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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? 11:09 - Mar 18 with 2115 viewsjasondozzell

"Listen, let's be very clear about this, you are each a valued stakeholder in this breakfast and we will be relentless until you achieve the elite cereal you deserve."
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 11:12 - Mar 18 with 1782 viewsBseaBlue

'This household has no limits'

'Cereal Trading WILL be used effectively'

'We want the best cornflakes within the Stadium bowl'
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 11:13 - Mar 18 with 1783 viewsJ2BLUE

He's getting results. I don't care how he speaks.

Truly impaired.
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 11:14 - Mar 18 with 1770 viewsMattinLondon

Maybe not at breakfast but definitely if he goes to Hawksmoor.
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 11:16 - Mar 18 with 1748 viewsfarkenhell

"I know that you, egg, will strive to be the best version of yourself."

"I've said it many, many times before, but it never ceases to amaze me how this toast always comes together whenever I need it."
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 11:29 - Mar 18 with 1655 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Stakeholder(s) is common parlance in all kinds of industries. It's probably the least weird thing he says.

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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 11:31 - Mar 18 with 1643 viewsjasondozzell

Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 11:29 - Mar 18 by Cheltenham_Blue

Stakeholder(s) is common parlance in all kinds of industries. It's probably the least weird thing he says.

Are you bored?


No one really said stakeholders 25 years ago. Or at least not like they do today.

Someone far cleverer than me will have no doubt written about the mass adoption of corporate language into mainstream culture and what it means.
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 11:58 - Mar 18 with 1514 viewsEarls_Jeans

"The velux windows have been fantastic in giving me the oxygen I need to consume my breakfast"
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 12:04 - Mar 18 with 1482 viewsMarshalls_Mullet

Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 11:29 - Mar 18 by Cheltenham_Blue

Stakeholder(s) is common parlance in all kinds of industries. It's probably the least weird thing he says.

Are you bored?


Its such a corporate word, I try to avoid using it where possible.

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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 12:06 - Mar 18 with 1465 viewsWacko


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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 12:10 - Mar 18 with 1423 viewshomer_123

Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 11:16 - Mar 18 by farkenhell

"I know that you, egg, will strive to be the best version of yourself."

"I've said it many, many times before, but it never ceases to amaze me how this toast always comes together whenever I need it."


"I know that you, egg, will strive to be the best version of yourself."

If said egg is scrambled, poached, fried etc. at that point - then that statement is awfully wrong as the egg has failed.

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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 12:16 - Mar 18 with 1397 viewsHighgateBlue

Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 12:04 - Mar 18 by Marshalls_Mullet

Its such a corporate word, I try to avoid using it where possible.


I dislike it for two reasons. It seems to me that words used in public relations have two principal functions. One is to convey meaning, and one is to convey an image of the person saying it (the latter can sometimes obfuscate the former, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not).

In terms of conveying meaning, "stakeholders" just means anyone that has an interest in the decisions being made and processes being followed. It is intentionally obfuscatory in that it deliberately conflates (a) those who have an actual direct ownership stake, and (b) those who have some more nebulous interest.

In terms of conveying image, "stakeholders" conveys the idea that the speaker cares about everyone who could conceivably have an interest in the subject. It's good to care about everyone. However, in being so vaguely inclusive, the speaker can give very little confidence to the listener that the speaker cares about any specific group the right amount (or the amount that the listener thinks they should).

For example, if the head of a football club is talking about taking stakeholder opinion into account, whose opinion matters? Fans, TV broadcasters, sponsors, owners, regulatory bodies, landlords, local authorities, the local community?

Vague is not great, woolly is not great, but intentionally so is worse.

I do accept, however, that the job of a leader is to create an impression that we're all in this together and we need to row in the same direction, and that is sometimes served by pretending that everyone's interests are aligned, even when they might not be. That can create a lack of dissent, or proper checks and balances.

See also: making oneself Chairman in addition to Chief Executive.

I'm by no means anti-Ashton. He's done a good job, and everyone in a big job has strengths and weaknesses. But I dislike hypercorrective corporate speak, and I dislike a lack of checks and balances in any institution.
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 12:17 - Mar 18 with 1396 viewsVic

And as he steps out of the house and speaks to reporters - 'I'm so proud of the group, but we will be relentless and leave no stone unturned to keep improving and adding to it it we can.'

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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 12:25 - Mar 18 with 1345 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 12:16 - Mar 18 by HighgateBlue

I dislike it for two reasons. It seems to me that words used in public relations have two principal functions. One is to convey meaning, and one is to convey an image of the person saying it (the latter can sometimes obfuscate the former, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not).

In terms of conveying meaning, "stakeholders" just means anyone that has an interest in the decisions being made and processes being followed. It is intentionally obfuscatory in that it deliberately conflates (a) those who have an actual direct ownership stake, and (b) those who have some more nebulous interest.

In terms of conveying image, "stakeholders" conveys the idea that the speaker cares about everyone who could conceivably have an interest in the subject. It's good to care about everyone. However, in being so vaguely inclusive, the speaker can give very little confidence to the listener that the speaker cares about any specific group the right amount (or the amount that the listener thinks they should).

For example, if the head of a football club is talking about taking stakeholder opinion into account, whose opinion matters? Fans, TV broadcasters, sponsors, owners, regulatory bodies, landlords, local authorities, the local community?

Vague is not great, woolly is not great, but intentionally so is worse.

I do accept, however, that the job of a leader is to create an impression that we're all in this together and we need to row in the same direction, and that is sometimes served by pretending that everyone's interests are aligned, even when they might not be. That can create a lack of dissent, or proper checks and balances.

See also: making oneself Chairman in addition to Chief Executive.

I'm by no means anti-Ashton. He's done a good job, and everyone in a big job has strengths and weaknesses. But I dislike hypercorrective corporate speak, and I dislike a lack of checks and balances in any institution.


Surely "checks and balances" is corporate speak? Not to mention "rowing in the same direction"?!

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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 12:33 - Mar 18 with 1321 viewsGlasgowBlue

Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 11:16 - Mar 18 by farkenhell

"I know that you, egg, will strive to be the best version of yourself."

"I've said it many, many times before, but it never ceases to amaze me how this toast always comes together whenever I need it."


"I have broken through the egg shell and that’s really important because that gives us far better access and egress into the yolk. Allowing my toasted soldiers to become the best version of themselves".

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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 12:43 - Mar 18 with 1265 viewsDeano69

And do you think KM calls his family 'His Group'?

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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 12:43 - Mar 18 with 1269 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

IMO people get far too wound up about this. It's been commonplace parlance in the business world for decades (yes, 25 years ago and beyond).

What has changed is the Internet, and more people getting directly exposed to it. In the past, much of this nomenclature will have been filtered as it passes through multiple tiers of communication, and the language used modified / morphed from what was said at source. Now everyone has easy and instant access to the source, and it becomes unfiltered.
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 13:05 - Mar 18 with 1189 viewsSitfcB

Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 12:04 - Mar 18 by Marshalls_Mullet

Its such a corporate word, I try to avoid using it where possible.


He’s the least corporate person there is

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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 13:30 - Mar 18 with 1068 viewsrgp1

If the manager says ' you must think outside the box' does this mean our players will take random pot shots from 40 yards out?
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 14:40 - Mar 18 with 920 viewsRegencyBlue

I don’t like corporate speak much personally but the amount of stick Ashton gets about it is ridiculous!

Look at what has been achieved since he got here and compare it to what was happening, or rather not happening, under Evans.

I know what I prefer!
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 14:54 - Mar 18 with 877 viewsBseaBlue

Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 14:40 - Mar 18 by RegencyBlue

I don’t like corporate speak much personally but the amount of stick Ashton gets about it is ridiculous!

Look at what has been achieved since he got here and compare it to what was happening, or rather not happening, under Evans.

I know what I prefer!


I think people are just having a bit of a laugh here......... We all know what he has done to turn this football club around. No stone has been left unturned.
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 15:05 - Mar 18 with 858 viewsfarkenhell

Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 14:54 - Mar 18 by BseaBlue

I think people are just having a bit of a laugh here......... We all know what he has done to turn this football club around. No stone has been left unturned.


Relentless!
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 15:14 - Mar 18 with 835 viewsMattinLondon

Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 15:05 - Mar 18 by farkenhell

Relentless!


Not only has MS left no stone unturned but the very ecosystem of the club has improved as well.

He has created a community of living organic components with all of its interconnected matter interacting perfectly within the environment of this football club. Creating systems and energy that breaths oxygen within the said ecosystem.
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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 15:17 - Mar 18 with 826 viewsBlueandTruesince82

I scoff at the idea that Ashton eats breakfast, he mainlines cuggin Oil over night and grabs a mega thermos of the stuff for the day ahead on his way out. Thats it.

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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 15:50 - Mar 18 with 748 viewsBobbychase

Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 11:13 - Mar 18 by J2BLUE

He's getting results. I don't care how he speaks.


Indeed. He can carry as many coffee cups and use as many cliches as he likes given what he and Gamechanger have done for the club.

Seeing how Sheffield Wednesday have been destroyed by bad ownership at the weekend was a reminder how lucky we are.

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Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 15:57 - Mar 18 with 724 viewsElderGrizzly

Do you reckon Ashton says 'stakeholders' at the breakfast table? on 15:05 - Mar 18 by farkenhell

Relentless!


Has he finished that cup of coffee yet we see in every video?
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