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Take the blue tinted glasses off, this is a side which plays UCL football, dominates their league (up until a few months ago) and has one of the biggest supporter bases in the world. They are far, far bigger than us.
That being said - no, the SFL as a whole is no upgrade on the Championship, granted. But come on. Managing Celtic would be a great pathway to a big PL move really - just look at Ange. I wouldn’t be amazed if it happened.
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Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 06:37 - Oct 29 with 964 views
Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 21:43 - Oct 28 by football
How on earth would him going be good for us. Weird post tbh - he's the best thing thats happened to us for many many years. Anyway, he wont' be offski
It's not a weird position. We are not moving forwards. I would be livid if we sacked him after what he'sdone for our club, but if he left us it could provide freshness to his career and our team.
We are so predictable at the moment. I am sure McKenna can and will turn it around but at the moment every game we play looks like a banana skin. We have better players than Leeds, Burnley and Sheffield United had last year, but look where we are. The players are performing well enough now, but where are the goals? Take out Philogene's worldies with 0 XG and we have scored very few open play goals.
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Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 06:45 - Oct 29 with 941 views
Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 06:37 - Oct 29 by AlpineBlue
It's not a weird position. We are not moving forwards. I would be livid if we sacked him after what he'sdone for our club, but if he left us it could provide freshness to his career and our team.
We are so predictable at the moment. I am sure McKenna can and will turn it around but at the moment every game we play looks like a banana skin. We have better players than Leeds, Burnley and Sheffield United had last year, but look where we are. The players are performing well enough now, but where are the goals? Take out Philogene's worldies with 0 XG and we have scored very few open play goals.
I think he goes . European football is a massive pull. How would I feel.about it . Let's just say a year ago I would've been really pissed off but now I would shrug my shoulders and hope we appoint another young up and coming manager which im sure we would.
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Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 07:40 - Oct 29 with 820 views
Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 00:10 - Oct 29 by vinceg
Exactly this.
Take a look at this list of Celtic managers since the 60s and tell me how many of them have gone on to bigger and better things?
Jock Stein Billy McNeil David Hay Billy McNeil (2) Liam Brady Lou Macari Tommy Burns Wim Jansen Jo Venglos John Barnes Martin O'Neill Gordon Strachan Tony Mowbray Neil Lennon Ronny Delia Brendan Rodgers Neil Lennon (2) Ange Postecoglu Brendan Rodgers (2)
It's not a pathway to a better job in the PL, only Ange has managed to do that to an extent. It is a dead end job for ex-players, ambitious no-hopers and managers who have burnt other bridges and are on the downgrade.
If KM takes the Celtic job, he's a fool and will plummet in my perception of him
By and large, that’s a very sorry list.
It’s a Mickey Mouse league that anyone who fails with Celtic has to be stunningly incompetent. Then there’s the bigotry element. There’s no way I’d want a job in that environment.
Despite that, I could see him taking it as a ‘stepping stone’ regardless of its merits. Nothing is forever and it’s his choice.
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Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 07:46 - Oct 29 with 803 views
Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 07:04 - Oct 29 by The_Flashing_Smile
Why would you take out Philogene's goals?
Because they came out of nothing. They're like "Get out of Jail free cards'". What I mean is that they weren't chances, they were goals he conjured out of nothing. I just feel like we're either going to score a world or a penalty. Otherwise we just run into a brick wall.
It does feel a manager has only so many chances to catch that big wave. We fail to get promoted then he might lose his job here and /or he becomes a journeyman manager here where he's overlooked for the big jobs. If he were to get Celtic firing and maybe win the league and he'does reasonably well in Europe then it puts him on the radar for a future PL job. Would say he should have knowledge of decent Championship players who would probably do well in Scotland. In some ways, there's a bit of uncertainty here after our mediocre start and it might just seem like he's only got so many chances before he's gone from being a wanted bright, young manager to another journeyman on the circuit. I'm hoping he backs himself here and stays here to see this out. If he does, we need to back him.
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Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 08:40 - Oct 29 with 720 views
You know what would be a great pathway to the PL? Staying here with his expensively assembled squad who provided he does a good job should equally dominate their league. If he does that he will be in the PL next season opposed to a theoretical role in 2 or 3 years that may never appear (You'd have to imagine a lot of club owners will take Big Ange as a case study on why you shouldn't bring the Celtic manager down south).
They are not a UCL club - they got eliminated in qualifying by the mighty FC Kairat Almaty (who I imagine we'd give a game at our best). Hardly a modern European pedigree worth hanging your hat on.
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Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 10:03 - Oct 29 with 642 views
Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 07:46 - Oct 29 by AlpineBlue
Because they came out of nothing. They're like "Get out of Jail free cards'". What I mean is that they weren't chances, they were goals he conjured out of nothing. I just feel like we're either going to score a world or a penalty. Otherwise we just run into a brick wall.
He didn't conjure them out of nothing. They were team goals with spectacular finishes. Watch the movement around him, and the build up before he takes possession of the football (Norwich excluded).
I hate these lazy assumptions.
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Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 10:34 - Oct 29 with 598 views
Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 06:37 - Oct 29 by AlpineBlue
It's not a weird position. We are not moving forwards. I would be livid if we sacked him after what he'sdone for our club, but if he left us it could provide freshness to his career and our team.
We are so predictable at the moment. I am sure McKenna can and will turn it around but at the moment every game we play looks like a banana skin. We have better players than Leeds, Burnley and Sheffield United had last year, but look where we are. The players are performing well enough now, but where are the goals? Take out Philogene's worldies with 0 XG and we have scored very few open play goals.
I'm afraid this post is everything I dislike about the modern football fan and particularly those with parachute payments. Totally entitled and thinks not winning every game is a failure.
We have better players than Leeds, Burnley and Sheffield United based on what? There are a fair few players in each of those teams who would make us better.
We should be second in the league based on the chances we are creating and conceding. The players are letting KM down seriously badly. They're missing chances they should score and conceding goals they should keep out.
We might be predictable but IMO there has only been one game we really deserved to lose on the balance of play and that was Blackburn. If we take our chances at Preston we win, If we score the penalty against Boro it's a different game and if we take even a few of our chances against Charlton it's a different game.
We are so so lucky to have KM and the underlying stats back it up. Don't take it for granted.
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Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 10:39 - Oct 29 with 584 views
Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 06:37 - Oct 29 by AlpineBlue
It's not a weird position. We are not moving forwards. I would be livid if we sacked him after what he'sdone for our club, but if he left us it could provide freshness to his career and our team.
We are so predictable at the moment. I am sure McKenna can and will turn it around but at the moment every game we play looks like a banana skin. We have better players than Leeds, Burnley and Sheffield United had last year, but look where we are. The players are performing well enough now, but where are the goals? Take out Philogene's worldies with 0 XG and we have scored very few open play goals.
In which case why do Celtic want him?
Could it be because he's a very good manager and we're lucky to have him?
SB
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Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 10:41 - Oct 29 with 580 views
Celtic is a much bigger club than Bournemouth or Brentford, but any manager of serious ambition would want to manage the latter two clubs.
Indeed both Glasgow clubs are huge, but they are victims of a parochial loyalty to one of Europe's weakest leagues.
If they genuinely wanted to fulfill their potential they would seriously try and join their Welsh counterparts and play in England.
That will never happen so they are indefinitely condemned to be anaemic and downsized football clubs.
If McKenna is happy to flirt with the early rounds of the Champions League and be a flat track bully in an impoverished domestic league then Celtic is a natural fit.
But there's no guarantee he'll learn much in the way of surviving and thriving as a Premier League coach.
Getting Ipswich back up to PL and staying there is a much harder job than sitting in the dugout at Parkhead and pitting yourself largely against L1 level opposition.
If KM desires an easier life for the next few years then yes he should go to Celtic, but if he's determined to prove himself as an elite club manager, he should stay at Ipswich.
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Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 11:09 - Oct 29 with 503 views
Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 07:46 - Oct 29 by AlpineBlue
Because they came out of nothing. They're like "Get out of Jail free cards'". What I mean is that they weren't chances, they were goals he conjured out of nothing. I just feel like we're either going to score a world or a penalty. Otherwise we just run into a brick wall.
That's just nonsense. They don't 'come out of nothing' - most of them have come following sustained pressure, he's had a few goes (not all of them go in) and anyway, they're one of the reasons we bought him. Philogene cutting in from the left is a legitimate tactic. In fact skillful players who can unlock defences on their own (see also: Clarke) are something we need in a division where many teams will low block against our superior skill.
Penalties, also, very often come from sustained pressure, quite often are instead of what should've been a goal... and ALWAYS come from getting in the opponent's box.
You could basically disregard any goal with your logic.
Forget about the size of the clubs, and even expectations, I’m not convinced of the financials.
Celtic would have to pay Ipswich £5m in compensation. They would also , I suspect, have to pay KMc more than they have paid any previous Manager. Seen suggestion that in 2023 Brendan Roger was on a salary of £2.3m plus bonus of up to£700,000.
Some one posted previously KMc would want to sign Jack Clarke, would KMc be given a transfer kitty substantial enough for his liking.
Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 23:13 - Oct 29 by Pinewoodblue
Forget about the size of the clubs, and even expectations, I’m not convinced of the financials.
Celtic would have to pay Ipswich £5m in compensation. They would also , I suspect, have to pay KMc more than they have paid any previous Manager. Seen suggestion that in 2023 Brendan Roger was on a salary of £2.3m plus bonus of up to£700,000.
Some one posted previously KMc would want to sign Jack Clarke, would KMc be given a transfer kitty substantial enough for his liking.
I’m expecting him to stay Blur.
Agreed. Given they seem to have struggled with signings over the summer, I’d be very surprised if they could afford him even if they do want him. He’s bloody expensive (unreasonably so really, but Ashton seems to have protected the club if he does go). It’ll be a shame to see him move on when he does. This is a difficult patch, but he’ll be learning from it.
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but European football isn't actually a guarantee like it once was.
I believe up until this season, the team finishing 1st was entered into the CL group stage. Now if you finish 1st, you have to go through the CL qualification stages - hence why Celtic had to play the Kazakhstan side and the winner went through to the group stage. Is it really something that would appeal to him over the Ipswich job and the potential of PL football next season? Celtic can still win the title, but they've got stiff competition from Hearts and Rangers have started well under Danny Rohl.
The European football isn't as much of a pull compared to seasons previous. Unless McKenna would be happy with Europa League, then the Celtic job may still appeal.
Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 21:22 - Oct 28 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior
Not when we were mid table in the Champ though, he also just called out our home crowd.
His comments were hardly Zombies/Numbskulls territory though, were they? And he admitted that the boos after the Charlton game were justified, especially given that he himself was critical of the performances against Middlesbrough and Charlton.
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Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 09:26 - Oct 30 with 170 views
Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 09:03 - Oct 30 by IPSWICHFANITFC
Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere but European football isn't actually a guarantee like it once was.
I believe up until this season, the team finishing 1st was entered into the CL group stage. Now if you finish 1st, you have to go through the CL qualification stages - hence why Celtic had to play the Kazakhstan side and the winner went through to the group stage. Is it really something that would appeal to him over the Ipswich job and the potential of PL football next season? Celtic can still win the title, but they've got stiff competition from Hearts and Rangers have started well under Danny Rohl.
The European football isn't as much of a pull compared to seasons previous. Unless McKenna would be happy with Europa League, then the Celtic job may still appeal.
I assume KMc will, at some point in the future, want to manage at Old Trafford with Solksjaer as Director of football perhaps.European football is the only thing missing from his CV.
Think the longer KMc’s family are in Suffolk the more difficult it will be to leave.
So many things to take into consideration but would like to think he has unfinished business here.
Amazed at how many people don’t think Celtic… on 23:25 - Oct 29 by Swansea_Blue
Agreed. Given they seem to have struggled with signings over the summer, I’d be very surprised if they could afford him even if they do want him. He’s bloody expensive (unreasonably so really, but Ashton seems to have protected the club if he does go). It’ll be a shame to see him move on when he does. This is a difficult patch, but he’ll be learning from it.
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