| This is just one example of why he has to go 16:32 - Mar 28 with 8720 views | jasondozzell | |  | | |  |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 09:01 - Mar 29 with 1397 views | Churchman |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:30 - Mar 28 by PhilTWTD | My thoughts are along the lines of most people's, I think. Totally unnecessary self-inflicted mess, should never have got involved with Reform in any shape or form, should never have allowed their social media team in. And then they made the situation even worse with the obfuscation and misrepresentation of what happened. As so often, the cover-up is probably causing as much if not more damage than the original offence. Apology clearly hasn't drawn a line under the matter as would have been the intention as it was vague and avoided addressing or answering any of the remaining questions. Among them, following James Pearce's message suggesting a meeting between MA and NF at some neutral venue, how the visit came about, whether there was subsequently an invite to the club. Why it was felt necessary to gift shirts, why a signed one was evidently requested. There's clearly been a breakdown in trust between the larger part of the fanbase, players, sponsors, staff and the wider community and the club's senior management and it's difficult to see how it will be restored. |
Thank you for posting this Phil. You are probably the closest of anyone posting on here to this and of course have to choose your words very carefully. Your first two paragraphs are as I see it from afar and questions are still to be answered. Regardless of any reasons, explanations and apologies, trust cannot ever be restored once broken. That particular line has been crossed, in my world. Obfuscation, misrepresentations? - deceit and lies. Even if you can get beyond the depth plumbing stupidity of allowing Farage and his henchmen anywhere near this football club, the way in which it was handled showed yawning incompetence and contempt for just about everybody bar themselves. One last time as this is my last comment on this. Ashton and his merry men are not ITFC. It is the supporters and wider community’s football club. They are employees, pure and simple. Part of MAs role as CEO is to promote and represent the club. The events of this week speak for themselves on that aspect. There’s no going back and I see only one outcome now. |  | |  |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 09:13 - Mar 29 with 1339 views | bluelagos |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 09:01 - Mar 29 by Churchman | Thank you for posting this Phil. You are probably the closest of anyone posting on here to this and of course have to choose your words very carefully. Your first two paragraphs are as I see it from afar and questions are still to be answered. Regardless of any reasons, explanations and apologies, trust cannot ever be restored once broken. That particular line has been crossed, in my world. Obfuscation, misrepresentations? - deceit and lies. Even if you can get beyond the depth plumbing stupidity of allowing Farage and his henchmen anywhere near this football club, the way in which it was handled showed yawning incompetence and contempt for just about everybody bar themselves. One last time as this is my last comment on this. Ashton and his merry men are not ITFC. It is the supporters and wider community’s football club. They are employees, pure and simple. Part of MAs role as CEO is to promote and represent the club. The events of this week speak for themselves on that aspect. There’s no going back and I see only one outcome now. |
Agree with all of that. Which means the club either act promptly, or it drags on until the owners finally sort it out. Two things mean he'll likely hang on til the summer imho. The fact the bosses are not local and thus decision making is that much harder. And the lack of an obvious person to hold the reigns should he get fired. The idea that Ashton is the man to put out the fire that he started, and then poured yet more petrol on...I know it's hard for some people to accept change but sometimes it's needed. |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 09:25 - Mar 29 with 1282 views | tcblue |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 09:01 - Mar 29 by Churchman | Thank you for posting this Phil. You are probably the closest of anyone posting on here to this and of course have to choose your words very carefully. Your first two paragraphs are as I see it from afar and questions are still to be answered. Regardless of any reasons, explanations and apologies, trust cannot ever be restored once broken. That particular line has been crossed, in my world. Obfuscation, misrepresentations? - deceit and lies. Even if you can get beyond the depth plumbing stupidity of allowing Farage and his henchmen anywhere near this football club, the way in which it was handled showed yawning incompetence and contempt for just about everybody bar themselves. One last time as this is my last comment on this. Ashton and his merry men are not ITFC. It is the supporters and wider community’s football club. They are employees, pure and simple. Part of MAs role as CEO is to promote and represent the club. The events of this week speak for themselves on that aspect. There’s no going back and I see only one outcome now. |
I agree with all of this BUT I'd also like to mention that this has unearthed and emboldened a large portion of unpleasantness, some of which actually is (at least ostensibly) incumbent in the fan base, which I personally was a lot happier being ignorant to. That's a genie that won't go back into the bottle |  | |  |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 10:22 - Mar 29 with 1202 views | Pinewoodblue |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 09:01 - Mar 29 by Churchman | Thank you for posting this Phil. You are probably the closest of anyone posting on here to this and of course have to choose your words very carefully. Your first two paragraphs are as I see it from afar and questions are still to be answered. Regardless of any reasons, explanations and apologies, trust cannot ever be restored once broken. That particular line has been crossed, in my world. Obfuscation, misrepresentations? - deceit and lies. Even if you can get beyond the depth plumbing stupidity of allowing Farage and his henchmen anywhere near this football club, the way in which it was handled showed yawning incompetence and contempt for just about everybody bar themselves. One last time as this is my last comment on this. Ashton and his merry men are not ITFC. It is the supporters and wider community’s football club. They are employees, pure and simple. Part of MAs role as CEO is to promote and represent the club. The events of this week speak for themselves on that aspect. There’s no going back and I see only one outcome now. |
Agree 100%. You cannot have a chairman /CEO who put his own interests before those of the organization that employs him. There can only be one outcome but timing must be right. It needs to be done well before Kieran’s pre match presser. The sooner we, as fans, can concentrate on what really matters the better. COYB |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 10:32 - Mar 29 with 1140 views | TheMoralMajority |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 02:33 - Mar 29 by Ryorry | "the obfuscation and misrepresentation of what happened. As so often, the cover-up is probably causing as much if not more damage than the original offence." It was MA's comment "I also understand that there are a number of mistruths out there on what's actually happened this week" that really got me - when all he actually needed to do was state the facts of what happened, then there wouldn't have been any 'mistruths'. It's not just the self-interest, the lies, the deviousness, the lack of integrity and foresight in thinking through the consequences to all concerned with the good name of ITFC of his actions - it's his sheer stupidity and lack of spine in not taking obvious, sensible measures. That alone makes him unfit to remain as CEO or Chair at this or any other decent club or organisation in my book. [Post edited 29 Mar 2:35]
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"It was MA's comment "I also understand that there are a number of mistruths out there on what's actually happened this week" that really got me" I am going to add to this, as I'm not sure it is a point that has been made. I would argue that of the "number of mistruths" that are out there, if they were to exist, then these would pale into insignificance compared to the outright lies that were fed from the club to the local media and to the wider fanbase. If you are going to hint at 'mistruths' then imho you need to: 1. State what they are 2. Explain why you thought that lying to the entire fanbase, and doubling down on it, was the best course of action. Ie justify your own "mistruths" (aka lies). Otherwise, why on earth should we believe anything he tells us about this, or anything again, ever? Unfortunately, the opportunity for that has now long past imho. [Post edited 29 Mar 10:35]
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 11:06 - Mar 29 with 1051 views | budgiebasher |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:30 - Mar 28 by PhilTWTD | My thoughts are along the lines of most people's, I think. Totally unnecessary self-inflicted mess, should never have got involved with Reform in any shape or form, should never have allowed their social media team in. And then they made the situation even worse with the obfuscation and misrepresentation of what happened. As so often, the cover-up is probably causing as much if not more damage than the original offence. Apology clearly hasn't drawn a line under the matter as would have been the intention as it was vague and avoided addressing or answering any of the remaining questions. Among them, following James Pearce's message suggesting a meeting between MA and NF at some neutral venue, how the visit came about, whether there was subsequently an invite to the club. Why it was felt necessary to gift shirts, why a signed one was evidently requested. There's clearly been a breakdown in trust between the larger part of the fanbase, players, sponsors, staff and the wider community and the club's senior management and it's difficult to see how it will be restored. |
Well said Phil. Ashton has allowed the ugly tick of Reform to use our Club as its host and it’s still attached (just ask Lucy Cobbold). Ashton needs to go for his deceit but the damage is done |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 11:33 - Mar 29 with 987 views | boysof1981 |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:30 - Mar 28 by PhilTWTD | My thoughts are along the lines of most people's, I think. Totally unnecessary self-inflicted mess, should never have got involved with Reform in any shape or form, should never have allowed their social media team in. And then they made the situation even worse with the obfuscation and misrepresentation of what happened. As so often, the cover-up is probably causing as much if not more damage than the original offence. Apology clearly hasn't drawn a line under the matter as would have been the intention as it was vague and avoided addressing or answering any of the remaining questions. Among them, following James Pearce's message suggesting a meeting between MA and NF at some neutral venue, how the visit came about, whether there was subsequently an invite to the club. Why it was felt necessary to gift shirts, why a signed one was evidently requested. There's clearly been a breakdown in trust between the larger part of the fanbase, players, sponsors, staff and the wider community and the club's senior management and it's difficult to see how it will be restored. |
With this post, will Ashton do something in regards to you and this site? As posted in a different thread Blue Action’s account of their meeting was an eye-opener to how he is behind closed doors. Can imagine his ego won’t allow for this and to be petty towards journalists, although I can’t see a single journalist standing in his corner on this |  | |  |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 11:43 - Mar 29 with 954 views | Tambu | You never seen an edited pic? |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 11:55 - Mar 29 with 909 views | pointofblue |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 00:00 - Mar 29 by TheMoralMajority | That's a tricky one. Whilst, 100% I want the local press to be holding the club to account, I hope they concentrate on the game with KMac. What is going on above him is not his battle. I'm sure the nationals will have other ideas. |
The problem for McKenna is whatever he says won't be the right thing for some people. If he supports Ashton then he'll be criticised for not standing up for those who are upset. If he criticises Ashton then he'll have others turn against him for not trying to injure the club. If he stays neutral - which is what I think he'll do - he'll be called out for sitting on the fence. He shouldn't be put in this position, yet the club have shown little respect for him and what he's achieved by allowing it to happen. [Post edited 29 Mar 12:13]
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| It won't be restored on 12:00 - Mar 29 with 879 views | Dyland |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:30 - Mar 28 by PhilTWTD | My thoughts are along the lines of most people's, I think. Totally unnecessary self-inflicted mess, should never have got involved with Reform in any shape or form, should never have allowed their social media team in. And then they made the situation even worse with the obfuscation and misrepresentation of what happened. As so often, the cover-up is probably causing as much if not more damage than the original offence. Apology clearly hasn't drawn a line under the matter as would have been the intention as it was vague and avoided addressing or answering any of the remaining questions. Among them, following James Pearce's message suggesting a meeting between MA and NF at some neutral venue, how the visit came about, whether there was subsequently an invite to the club. Why it was felt necessary to gift shirts, why a signed one was evidently requested. There's clearly been a breakdown in trust between the larger part of the fanbase, players, sponsors, staff and the wider community and the club's senior management and it's difficult to see how it will be restored. |
The owners are culpable as well. Unless Ashton is removed post haste the owners are in as deep as the sh1t he spouts. It's a fooking scandal. The fact the video and all the promotional stuff is still out there speaks volumes about OUR club's stance. Because there are plenty of legal grounds for cease and desist. I'm fooking seething, still. And all these fans saying who cares it's nothing it doesn't matter. What the fooking hell? Putin stooge boot lickers. And if not they are even worse. The people who do or say nothing enable the sh1t that is happening in the world. ITFC is a FOOTBALL CLUB. When we walk through those turnstiles we are one. Political and ideological differences are left outside. We cheer and cry as one. We hug strangers with polar opposite beliefs, just as we fight or argue with strangers we may have everything in common with without knowing. ITFC are endorsing a political party and while that continues I won't be supporting these egregious rotten owners and a megolomaniac CEO who is beneath contempt. GET THE FOOK OUT OF OUR CLUB. |  |
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| It won't be restored on 12:09 - Mar 29 with 819 views | Funge |
| It won't be restored on 12:00 - Mar 29 by Dyland | The owners are culpable as well. Unless Ashton is removed post haste the owners are in as deep as the sh1t he spouts. It's a fooking scandal. The fact the video and all the promotional stuff is still out there speaks volumes about OUR club's stance. Because there are plenty of legal grounds for cease and desist. I'm fooking seething, still. And all these fans saying who cares it's nothing it doesn't matter. What the fooking hell? Putin stooge boot lickers. And if not they are even worse. The people who do or say nothing enable the sh1t that is happening in the world. ITFC is a FOOTBALL CLUB. When we walk through those turnstiles we are one. Political and ideological differences are left outside. We cheer and cry as one. We hug strangers with polar opposite beliefs, just as we fight or argue with strangers we may have everything in common with without knowing. ITFC are endorsing a political party and while that continues I won't be supporting these egregious rotten owners and a megolomaniac CEO who is beneath contempt. GET THE FOOK OUT OF OUR CLUB. |
Bloody hell buh, you're coming in hot this morning. I agree, Ashton is nothing more than a salty tidemark stain at this point. [Post edited 29 Mar 12:31]
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| He's a fooking disgrace Fungers on 12:10 - Mar 29 with 805 views | Dyland |
| It won't be restored on 12:09 - Mar 29 by Funge | Bloody hell buh, you're coming in hot this morning. I agree, Ashton is nothing more than a salty tidemark stain at this point. [Post edited 29 Mar 12:31]
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I can't even bring myself to go now. You, Blooters, BA bods, etc. were right all along. As were those salty Brizzle fans. Foomin' ba. |  |
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| It won't be restored on 12:17 - Mar 29 with 769 views | pointofblue |
| It won't be restored on 12:00 - Mar 29 by Dyland | The owners are culpable as well. Unless Ashton is removed post haste the owners are in as deep as the sh1t he spouts. It's a fooking scandal. The fact the video and all the promotional stuff is still out there speaks volumes about OUR club's stance. Because there are plenty of legal grounds for cease and desist. I'm fooking seething, still. And all these fans saying who cares it's nothing it doesn't matter. What the fooking hell? Putin stooge boot lickers. And if not they are even worse. The people who do or say nothing enable the sh1t that is happening in the world. ITFC is a FOOTBALL CLUB. When we walk through those turnstiles we are one. Political and ideological differences are left outside. We cheer and cry as one. We hug strangers with polar opposite beliefs, just as we fight or argue with strangers we may have everything in common with without knowing. ITFC are endorsing a political party and while that continues I won't be supporting these egregious rotten owners and a megolomaniac CEO who is beneath contempt. GET THE FOOK OUT OF OUR CLUB. |
I can understand the desire for stability and a key part of the season but, at the very least, they could say they'll be relieving Ashton, Werhun and Nash of their posts at the end of the season. It's why I have a nagging doubts over the owners being involved somehow - either asking or signing off the visit. It'll be difficult for them to sack Ashton and co if they were working at the owners behest and/or approval. Unfortunately, to me, their silence appears to be another example of running from adversity. |  |
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| He's a fooking disgrace Fungers on 12:26 - Mar 29 with 733 views | Funge |
| He's a fooking disgrace Fungers on 12:10 - Mar 29 by Dyland | I can't even bring myself to go now. You, Blooters, BA bods, etc. were right all along. As were those salty Brizzle fans. Foomin' ba. |
Honestly bossman, I really wish I wasn't. 'I told you so' holding very little comfort at this point. |  | |  |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 14:27 - Mar 29 with 560 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 02:33 - Mar 29 by Ryorry | "the obfuscation and misrepresentation of what happened. As so often, the cover-up is probably causing as much if not more damage than the original offence." It was MA's comment "I also understand that there are a number of mistruths out there on what's actually happened this week" that really got me - when all he actually needed to do was state the facts of what happened, then there wouldn't have been any 'mistruths'. It's not just the self-interest, the lies, the deviousness, the lack of integrity and foresight in thinking through the consequences to all concerned with the good name of ITFC of his actions - it's his sheer stupidity and lack of spine in not taking obvious, sensible measures. That alone makes him unfit to remain as CEO or Chair at this or any other decent club or organisation in my book. [Post edited 29 Mar 2:35]
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You can't help think that the mistruths are all Ashton's! He certainly has done nothing to clarify them. Why is he calling them mistruths and not lies? |  |
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| He's a fooking disgrace Fungers on 14:32 - Mar 29 with 543 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| He's a fooking disgrace Fungers on 12:10 - Mar 29 by Dyland | I can't even bring myself to go now. You, Blooters, BA bods, etc. were right all along. As were those salty Brizzle fans. Foomin' ba. |
I was thinking the other day about whether this proves those Bristol City fans were right. They were wrong about him being a potentially successful CEO. But they were right to warn us about everything else. I apologise to those Bristol City fans who warned us for not believing them! |  |
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| It won't be restored on 14:35 - Mar 29 with 527 views | Ryorry |
| It won't be restored on 12:00 - Mar 29 by Dyland | The owners are culpable as well. Unless Ashton is removed post haste the owners are in as deep as the sh1t he spouts. It's a fooking scandal. The fact the video and all the promotional stuff is still out there speaks volumes about OUR club's stance. Because there are plenty of legal grounds for cease and desist. I'm fooking seething, still. And all these fans saying who cares it's nothing it doesn't matter. What the fooking hell? Putin stooge boot lickers. And if not they are even worse. The people who do or say nothing enable the sh1t that is happening in the world. ITFC is a FOOTBALL CLUB. When we walk through those turnstiles we are one. Political and ideological differences are left outside. We cheer and cry as one. We hug strangers with polar opposite beliefs, just as we fight or argue with strangers we may have everything in common with without knowing. ITFC are endorsing a political party and while that continues I won't be supporting these egregious rotten owners and a megolomaniac CEO who is beneath contempt. GET THE FOOK OUT OF OUR CLUB. |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 14:36 - Mar 29 with 524 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 23:30 - Mar 28 by PhilTWTD | My thoughts are along the lines of most people's, I think. Totally unnecessary self-inflicted mess, should never have got involved with Reform in any shape or form, should never have allowed their social media team in. And then they made the situation even worse with the obfuscation and misrepresentation of what happened. As so often, the cover-up is probably causing as much if not more damage than the original offence. Apology clearly hasn't drawn a line under the matter as would have been the intention as it was vague and avoided addressing or answering any of the remaining questions. Among them, following James Pearce's message suggesting a meeting between MA and NF at some neutral venue, how the visit came about, whether there was subsequently an invite to the club. Why it was felt necessary to gift shirts, why a signed one was evidently requested. There's clearly been a breakdown in trust between the larger part of the fanbase, players, sponsors, staff and the wider community and the club's senior management and it's difficult to see how it will be restored. |
Thanks Phil for sharing your thoughts. I hope doing so cause you no issues with the club. For what it's worth, I get the feeling the club generally is in line with your thoughts here too with a few individuals (Ashton most notably) being the outlier(s). This is also why I believe Ashton is on borrowed time. I don't expect him to be here much longer. I also hadn't connected Farage's initials with his ideology until I read your post. Thanks for that! |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 15:13 - Mar 29 with 470 views | bluelagos |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 11:33 - Mar 29 by boysof1981 | With this post, will Ashton do something in regards to you and this site? As posted in a different thread Blue Action’s account of their meeting was an eye-opener to how he is behind closed doors. Can imagine his ego won’t allow for this and to be petty towards journalists, although I can’t see a single journalist standing in his corner on this |
Whether he wants to, god knows - but Ashton isn't stupid (Did I say that?) - he'd know any action against BA or Phil would in effect unleash an awful lot of anger in his direction. He is toast imho - and will be doing (if sensible) all he can to ensure an exit where he leaves with some dignity, and a chance to stay in the industry. Going to war with fans or journalists wouldn't help him in that respect. Someone previously mentioned the power dynamics in his relationships have changed - he is damaged goods and holds little sway/credibility with anyone. IF people firmly believe his days are numbered - he'll do no more than limp on until his exit is confirmed. |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 15:19 - Mar 29 with 442 views | nrb1985 |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 15:13 - Mar 29 by bluelagos | Whether he wants to, god knows - but Ashton isn't stupid (Did I say that?) - he'd know any action against BA or Phil would in effect unleash an awful lot of anger in his direction. He is toast imho - and will be doing (if sensible) all he can to ensure an exit where he leaves with some dignity, and a chance to stay in the industry. Going to war with fans or journalists wouldn't help him in that respect. Someone previously mentioned the power dynamics in his relationships have changed - he is damaged goods and holds little sway/credibility with anyone. IF people firmly believe his days are numbered - he'll do no more than limp on until his exit is confirmed. |
You make a good point about him staying in the industry after this - it is such a farcical SNAFU I still can't get my head around it however many days we are later. He is now surely damaged goods. I speculated on another thread but hopefully once he gets his marching orders, what odds he ends up on GB News at some point blubbing about being cancelled? I'd let him keep his shares, make him sign a NDA and tell him to fck off tomorrow if it was my business personally. |  | |  |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 15:25 - Mar 29 with 428 views | bluelagos |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 15:19 - Mar 29 by nrb1985 | You make a good point about him staying in the industry after this - it is such a farcical SNAFU I still can't get my head around it however many days we are later. He is now surely damaged goods. I speculated on another thread but hopefully once he gets his marching orders, what odds he ends up on GB News at some point blubbing about being cancelled? I'd let him keep his shares, make him sign a NDA and tell him to fck off tomorrow if it was my business personally. |
Think it was Guthrum who pointed out the issue of who holds the reigns in the meantime - which is a fair challenge. But for me, if someone is damaging your business - and has the potential to do more damage by staying around - then absolutely you get them out the door asap. Does anyone currently think it will be easier signing players (hopefully after promotion) with Ashton still in post? It's for the birds. He's damaged our club's image and standing - and if people are ok with that, that's for them. |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 15:27 - Mar 29 with 406 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 15:25 - Mar 29 by bluelagos | Think it was Guthrum who pointed out the issue of who holds the reigns in the meantime - which is a fair challenge. But for me, if someone is damaging your business - and has the potential to do more damage by staying around - then absolutely you get them out the door asap. Does anyone currently think it will be easier signing players (hopefully after promotion) with Ashton still in post? It's for the birds. He's damaged our club's image and standing - and if people are ok with that, that's for them. |
If there is no contingency for someone to hold the reigns should the current CEO become suddenly unavailable, that is a failing of the ownership and all the more reason to have a chairman in place. They need to appoint both a chairman and a new CEO as soon as is reasonably practicable (bearing in mind they are essential to appoint well). |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 15:28 - Mar 29 with 402 views | FrimleyBlue |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 15:27 - Mar 29 by Nthsuffolkblue | If there is no contingency for someone to hold the reigns should the current CEO become suddenly unavailable, that is a failing of the ownership and all the more reason to have a chairman in place. They need to appoint both a chairman and a new CEO as soon as is reasonably practicable (bearing in mind they are essential to appoint well). |
Oh alright. I was on the fence. But I'll take over as chairman Now who'd like to be ceo. |  |
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| This is just one example of why he has to go on 15:37 - Mar 29 with 366 views | urbanpenguin |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 15:28 - Mar 29 by FrimleyBlue | Oh alright. I was on the fence. But I'll take over as chairman Now who'd like to be ceo. |
I'm currently acting CEO for a national charity, while my colleague is on maternity leave. Nothing has burnt down yet, we've got some big structural things happening and I'm overseeing the construction of an 800m² art gallery near Tate Modern that opens in may. AND I've not invited Farage into the organisation. I'm happy to give it a go. |  | |  |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 15:49 - Mar 29 with 327 views | TheMoralMajority |
| This is just one example of why he has to go on 15:25 - Mar 29 by bluelagos | Think it was Guthrum who pointed out the issue of who holds the reigns in the meantime - which is a fair challenge. But for me, if someone is damaging your business - and has the potential to do more damage by staying around - then absolutely you get them out the door asap. Does anyone currently think it will be easier signing players (hopefully after promotion) with Ashton still in post? It's for the birds. He's damaged our club's image and standing - and if people are ok with that, that's for them. |
It's ok, the Chairman can take over in the interim. It can be a Putin/Medvedev type situation with Ashton and Werhurn swapping roles every 4 years. |  |
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