| Govt deficit: what would you do? 15:08 - Jul 8 with 5211 views | giant_stow |
I keep reading that the Uk's finances are looking unsustainable. I realise that that may in itself be a controversial opinion, but for the sake of argument, what would you do to get things back on track? |  |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 18:16 - Jul 8 with 794 views | homer_123 |
Go on then, I'll play and be less pithy.
If we are going to do this, then any decision needs to consider the following three questions:
1. Does this financial decision build resilience for the next generation?
2. Are those who benefited most from extraction giving back most to repair and restore?
3. Can we do this transparently, fairly, and in ways that rebuild social trust?
I look at things in three ways, simple traditional ways of reducing the debt, we then start to push the boundaries and go a little further and then we really go left field.
Basic standard stuff we can consider
Wealth and windfall taxation
Time-limited, targeted levies on unearned wealth gains (e.g. capital gains above a certain threshold, excessive inheritance transfers). Avoids harming income-earners or SMEs and focuses on surplus wealth.
Progressive carbon dividend
Introduce or expand carbon pricing (e.g. emissions trading, carbon taxes), but redistribute revenues directly to the public via annual dividend. Increases revenues while ensuring equity (poorer households gain more proportionally).
Restrained spending growth
No cuts to frontline services, instead, freeze non-essential budget growth in administrative or duplicated layers across departments (with public oversight). We need to be realistic - it's not just about spending less but ensuring we reduce waste, duplication etc.
More progressive
Now we start to push those boundaries...
Public Purpose Levy (10-Year Plan)
Create a specific time-bound national debt reduction fund, funded by:
- Ultra-high net worth tax contributions.
- Sector-specific levies (tech, finance, and luxury real estate).
- Large corporate buybacks/dividend excess redirection (>X% threshold).
- Modelled on sovereign wealth principles; some invested, some used for debt paydown.
Re-moralising Corporate Tax
Offer “ethical offset” rates; businesses can reduce tax via provable contributions to local economic justice (e.g., quality apprenticeships, zero-waste innovations, fair supply chain accreditation). Shifts tax from punishment to participation.
Left field sh*t
I say this is left field, it really isn't and some of this stuff we should be doing anyway, regardless of our debt situation.
UK digital commons platform
The UK launches a state-supported digital infrastructure for data and AI governance; where the public own their data and lease it ethically to tech firms. Revenues (from licensing/partnerships) feed directly into a debt repayment and social regeneration fund.
Think “ethical NHS for data.”
Here's the thing, what many don't realise is that 'our' data is harvested and sold anyway, regardless, I'm absolutely all for being in control of your data, choosing what you share and with whom.
Public utility for essential tech
Nationalise select digital infrastructure (like cloud or identity services) not for control but to create public wealth; profits offset debt, access stays free. Modelled on the crown estate, but digital-first.
Circular economy dividend
Introduce mandatory circularity regulations across production and consumption (e.g., return-to-manufacturer rules, repair quotas), which reduce national import costs and create domestic value loops. Reduce reliance on extractive consumption taxes over time.
Generative capital model
Pilot a new form of licence to operate for large firms; not just legal, but social: companies must meet sustainability, pay ratio, and community investment criteria to trade in key markets. Ethical companies get reduced tax rates and access to government contracts. Others pay a premium which is then directly used to reduce debt.
Debt-for-Nature and wellbeing swap
International agreements allow UK to retire sovereign debt in return for provable contributions to global biodiversity, rewilding, and net-zero, recognised as contributions to global resilience. Start with UK-owned assets (seabeds, peatlands, national parks), applying financial stewardship to planetary wellbeing.
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For me, reducing the debt isn't enough, we must reduce the need for debt by creating self-sustaining, socially owned (or ethically run businesses) wealth streams. Even so far as to dismantle exploitative systems by replacing them with regenerative value loops (a silly way of saying that 'It’s a way of doing things where nothing is wasted, and everything helps something else grow — like nature does.'); ecological, human, and financial.
In short, I would like to see us not just reduce the national debt, but in a way that is ethical, as fair as can be (which if anyone is remotely interested, is nigh on impossible) and leaves us with not only less debt (again, wiping that baby out is a big arse task) but in a position to be less reliant on debt and a little more social control over ourselves.
For anyone that has read this far, one final, way of generating significant income but I suspect this is a step (leap, jump etc.) too far, you ready?
Genetic Sovereignty Fund
The UK monetises its genetic, biomedical and biodiversity assets ethically; creating a sovereign wealth fund based not on oil, land, or tech… but on the biological value of its population, ecosystems, and genomic research base. And we need to be the first Country in the World to do it to really benefit.
This is not some dystopian commodification of human life (well, I can see that it might be viewed that way to be fair!) it’s the structured and public-owned ethical licensing of Britain’s vast bio-research and life sciences edge, combined with consent-based data trusts and nature-linked bio-economy assets.
You'd be looking at things like:
- A UK Genomic Licensing Authority
- Nature-derived molecule licensing
- Ethical biocapital bond
and more....
Again - for what it is worth, it will happen anyway, and possibly (like our data) without our real knowledge or consent. Benefit and profit by being the first and ensure it's Government owned and not owned by businesses/ organisations.
Why might it work?
Well, it builds infrastructure around trust, consent, and bio-justice; no surveillance, no commodification - this is key! It reduces national debt through non-extractive innovation, while creating a new ethical standard for the bioeconomy.
You'd need safeguards and oversight, for sure - we should consider:
- A Public Bio Oversight Council that governs licensing rules.
- All revenues are traceable via public dashboards and used only for debt reduction and public health, I think this is paramount and key to this being a success.
- The Public can opt out at any time; privacy is sovereign.
- Half of all funds generated are reinvested in the NHS and climate restoration.
Right, go on then, rip me a new one!!!! |  |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 18:27 - Jul 8 with 753 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 18:12 - Jul 8 by NthQldITFC |
Understatement Of The Week. |
A bit unfair. Are you forgetting he's a 'man of the people'. All of our 'people' are the offspring of a stockbroker, went to private school, showed fascist views as a teenager, became a commodity trader, grifted for a lucrative salary and gilt-edged pension from the public purse while doing feck all, played a key role in weakening and impoverishing the UK for personal gain and now earn a salary of about £1 million/pa on top of the job they're supposed to be doing. He's so like 'the people'. |  |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 18:32 - Jul 8 with 735 views | StokieBlue |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 17:26 - Jul 8 by nrb1985 |
Not asking people who make bras to make our PPE equipment. |
So don't vote Tory?
SB |  | | |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 18:50 - Jul 8 with 714 views | backwaywhen |
Have another general election ……vote for change vote Labour ! |  | | |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 18:51 - Jul 8 with 713 views | OldFart71 |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 17:09 - Jul 8 by Pinewoodblue |
Agree triple lock needs to be looked at. Problem with your suggestion is that inflation varies between different groups. Those on a lower income being more impacted. . |
As a pensioner I say pay pensioners the RPI inflation, drop the other two factors, the wgae increases and the 2.50%. But it must be RPI rather than CPI and this figure must not be massaged as with the 2022 figure where the then Tory government said that they would not pay the 6.1% wage inflation but the price inflation of 2.1 % where the August figure was 2.4% and the October inflation was 3.4% peaking at 11%.
Also I believe that the government should stop giving free prescriptions at 60 years of age, except for those with certain conditions who need constant medication and should also expect those that continue to work after their official retirement age to pay N.I.
Also the personal allowance should after official retirement be £15,000 as those with very small addition pensions and in receipt of a full State pension end up paying tax above a miserly £12,570. | | | |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 18:56 - Jul 8 with 702 views | tractordownsouth |
Get rid of the triple lock. Politically difficult, but it will need to be done at some point because it's completely unsustainable. |  |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 19:00 - Jul 8 with 691 views | surreyblue |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 18:51 - Jul 8 by OldFart71 |
As a pensioner I say pay pensioners the RPI inflation, drop the other two factors, the wgae increases and the 2.50%. But it must be RPI rather than CPI and this figure must not be massaged as with the 2022 figure where the then Tory government said that they would not pay the 6.1% wage inflation but the price inflation of 2.1 % where the August figure was 2.4% and the October inflation was 3.4% peaking at 11%.
Also I believe that the government should stop giving free prescriptions at 60 years of age, except for those with certain conditions who need constant medication and should also expect those that continue to work after their official retirement age to pay N.I.
Also the personal allowance should after official retirement be £15,000 as those with very small addition pensions and in receipt of a full State pension end up paying tax above a miserly £12,570. |
The temporary suspension of the triple lock on 2022 was due to the lag between inflation and wage growth. It would have been ridiculous to grant an inflationary increase well above salary increases in one year to the give salary increases were high because of the preceeding year's inflation | | | |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 19:19 - Jul 8 with 667 views | chicoazul |
More tax take more money off people more tax take this benefit away more tax scrap the triple lock more tax more tax more tax
Some of you are the epitome of that If you do the same thing expecting a different outcome quote |  |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 19:23 - Jul 8 with 661 views | Dubtractor |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 19:19 - Jul 8 by chicoazul |
More tax take more money off people more tax take this benefit away more tax scrap the triple lock more tax more tax more tax
Some of you are the epitome of that If you do the same thing expecting a different outcome quote |
What's your suggestion then, Chickers, other than vote for someone else?
Vote for who/what?
What's your suggestion. It's easy to sneer at others, less easy to offer something constructive.
That's not meant as a dig at you, well maybe a small one, but give us some ideas! |  |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 19:23 - Jul 8 with 657 views | J2BLUE |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 19:19 - Jul 8 by chicoazul |
More tax take more money off people more tax take this benefit away more tax scrap the triple lock more tax more tax more tax
Some of you are the epitome of that If you do the same thing expecting a different outcome quote |
What would you do then? |  |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 19:48 - Jul 8 with 610 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 18:51 - Jul 8 by OldFart71 |
As a pensioner I say pay pensioners the RPI inflation, drop the other two factors, the wgae increases and the 2.50%. But it must be RPI rather than CPI and this figure must not be massaged as with the 2022 figure where the then Tory government said that they would not pay the 6.1% wage inflation but the price inflation of 2.1 % where the August figure was 2.4% and the October inflation was 3.4% peaking at 11%.
Also I believe that the government should stop giving free prescriptions at 60 years of age, except for those with certain conditions who need constant medication and should also expect those that continue to work after their official retirement age to pay N.I.
Also the personal allowance should after official retirement be £15,000 as those with very small addition pensions and in receipt of a full State pension end up paying tax above a miserly £12,570. |
There is a third index, CPIH, consumer price index plus costs associated with running a household . Currently sits between RPI &CPI was 4% in May.
RPI covers everything including items pensioners are less likely to purchase. |  |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 19:56 - Jul 8 with 593 views | nrb1985 |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 18:32 - Jul 8 by StokieBlue |
So don't vote Tory?
SB |
I don’t and unlikely ever will after the last 14 years. | | | |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 19:59 - Jul 8 with 588 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 18:56 - Jul 8 by tractordownsouth |
Get rid of the triple lock. Politically difficult, but it will need to be done at some point because it's completely unsustainable. |
I have no problem with the triple lock in principle. My whole life I’ve seen what it means for pensioners to grow old in poverty. My grandparents had nothing. They all contributed to the war effort to ensure our freedoms, but couldn’t afford a car, could only rent electrical appliances and thought a trip to the garden centre once a month was as good as it got. They weren’t boomers like their much better off kids, and that’s stuck with me. Some cultures value and appreciate their elders yet we seem to see them as an inconvenience and stick them in homes. I don’t begrudge them anything. They’ve toiled their whole lives and deserve a bit of care. The fact that I’m hurtling towards OAPship in just over 10 years has nothing to do with it, honest ;). | |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 20:02 - Jul 8 with 581 views | Herbivore |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 17:36 - Jul 8 by chicoazul |
I’m simply saying you’re out of touch big guy, that’s all. |
If being down with Reform is being in touch, then I'm quite glad to be out of touch thanks. |  |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 20:04 - Jul 8 with 580 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 18:16 - Jul 8 by homer_123 |
Go on then, I'll play and be less pithy.
If we are going to do this, then any decision needs to consider the following three questions:
1. Does this financial decision build resilience for the next generation?
2. Are those who benefited most from extraction giving back most to repair and restore?
3. Can we do this transparently, fairly, and in ways that rebuild social trust?
I look at things in three ways, simple traditional ways of reducing the debt, we then start to push the boundaries and go a little further and then we really go left field.
Basic standard stuff we can consider
Wealth and windfall taxation
Time-limited, targeted levies on unearned wealth gains (e.g. capital gains above a certain threshold, excessive inheritance transfers). Avoids harming income-earners or SMEs and focuses on surplus wealth.
Progressive carbon dividend
Introduce or expand carbon pricing (e.g. emissions trading, carbon taxes), but redistribute revenues directly to the public via annual dividend. Increases revenues while ensuring equity (poorer households gain more proportionally).
Restrained spending growth
No cuts to frontline services, instead, freeze non-essential budget growth in administrative or duplicated layers across departments (with public oversight). We need to be realistic - it's not just about spending less but ensuring we reduce waste, duplication etc.
More progressive
Now we start to push those boundaries...
Public Purpose Levy (10-Year Plan)
Create a specific time-bound national debt reduction fund, funded by:
- Ultra-high net worth tax contributions.
- Sector-specific levies (tech, finance, and luxury real estate).
- Large corporate buybacks/dividend excess redirection (>X% threshold).
- Modelled on sovereign wealth principles; some invested, some used for debt paydown.
Re-moralising Corporate Tax
Offer “ethical offset” rates; businesses can reduce tax via provable contributions to local economic justice (e.g., quality apprenticeships, zero-waste innovations, fair supply chain accreditation). Shifts tax from punishment to participation.
Left field sh*t
I say this is left field, it really isn't and some of this stuff we should be doing anyway, regardless of our debt situation.
UK digital commons platform
The UK launches a state-supported digital infrastructure for data and AI governance; where the public own their data and lease it ethically to tech firms. Revenues (from licensing/partnerships) feed directly into a debt repayment and social regeneration fund.
Think “ethical NHS for data.”
Here's the thing, what many don't realise is that 'our' data is harvested and sold anyway, regardless, I'm absolutely all for being in control of your data, choosing what you share and with whom.
Public utility for essential tech
Nationalise select digital infrastructure (like cloud or identity services) not for control but to create public wealth; profits offset debt, access stays free. Modelled on the crown estate, but digital-first.
Circular economy dividend
Introduce mandatory circularity regulations across production and consumption (e.g., return-to-manufacturer rules, repair quotas), which reduce national import costs and create domestic value loops. Reduce reliance on extractive consumption taxes over time.
Generative capital model
Pilot a new form of licence to operate for large firms; not just legal, but social: companies must meet sustainability, pay ratio, and community investment criteria to trade in key markets. Ethical companies get reduced tax rates and access to government contracts. Others pay a premium which is then directly used to reduce debt.
Debt-for-Nature and wellbeing swap
International agreements allow UK to retire sovereign debt in return for provable contributions to global biodiversity, rewilding, and net-zero, recognised as contributions to global resilience. Start with UK-owned assets (seabeds, peatlands, national parks), applying financial stewardship to planetary wellbeing.
--- --- ---
For me, reducing the debt isn't enough, we must reduce the need for debt by creating self-sustaining, socially owned (or ethically run businesses) wealth streams. Even so far as to dismantle exploitative systems by replacing them with regenerative value loops (a silly way of saying that 'It’s a way of doing things where nothing is wasted, and everything helps something else grow — like nature does.'); ecological, human, and financial.
In short, I would like to see us not just reduce the national debt, but in a way that is ethical, as fair as can be (which if anyone is remotely interested, is nigh on impossible) and leaves us with not only less debt (again, wiping that baby out is a big arse task) but in a position to be less reliant on debt and a little more social control over ourselves.
For anyone that has read this far, one final, way of generating significant income but I suspect this is a step (leap, jump etc.) too far, you ready?
Genetic Sovereignty Fund
The UK monetises its genetic, biomedical and biodiversity assets ethically; creating a sovereign wealth fund based not on oil, land, or tech… but on the biological value of its population, ecosystems, and genomic research base. And we need to be the first Country in the World to do it to really benefit.
This is not some dystopian commodification of human life (well, I can see that it might be viewed that way to be fair!) it’s the structured and public-owned ethical licensing of Britain’s vast bio-research and life sciences edge, combined with consent-based data trusts and nature-linked bio-economy assets.
You'd be looking at things like:
- A UK Genomic Licensing Authority
- Nature-derived molecule licensing
- Ethical biocapital bond
and more....
Again - for what it is worth, it will happen anyway, and possibly (like our data) without our real knowledge or consent. Benefit and profit by being the first and ensure it's Government owned and not owned by businesses/ organisations.
Why might it work?
Well, it builds infrastructure around trust, consent, and bio-justice; no surveillance, no commodification - this is key! It reduces national debt through non-extractive innovation, while creating a new ethical standard for the bioeconomy.
You'd need safeguards and oversight, for sure - we should consider:
- A Public Bio Oversight Council that governs licensing rules.
- All revenues are traceable via public dashboards and used only for debt reduction and public health, I think this is paramount and key to this being a success.
- The Public can opt out at any time; privacy is sovereign.
- Half of all funds generated are reinvested in the NHS and climate restoration.
Right, go on then, rip me a new one!!!! |
That’s a great contribution btw. I’ve read it and am thinking about it. Initial thoughts are that it’s surprising/worrying that someone who’s as caring/progressive as you is putting national debt first. That probably tells us something about how we’ve all been conditioned. BUT, a lot of stuff in there that deserves a fuller response. Which I’ll get around to later. You’re miles ahead of our govt though. | |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 20:06 - Jul 8 with 576 views | Herbivore |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 17:46 - Jul 8 by Bent_double |
Trouble is, you're gonna need all the tax revenue it generates just to cover the mental health bills of all the people who constantly smoke it. |
We have to cover that anyway though, without the additional tax revenue. The evidence from places where cannabis use has been legalised or decriminalised doesn't suggest it leads to increased use. | |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 20:09 - Jul 8 with 563 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Default....start again...we can make our reality whatever we want it to be! |  |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 20:48 - Jul 8 with 512 views | Pendejo |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 15:56 - Jul 8 by EddyJ |
Legalising cannabis would seem to be an obvious money-maker.
Can't leave the house without smelling weed everywhere you go, so its clearly widely-used. Government may as well get a cut of that. |
Nope, they make more from taxing laundered profits than they would taxing legalised profits |  |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 21:00 - Jul 8 with 494 views | Pendejo |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 18:16 - Jul 8 by homer_123 |
Go on then, I'll play and be less pithy.
If we are going to do this, then any decision needs to consider the following three questions:
1. Does this financial decision build resilience for the next generation?
2. Are those who benefited most from extraction giving back most to repair and restore?
3. Can we do this transparently, fairly, and in ways that rebuild social trust?
I look at things in three ways, simple traditional ways of reducing the debt, we then start to push the boundaries and go a little further and then we really go left field.
Basic standard stuff we can consider
Wealth and windfall taxation
Time-limited, targeted levies on unearned wealth gains (e.g. capital gains above a certain threshold, excessive inheritance transfers). Avoids harming income-earners or SMEs and focuses on surplus wealth.
Progressive carbon dividend
Introduce or expand carbon pricing (e.g. emissions trading, carbon taxes), but redistribute revenues directly to the public via annual dividend. Increases revenues while ensuring equity (poorer households gain more proportionally).
Restrained spending growth
No cuts to frontline services, instead, freeze non-essential budget growth in administrative or duplicated layers across departments (with public oversight). We need to be realistic - it's not just about spending less but ensuring we reduce waste, duplication etc.
More progressive
Now we start to push those boundaries...
Public Purpose Levy (10-Year Plan)
Create a specific time-bound national debt reduction fund, funded by:
- Ultra-high net worth tax contributions.
- Sector-specific levies (tech, finance, and luxury real estate).
- Large corporate buybacks/dividend excess redirection (>X% threshold).
- Modelled on sovereign wealth principles; some invested, some used for debt paydown.
Re-moralising Corporate Tax
Offer “ethical offset” rates; businesses can reduce tax via provable contributions to local economic justice (e.g., quality apprenticeships, zero-waste innovations, fair supply chain accreditation). Shifts tax from punishment to participation.
Left field sh*t
I say this is left field, it really isn't and some of this stuff we should be doing anyway, regardless of our debt situation.
UK digital commons platform
The UK launches a state-supported digital infrastructure for data and AI governance; where the public own their data and lease it ethically to tech firms. Revenues (from licensing/partnerships) feed directly into a debt repayment and social regeneration fund.
Think “ethical NHS for data.”
Here's the thing, what many don't realise is that 'our' data is harvested and sold anyway, regardless, I'm absolutely all for being in control of your data, choosing what you share and with whom.
Public utility for essential tech
Nationalise select digital infrastructure (like cloud or identity services) not for control but to create public wealth; profits offset debt, access stays free. Modelled on the crown estate, but digital-first.
Circular economy dividend
Introduce mandatory circularity regulations across production and consumption (e.g., return-to-manufacturer rules, repair quotas), which reduce national import costs and create domestic value loops. Reduce reliance on extractive consumption taxes over time.
Generative capital model
Pilot a new form of licence to operate for large firms; not just legal, but social: companies must meet sustainability, pay ratio, and community investment criteria to trade in key markets. Ethical companies get reduced tax rates and access to government contracts. Others pay a premium which is then directly used to reduce debt.
Debt-for-Nature and wellbeing swap
International agreements allow UK to retire sovereign debt in return for provable contributions to global biodiversity, rewilding, and net-zero, recognised as contributions to global resilience. Start with UK-owned assets (seabeds, peatlands, national parks), applying financial stewardship to planetary wellbeing.
--- --- ---
For me, reducing the debt isn't enough, we must reduce the need for debt by creating self-sustaining, socially owned (or ethically run businesses) wealth streams. Even so far as to dismantle exploitative systems by replacing them with regenerative value loops (a silly way of saying that 'It’s a way of doing things where nothing is wasted, and everything helps something else grow — like nature does.'); ecological, human, and financial.
In short, I would like to see us not just reduce the national debt, but in a way that is ethical, as fair as can be (which if anyone is remotely interested, is nigh on impossible) and leaves us with not only less debt (again, wiping that baby out is a big arse task) but in a position to be less reliant on debt and a little more social control over ourselves.
For anyone that has read this far, one final, way of generating significant income but I suspect this is a step (leap, jump etc.) too far, you ready?
Genetic Sovereignty Fund
The UK monetises its genetic, biomedical and biodiversity assets ethically; creating a sovereign wealth fund based not on oil, land, or tech… but on the biological value of its population, ecosystems, and genomic research base. And we need to be the first Country in the World to do it to really benefit.
This is not some dystopian commodification of human life (well, I can see that it might be viewed that way to be fair!) it’s the structured and public-owned ethical licensing of Britain’s vast bio-research and life sciences edge, combined with consent-based data trusts and nature-linked bio-economy assets.
You'd be looking at things like:
- A UK Genomic Licensing Authority
- Nature-derived molecule licensing
- Ethical biocapital bond
and more....
Again - for what it is worth, it will happen anyway, and possibly (like our data) without our real knowledge or consent. Benefit and profit by being the first and ensure it's Government owned and not owned by businesses/ organisations.
Why might it work?
Well, it builds infrastructure around trust, consent, and bio-justice; no surveillance, no commodification - this is key! It reduces national debt through non-extractive innovation, while creating a new ethical standard for the bioeconomy.
You'd need safeguards and oversight, for sure - we should consider:
- A Public Bio Oversight Council that governs licensing rules.
- All revenues are traceable via public dashboards and used only for debt reduction and public health, I think this is paramount and key to this being a success.
- The Public can opt out at any time; privacy is sovereign.
- Half of all funds generated are reinvested in the NHS and climate restoration.
Right, go on then, rip me a new one!!!! |
If that's your back of a fag packet response, carry on | |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 21:03 - Jul 8 with 483 views | backwaywhen |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 19:56 - Jul 8 by nrb1985 |
I don’t and unlikely ever will after the last 14 years. |
And you think the last year has been any better ! …Labour has and always will bankrupt the country it’s in their makeup unfortunately.
Give in to the unions and rob the real workers who keep this country ticking over . | | | |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 21:10 - Jul 8 with 467 views | StokieBlue |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 21:03 - Jul 8 by backwaywhen |
And you think the last year has been any better ! …Labour has and always will bankrupt the country it’s in their makeup unfortunately.
Give in to the unions and rob the real workers who keep this country ticking over . |
How have they bankrupted the country in the last year? Please provide evidence and ensure it's not a legacy Tory issue.
It's people like you that are the problem, wheeling out ancient sound bites and narratives without any evidence.
So let's see how they have bankrupted the country and given to the unions in the last year.
SB | | | |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 22:03 - Jul 8 with 421 views | bluelagos |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 20:09 - Jul 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Default....start again...we can make our reality whatever we want it to be! |
100% inheritance tax should do it :-) |  |
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| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 22:31 - Jul 8 with 399 views | Leaky |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 16:17 - Jul 8 by StokieBlue |
Do you have specific examples?
SB |
Yes, I had a heart attack in 2018 luckily I live near Papworth Hospital got rushed in had a stent inserted at the old Papworth, a freind of mine workered there at the time. In 2019 I had a triple bypass op this time at the new Papworth, this same friend did all my pre op checks for the op at the New Papworth . in 2018 she had two "Managers" over seeing her by the time I had my bypass 2019 at the new Papworth she had ten "managers" above her, Say's it all
The same with the prison service my nieghbour is a prison officer they had a complete Plant Room refit on completion there was a estimated £5k scrap metal to be diposed of the staff had a metting how this could used, a civil servant tiold them they had get a quote to have it disposed of . they ended up paying a contractor £1000 to dump £5k of scrap.
My son works as a boiler maintenance engineer on a military base he was told that his stores were no longer needed he had three weeks to vocate the building. He was told by his boss to empty everything into a skip he estimated he threw £450k worth of spares in said skip.
He is now on call for seven days 24 hours paid £200 a day, above his £1k a week wage incase the heating breaks down and its 30 degree heat wave. This all happens from 3 people living a village of under 2000 population times that lot over bhe whole counrtry |  | | |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 22:55 - Jul 8 with 368 views | Tonytown |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 21:03 - Jul 8 by backwaywhen |
And you think the last year has been any better ! …Labour has and always will bankrupt the country it’s in their makeup unfortunately.
Give in to the unions and rob the real workers who keep this country ticking over . |
You are a cretin | | | |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 22:59 - Jul 8 with 365 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Govt deficit: what would you do? on 19:19 - Jul 8 by chicoazul |
More tax take more money off people more tax take this benefit away more tax scrap the triple lock more tax more tax more tax
Some of you are the epitome of that If you do the same thing expecting a different outcome quote |
And your solution is? |  | | |
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