I know a lot of people from the non-league scene that saw him play for Athletic Newham in the Essex Senior league and everyone of them were determined he would make it as a pro! |
Definitely 'one that got away' for Colchester, as he trained with them in 21-22. At the time his residence permit did not allow him to play pro football, which may explain why Colchester passed on him - though it may have been a simple misjudgement. |  | | |
| Richard Kone on 12:38 - Mar 11 with 3174 views | gsoly |
Speaking of nuggets of info that fall into a similar boat, I was told a deal for Poku from Posh was all done and dusted for January... then he got injured. Unsure if that's one we'd revisit having added Philogene but certainly points to us continuing with a similar transfer model. | | | |
| Richard Kone on 12:41 - Mar 11 with 3087 views | textbackup |
| Richard Kone on 11:26 - Mar 11 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
It's interesting to me that we would look to take on a League One striker. While he has been impressive at that level, so was Ladapo, and despite his best efforts, couldn't cut it in the Championship. We are already developing Al-Hamadi for that level, so it would be a bit counterproductive to sell him, just to bring in someone else that will need time to adjust to that level after investing this much effort in Al-Hamadi already.
The reality is that with Delap going, and Hirst having injury issues, we're going to need two players in that area to come in next season alongside Al-Hamadi if we are to compete in the Championship using our preferred system.
We could look at Stansfield again, has Championship experience but scored 20 something goals himself this season in League One. He's still only 22 himself and would probably thrive in our system, assuming McKenna is the boss. |
Maybe the powers that be within ITFC see this bloke as a far better option than AAH, so will offer him out to Wycombe as part of the deal.
Now we aren’t shopping in the reduced isles we can ultimately pick and chose who we want and don’t want (obviously without being completely naive and wasteful) |  |
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| Richard Kone on 12:42 - Mar 11 with 3078 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Richard Kone on 11:59 - Mar 11 by gsoly |
Surprise, you've come into a thread and derailed with weird whataboutism.
There'll be a huge battle for Kone in the summer and if we get him it will be another sign of how far we've come.
In my opinion, the club have decided Ali isn't good enough. He's done *OK* at Stoke but been injured a fair chunk. Sounds as though they were happy to let him leave permanently in Jan so maybe that's a deal Stoke would be keen to revisit in the summer. |
"Surprise, you've come into a thread and derailed with weird whataboutism"
Best Frimmers 'tribute' act yet. |  |
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| Richard Kone on 12:43 - Mar 11 with 3060 views | portmanking |
| Richard Kone on 12:38 - Mar 11 by gsoly |
Speaking of nuggets of info that fall into a similar boat, I was told a deal for Poku from Posh was all done and dusted for January... then he got injured. Unsure if that's one we'd revisit having added Philogene but certainly points to us continuing with a similar transfer model. |
Pretty sure Poku is out of contract this summer, too? Would be a very good pick-up for a tribunal fee.
RW: Philogene/Poku/Burns/Ogbene
#10: Hutchinson/Szmodics/Chaplin
LW: Clarke/Broadhead
That would be some insane depth at Champ level, allowing us to rotate the 3 #10s after 60 mins every week. | | | |
| Richard Kone on 12:45 - Mar 11 with 3031 views | OldFart71 |
| Richard Kone on 11:26 - Mar 11 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
It's interesting to me that we would look to take on a League One striker. While he has been impressive at that level, so was Ladapo, and despite his best efforts, couldn't cut it in the Championship. We are already developing Al-Hamadi for that level, so it would be a bit counterproductive to sell him, just to bring in someone else that will need time to adjust to that level after investing this much effort in Al-Hamadi already.
The reality is that with Delap going, and Hirst having injury issues, we're going to need two players in that area to come in next season alongside Al-Hamadi if we are to compete in the Championship using our preferred system.
We could look at Stansfield again, has Championship experience but scored 20 something goals himself this season in League One. He's still only 22 himself and would probably thrive in our system, assuming McKenna is the boss. |
I'm unsure that AAH will make it. Certainly not as a Premier player. Some of those that we have such as Hutch have struggled at times and he's far better than AAH. | | | |
| Richard Kone on 12:50 - Mar 11 with 2972 views | Sharkey |
| Richard Kone on 12:38 - Mar 11 by gsoly |
Speaking of nuggets of info that fall into a similar boat, I was told a deal for Poku from Posh was all done and dusted for January... then he got injured. Unsure if that's one we'd revisit having added Philogene but certainly points to us continuing with a similar transfer model. |
Latest links are with Rangers, which would be very bad news for Peterborough (and Colchester, who have a substantial sell-on clause), as Scottish clubs don't have to pay the same level of compensation, so can spend more on the player's salary and the agent's fee. I think this is a worrying trend for clubs with academies, with lower league players switching to Scotland even if it's just for a season.
edit: Rangers press reporting that the fee for Poku would be 'nominal'. [Post edited 11 Mar 12:52]
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| Richard Kone on 13:07 - Mar 11 with 2794 views | davblue |
| Richard Kone on 11:14 - Mar 11 by itfcjoe |
His rise has been incredible, looks different class each time I see him for Wycombe - if his back story was that he was released by Big 6 academy opposed to playing non-league, he'd already be at a PL club or a parachute one |
The improvement in 14 months has been remarkable, seen lots of him over that time. If he continues his current trajectory then he will make it as a championship striker, if he’s at that level and what you would assume is a top level championship team, I’m not sure.
Seen quite a bit of him, still raw, but is physically strong and can run the channels. Heard he was keen on Luton in Jan but they couldn’t agree a fee. Think it went up to 7 million, so it will be a hefty price to pay for him. |  | | |
| Richard Kone on 13:33 - Mar 11 with 2592 views | Herbivore |
| Richard Kone on 11:26 - Mar 11 by SaffronWaldenBlues |
It's interesting to me that we would look to take on a League One striker. While he has been impressive at that level, so was Ladapo, and despite his best efforts, couldn't cut it in the Championship. We are already developing Al-Hamadi for that level, so it would be a bit counterproductive to sell him, just to bring in someone else that will need time to adjust to that level after investing this much effort in Al-Hamadi already.
The reality is that with Delap going, and Hirst having injury issues, we're going to need two players in that area to come in next season alongside Al-Hamadi if we are to compete in the Championship using our preferred system.
We could look at Stansfield again, has Championship experience but scored 20 something goals himself this season in League One. He's still only 22 himself and would probably thrive in our system, assuming McKenna is the boss. |
It's a surprise to see you having a negative take on this. Not sure Stansfield is a realistic target, given Birmingham spent £15m and would want a return on their investment, if they could be persuaded to sell at all. |  |
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