| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? 18:25 - Mar 26 with 2342 views | Dubtractor |
How did he not foresee how it would play out?
And what was he hoping to achieve from it?
Sorry, appreciate this is another thread on this, but I think it is a different angle.
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:26 - Mar 26 with 1712 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
That's what gets me.
Thought he was smarter than this. He is all about optics and wanting positive noise early.
Must just be an ego thing. |  |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:27 - Mar 26 with 1667 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
The success he has had at ITFC has gone to his head, he thinks he is untouchable. |  | | |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:28 - Mar 26 with 1660 views | bartyg |
I don't even give him the benefit of the doubt and consider that he misread the situation now, given the lack of respect in any communication from MA and the club. Seems like a naked attempt to use the club to improve his personal connections and inflate his self importance. |  |
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| I think the worst part of it is gifting the 6 shirts with 10 on the back... on 18:29 - Mar 26 with 1623 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
A lunch is one thing, but the shirts actively advocate (on behalf of ITFC) Farage for PM. |  |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:29 - Mar 26 with 1617 views | Ewan_Oozami |
I have just wildly speculated on Ashton's motivation on another thread.... |  |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:30 - Mar 26 with 1596 views | Miaow |
He has caused reputational damage to the club and created unnecessary division among the supporters just after calling for togetherness as we approach the business end of the season.
And then doubled down.
What a moron. |  |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:30 - Mar 26 with 1579 views | bluelagos |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:27 - Mar 26 by SWLondonBlue93 |
The success he has had at ITFC has gone to his head, he thinks he is untouchable. |
His opinion of himself was always a lot more than his abilities. Any of his coffee videos show that.
He took in a lot of people, bullsh1tters do, they are very good at self promoting. But when there's nothing behind it, it's just a matter of time.
Vacuous doesn't get closer to describing him imho. |  |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:31 - Mar 26 with 1554 views | GlasgowBlue |
Hubris. |  |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:32 - Mar 26 with 1543 views | redrickstuhaart |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:30 - Mar 26 by bluelagos |
His opinion of himself was always a lot more than his abilities. Any of his coffee videos show that.
He took in a lot of people, bullsh1tters do, they are very good at self promoting. But when there's nothing behind it, it's just a matter of time.
Vacuous doesn't get closer to describing him imho. |
"bullsh^tters" do not achieve what he has.
Whether you like the style or not, it is really not tenable to say that there is nothing behind it. The club is transformed and he has led it. | |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:39 - Mar 26 with 1442 views | DanTheMan |
This is something I cannot understand.
Or why nobody told him that this was an insane idea. Maybe they did and he just didn't listen.
It's just so stupid that I cannot imagine the leaps or logic required to think this was a good idea. |  |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:40 - Mar 26 with 1407 views | bluebud |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:26 - Mar 26 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
That's what gets me.
Thought he was smarter than this. He is all about optics and wanting positive noise early.
Must just be an ego thing. |
...or he might be Chancellor in a few years ;-/ |  | | |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:49 - Mar 26 with 1342 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
Ashton is a salesman.
I think on one of his interviews he admitted he's not an educated man (didn't do A levels or go to Uni etc).
He's done remarkably well to go from U21 goalkeeper to CEO, but this is probably more to do with his communication skills and ego rather than intellect. | | | |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:51 - Mar 26 with 1315 views | backwaywhen |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:39 - Mar 26 by DanTheMan |
This is something I cannot understand.
Or why nobody told him that this was an insane idea. Maybe they did and he just didn't listen.
It's just so stupid that I cannot imagine the leaps or logic required to think this was a good idea. |
I would have invited him , can’t see a problem in all this , owning up is a little late , but nobody knows the reasons for that .
Storm in a tea cup . | | | |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:52 - Mar 26 with 1304 views | Dubtractor |
People say that this reaction is only this strong because it is Farage, but that's the point, it was always going to get this reaction because if who he is, of how divisive he is. How on earth did Ashton not realise that? | |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:52 - Mar 26 with 1302 views | _CliveBaker_ |
what was he hoping to achieve from it is the bit that gets me. I've been scratching my head wondering what the perceived benefit was going to be. I'm not saying it would make it right, but lets say we're declined permission for something and he decided to hold his nose and blow some smoke up the right people to get something away, you might think 'OK, I can see the 'why'. As I say it still doesn't mean its right on balance, but the 'why' is there.
I see no 'why'. No commercial benefit, nothing. Other than massaging his own ego perhaps. |  | | |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:53 - Mar 26 with 1292 views | TheMoralMajority |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:51 - Mar 26 by backwaywhen |
I would have invited him , can’t see a problem in all this , owning up is a little late , but nobody knows the reasons for that .
Storm in a tea cup . |
Oh, he's owned up? That's great! Can you point me to where that's happened?
Oh, that's right. He hasn't. They're still lying to us.
Glad you like being taken for a mug. I, for one, do not. |  |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:54 - Mar 26 with 1278 views | KBsSocks |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:32 - Mar 26 by redrickstuhaart |
"bullsh^tters" do not achieve what he has.
Whether you like the style or not, it is really not tenable to say that there is nothing behind it. The club is transformed and he has led it. |
BS-ers clearly do - look at who is in charge of various countries, and who has been in the recent past. A higher percentage of BS-ers than 25 years ago, I'd say. |  |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:56 - Mar 26 with 1243 views | MattinLondon |
He thought that he was meeting a man of influence and probably thought that he could get a lot from that meeting. His ego probably silenced all other noise telling him that that was a bad idea.
The fact that his tongue probably said too much is a betrayal to KM. |  | | |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 19:00 - Mar 26 with 1227 views | Vic |
I think I could have forgiven his misjudgement in hosting NF - even though a loathe the man and everything he stands for.
What has broken me is brazen, barefaced lies afterwards. Presumably he has lied to me and asked others to lie to me. I feel totally let down and used.
He’s done so much good and I’m sad that it’s ended like this. (Surely this is the end of him here isn’t it) |  |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 19:01 - Mar 26 with 1220 views | Radlett_blue |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:30 - Mar 26 by bluelagos |
His opinion of himself was always a lot more than his abilities. Any of his coffee videos show that.
He took in a lot of people, bullsh1tters do, they are very good at self promoting. But when there's nothing behind it, it's just a matter of time.
Vacuous doesn't get closer to describing him imho. |
Not long after Ashton was appointed, a friend of mine who is very well connected in the football world through the FA and also Watford FC (where Ashton was CEO), told me that the guy had a very poor reputation for integrity and honesty and told me to beware!
I trust and respect this friend so I'm not entirely surprised at what's happened, |  |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 19:04 - Mar 26 with 1196 views | Roburmsyenna |
its the sheer arrogance of the man, thinking he's got the whole ITFC crowd on his side and can do no wrong. No doubt he'll come out and bang on about the things HE has achieved since being at the club and where we were when he stepped in. The arrogance of just brushing this off and his silence on the matter speaks volumes. |  |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 19:06 - Mar 26 with 1167 views | FrimleyBlue |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:51 - Mar 26 by backwaywhen |
I would have invited him , can’t see a problem in all this , owning up is a little late , but nobody knows the reasons for that .
Storm in a tea cup . |
Why would you have invited him?
If you were ceo/chairman of a football club but wanted to meet him, would you not do it in your own time away from the company that employ you? |  |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 19:06 - Mar 26 with 1167 views | bluelagos |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:32 - Mar 26 by redrickstuhaart |
"bullsh^tters" do not achieve what he has.
Whether you like the style or not, it is really not tenable to say that there is nothing behind it. The club is transformed and he has led it. |
Peter principle. When people get promoted over their abilities.
He's shown this week he should be nowhere near a CEO position imho. | |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 08:32 - Mar 27 with 886 views | Dubtractor |
Reflecting a but more on this, it's the gifting of the Farage 10 shirts that tips me over the edge.
They were only ever going to be used to associate our club with promoting Farage, and there is a clearly political angle to it, with absolutely trashes the idea that we were apolitical.
Posting this here, rather than starting another thread on the whole affair. | |
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| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 08:35 - Mar 27 with 858 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| What on earth was Ashton thinking when organising this? on 18:26 - Mar 26 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
That's what gets me.
Thought he was smarter than this. He is all about optics and wanting positive noise early.
Must just be an ego thing. |
This ego angle is interesting.
How is meeting a controversial politician an ego boost? |  |
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