| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins 22:41 - Feb 9 with 8926 views | J2BLUE |
If you're still working and you vote for Reform you really have a screw loose
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:31 - Feb 10 with 1098 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:27 - Feb 10 by Benters |
Never been a pen pusher myself,I was building and gardening.
But surely people are more productive working in a office than at home.
(Waits for some smart arse to post a link saying it’s the opposite or doesn’t make any difference). |
I’ve given a literally example on page four of this thread as to why removing a ‘work from home’ option would make life harder in my case for some shifts. Absolutely wouldn’t increase productivity being in the office itself and would take time out of my life rather than spending it with loved ones. |  |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:39 - Feb 10 with 1057 views | Blueschev |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:23 - Feb 10 by DJR |
But there will be other soundbites for them.
And it's all very calculated because it is designed to evoke an emotional response.
Indeed, if the last 10 years or so has taught us anything, it is that for many voters emotion is the main driving force for how they vote.
https://www.jbs.cam.ac.uk/2024 [Post edited 10 Feb 12:31]
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I also think there's also an element of bashing the public sector in there below the surface too. Implying services are poor because the bloated public sector has all of it's staff working from home doing nothing. |  | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:41 - Feb 10 with 1047 views | bartyg |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:31 - Feb 10 by The_Romford_Blue |
I’ve given a literally example on page four of this thread as to why removing a ‘work from home’ option would make life harder in my case for some shifts. Absolutely wouldn’t increase productivity being in the office itself and would take time out of my life rather than spending it with loved ones. |
Not worth giving Benters a second thought, you'd be forgiven for assuming he were wrong professionally. |  | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:54 - Feb 10 with 987 views | BlueNomad |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 09:50 - Feb 10 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You say that, but your working life was during a time when WFH wasn't a thing, so you don't have the experience to draw from. Like anything, you get used to it. I work in an office where you can get up and make a tea any time you want, so I wouldn't see that as an issue.
I also like being in an office with other people. But then you waste time and money travelling in (very often standing on a packed train, which isn't pleasant) and invariably end up having a late dinner due to travelling home again. All this assuming the trains aren't fecked, as they often are. And you spend more on lunch etc.
At the moment I'm in the office Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays, which seems a decent balance. And it's a lovely office, right next to Liverpool St. Station, decent (subsidised) bar/restaurant on the 8th floor, table tennis table on our floor, plenty of desks but also comfy areas, and quiet areas. So there's pluses and minuses on both sides.
But why politicians need to get involved is beyond me. |
I should have added that I did do a lot of wfh when I was a student. I was more productive when I worked in the university library. |  | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:56 - Feb 10 with 981 views | Funge |
As mentioned elsewhere on this thread, private companies will do what works best for them - for what it's worth, I don't care if people work at home, in the office, or up a tree, as long as the work gets done.
Good staff perform regardless of location, bad staff will take the p1ss. It was plenty easy enough 25 years ago in my crappy office job in Towun to take liberties - 5/6 smoke breaks a day, all approx. 10 minutes each; head out to lunch for 2/3 pints probably 2/3 days a week, resulting in precisely no work being done all afternoon, dicking around talking b0llocks to my colleagues when the boss went oft to another part of the floor... all for the princely sum of £12k per annum, most of which went into fruit machines on payday (but that's another story...)
Farage, having spent copious amounts of time with Arron Banks and his boozy lunches, is, of course, well aware of this. Frankly, the entire premise of the financial services sector centres around going out in the City for drinks, very nice indeed it is too.
The manifestation of this will obviously be felt in the public sector at local authority level; I wouldn't much want to be working at Kent County Council HQ at present.... |  | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:57 - Feb 10 with 973 views | J2BLUE |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 07:35 - Feb 10 by Benters |
I mean how do those of you WHO work from home concentrate when you are posting on here during the day?
Money for old rope innit. |
I get these things called breaks.
Something else which is probably woke nonsense and will be scrapped. | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 13:00 - Feb 10 with 957 views | J2BLUE |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:33 - Feb 10 by chicoazul |
Interesting that many TWTDers seem to think working from home is a “workers’right”. |
Do we not have the right to request to work from home?
It doesn't matter to me, I am fully remote. Never met any of my colleagues in person in 5 years. I am just wondering what comes next. | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 13:12 - Feb 10 with 924 views | J2BLUE |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:23 - Feb 10 by Benters |
He is and they don’t like it up em. |
I hope you really enjoy it while they go after other people making their lives worse. The memories might comfort you when they come for you.
Unless of course you have several hundred quid a month you're happy to spend on health insurance just to stick it to other people? | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 13:22 - Feb 10 with 888 views | MattinLondon |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 13:12 - Feb 10 by J2BLUE |
I hope you really enjoy it while they go after other people making their lives worse. The memories might comfort you when they come for you.
Unless of course you have several hundred quid a month you're happy to spend on health insurance just to stick it to other people? |
A while ago there was a post on here regarding Reform shutting down an old folks home resulting in the next nearest one being a private nursing home owned by someone in Reform.
One of the relatives said that he was a fully paid up Reform member and he never thought that they’d do this to people like him. Kind of sums up Reform supporters - they’ll happy take a dump on others as long as it’s not them. And it’s never their fault. |  | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 13:24 - Feb 10 with 866 views | J2BLUE |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 13:22 - Feb 10 by MattinLondon |
A while ago there was a post on here regarding Reform shutting down an old folks home resulting in the next nearest one being a private nursing home owned by someone in Reform.
One of the relatives said that he was a fully paid up Reform member and he never thought that they’d do this to people like him. Kind of sums up Reform supporters - they’ll happy take a dump on others as long as it’s not them. And it’s never their fault. |
Agree. Youtube is full of Trump voters who lost their government jobs after Musk's rampage. | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 13:24 - Feb 10 with 866 views | bsw72 |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:10 - Feb 10 by The_Romford_Blue |
It’s not a secret I work in the betting industry doing the antepost odds for an online firm. I also sometimes do big events in play. Some of those events such as the Super Bowl or the World Cup in June are in the middle of the night. My firm have had the software and programmes installed into my house so that these events can be done at my home rather than me getting on a train for 90 minutes to come in during the night.
The superbowl the other day I changed the match winner odds 144 times during the match and ran 8 separate spread markets. It is frankly utter bollox from Farage that I could’ve been more productive by doing that job in the office and yet it would’ve meant 3 hours extra travelling, I’d be away from the missus overnight and would’ve had to wait a few hours for the first train home from the office.
Nigel.. you can go f*** yourself. |
I do an IT role at a large global professional sevices org. My direct team members are in London, Exeter, New York and India, plus I work with a number of vendors and peers across the world.
More often than not, I am on and working before 7am to cover APAC (including Aus and NZ), and other days in the evening for US, especially Silicon Valley.
I come into an office usually twice a week, either London or another in the UK (Milton Keynes, Norwich etc) to catch up with other local teams or the business leaders - but my role could be done anywhere in the world in theory.
I also have care requirements for my partner who has a couple of chronic conditions - the flexibility in my location means I can step away at 5pm, cook dinner etc and then go back and finish anything later, it works for me, my boss (US Based) and my company.
For good managers and organisations, it's not about where you work but the value you add to the organisation and wider society, which I reckon puts me streets ahead of the Clacton Frog Faced racist. |  | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 14:03 - Feb 10 with 772 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:54 - Feb 10 by BlueNomad |
I should have added that I did do a lot of wfh when I was a student. I was more productive when I worked in the university library. |
Being a student is very different to being a worker who needs to produce something or they don't get paid. I find my mortgage keeps me productive wherever I am! |  |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 14:08 - Feb 10 with 761 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:54 - Feb 10 by BlueNomad |
I should have added that I did do a lot of wfh when I was a student. I was more productive when I worked in the university library. |
We’ve shut all the libraries, so that’s not going to be an answer  |  |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 14:29 - Feb 10 with 723 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:00 - Feb 10 by MattinLondon |
Not strange if he or his backers has cash invested in office space.
Do politicians have to disclose where they have investments in or where cash from their backers comes from? |
I’m sure he and Tice have disclosed all vested interests in the office rental business.
*cough*
“Richard Tice, a prominent figure in Reform UK and key ally of Farage, is a director of property investment companies (Quidnet REIT Ltd and Tisun Investments) that own and manage commercial office spaces.” | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 14:44 - Feb 10 with 696 views | Herbivore |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:26 - Feb 10 by Guthrum |
Another thing is this rubbish about productivity. Politicians trying to compare us with places like China where, even if you believe their Stakhanovised figures, the work environment is totally different to the West. Intense industry with few environmental controls, manned by labour migrating from rural areas, living in barracks and under such pressure that suicides are common (and probably under-reported). More like the worst visions of the 1850s than the 21st century.
Is that what we really want? |
It's not what we want but Reform and some of their backers would probably be up for it. |  |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 16:03 - Feb 10 with 586 views | Benters |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:41 - Feb 10 by bartyg |
Not worth giving Benters a second thought, you'd be forgiven for assuming he were wrong professionally. |
I like that.I can do that from home right ? |  |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 17:51 - Feb 10 with 493 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:12 - Feb 10 by DJR |
This is a great response to the racist attack on Turkish barbers.
https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/ [Post edited 10 Feb 12:12]
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I have a business in a small town on the outskirts of Glasgow. On the High Street, 5 Turkish barbers have opened since covid. All seem to have four of five members of staff sitting around talking and none ever seem to have customers.
Not sure how they have managed to stay in business after 5 years to be honest. That isn't racist. That's an observation.
Just to add that the council visited one of these [remises recenly and no one working there was the boss or had any idea who the owner/director was.
edit. see also vape shops and American candy stores. [Post edited 10 Feb 17:55]
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 17:51 - Feb 10 with 496 views | BlueBadger |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 14:44 - Feb 10 by Herbivore |
It's not what we want but Reform and some of their backers would probably be up for it. |
I suspect that a significant proportion of their voters would too, as long as it was hurting the 'right' people. |  |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 18:42 - Feb 10 with 432 views | DJR |
All I can say is that I've enjoyed claiming benefits whilst at home and only having to make contact with the DWP electronically.
I certainly won't be happy if I have to go into the (benefit) office once more. [Post edited 10 Feb 18:45]
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 18:50 - Feb 10 with 403 views | BrayBlue |
This from a man who employed his wife to, er, work from home! 🙄
Cheers,
JK |  | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 19:08 - Feb 10 with 374 views | BlueBadger |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 12:39 - Feb 10 by Blueschev |
I also think there's also an element of bashing the public sector in there below the surface too. Implying services are poor because the bloated public sector has all of it's staff working from home doing nothing. |
I tried working from home but Mrs Badger didn't like it,
ALL sorts got splashed over the sofa. | |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 19:14 - Feb 10 with 356 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 08:25 - Feb 10 by ElderGrizzly |
Basically all the lies Trump uses in the USA, which isn’t a surprise with Bannon and Thiel pulling the strings |
If he isn't selling us out to Russia, he is selling us out to the US instead!
I do hope a journalist challenges Farage with, "are you going to insist on Reform MPs working at their offices?" Followed up with some real data on how often he has held constituency surgeries and how often he has voted in parliament.
"Why do you think it's OK to not do your job at all and then say working from home is unproductive you lazy sponger?" |  |
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| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 19:32 - Feb 10 with 319 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 10:32 - Feb 10 by Benters |
Obvious isn’t it. |
Show your evidence/working on that pls.
Sits back and gets comfortable for the reply that will never come.
Same as anytime he is asked to justify or explain his throw away b/s lines
e.g. Starmer hates this country |  | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 19:35 - Feb 10 with 316 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 11:42 - Feb 10 by HarleydavidsonBlue |
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This is the intelligence level.Nige appeals to | | | |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 19:37 - Feb 10 with 307 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Reform's attack on workers' rights begins on 13:12 - Feb 10 by J2BLUE |
I hope you really enjoy it while they go after other people making their lives worse. The memories might comfort you when they come for you.
Unless of course you have several hundred quid a month you're happy to spend on health insurance just to stick it to other people? |
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