| sadly they still live among us 23:59 - Jul 12 with 4058 views | Woolfenthen |
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| sadly they still live among us on 00:06 - Jul 13 with 2939 views | Guthrum |
The compassion of it. |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 00:38 - Jul 13 with 2859 views | gainsboroughblue |
Yes, because letting 60 mph traffic hurtle directly beside someone in a severe mental health crisis is a brilliant idea. I'm sure the emergency services will consult Sandy's travel schedule next time they try to save a life.
I have a perfect view of the bridge from mine and things seemed to be open up again around 9pm. Hopefully, the girl is safe and getting the help she needs. [Post edited 13 Jul 0:38]
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| sadly they still live among us on 00:51 - Jul 13 with 2815 views | BlueBadger |
| sadly they still live among us on 00:06 - Jul 13 by Guthrum |
The compassion of it. |
What's the odds the rest of her profile is riddled with 'be kind' memes? |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 06:14 - Jul 13 with 2627 views | bluelagos |
A similar line I recall Therese Coffee taking after a previous incident when she criticised the police for closing the bridge as they talked down a young girl.
As I said at the time, I am not slow to criticise the police if I feel they have messed up but helping a young vulnerable and desperate person is something they should be rightly applauded for. Without reservation.
The person involved will likely have parents, siblings, friends and the idea that the emergency authorities shouldn't be given all the resources needed to help is genuinely baffling. (Including time, peace and quiet for a much needed conversation, imagine trying to calm a desperate young girl as lorries barrel past at 60mph)
Let the experts do what they do and if you want to express your frustration, express it at the state of our mental health support that has ultimately not been adequate in helping this young person.
Hope it ended well yesterday and the girl gets the help she needs. |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 06:57 - Jul 13 with 2480 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
I think the frustration people have is that closing the road affects tens of thousands of people (if not more), just to help one person. Personally I don’t think enough is done to stop people going up there in the first place. It seems to be happening a lot more often these days. |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 07:00 - Jul 13 with 2472 views | Plums |
| sadly they still live among us on 00:06 - Jul 13 by Guthrum |
The compassion of it. |
I left Twitter a few years back but that username rings a bell. Is she the brexit loudmouth who subsequently complained it had ruined her seafood business?
If so, her judgment clearly hasn't improved. |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 07:05 - Jul 13 with 2446 views | Mullet |
| sadly they still live among us on 07:00 - Jul 13 by Plums |
I left Twitter a few years back but that username rings a bell. Is she the brexit loudmouth who subsequently complained it had ruined her seafood business?
If so, her judgment clearly hasn't improved. |
She’s a Londoner who moved to Suffolk and seems to think she represents the county. Shes an unhinged and nasty piece of work.
Found “fans” by saying the most deplorable stuff she can for attention. |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 07:16 - Jul 13 with 2372 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| sadly they still live among us on 06:57 - Jul 13 by ThatMuhrenCross |
I think the frustration people have is that closing the road affects tens of thousands of people (if not more), just to help one person. Personally I don’t think enough is done to stop people going up there in the first place. It seems to be happening a lot more often these days. |
Tens of thousands (if it is that many) who are going to be a bit late... verses one person who is so distraught they want to kill themselves.
"Just" to help one person. FFS. |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 07:17 - Jul 13 with 2355 views | Keno |
| sadly they still live among us on 07:16 - Jul 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Tens of thousands (if it is that many) who are going to be a bit late... verses one person who is so distraught they want to kill themselves.
"Just" to help one person. FFS. |
^^^THIS^^^
tens of thousands times |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 07:28 - Jul 13 with 2299 views | NthQldITFC |
| sadly they still live among us on 07:05 - Jul 13 by Mullet |
She’s a Londoner who moved to Suffolk and seems to think she represents the county. Shes an unhinged and nasty piece of work.
Found “fans” by saying the most deplorable stuff she can for attention. |
Looks like she's just copied it straight out of her Ladybird 'My First Little Book Of Racism And Other Forms Of Moronic Intolerance' by the look of her Twitter posts. |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 08:00 - Jul 13 with 2185 views | noggin |
| sadly they still live among us on 06:14 - Jul 13 by bluelagos |
A similar line I recall Therese Coffee taking after a previous incident when she criticised the police for closing the bridge as they talked down a young girl.
As I said at the time, I am not slow to criticise the police if I feel they have messed up but helping a young vulnerable and desperate person is something they should be rightly applauded for. Without reservation.
The person involved will likely have parents, siblings, friends and the idea that the emergency authorities shouldn't be given all the resources needed to help is genuinely baffling. (Including time, peace and quiet for a much needed conversation, imagine trying to calm a desperate young girl as lorries barrel past at 60mph)
Let the experts do what they do and if you want to express your frustration, express it at the state of our mental health support that has ultimately not been adequate in helping this young person.
Hope it ended well yesterday and the girl gets the help she needs. |
About 25 years ago, I attended a similar incident on Hammersmith bridge. A very famous TV personality was angry about being held up when police closed the road. He genuinely said "Do you know who I am" when told he would have to wait. |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 08:01 - Jul 13 with 2189 views | Guthrum |
| sadly they still live among us on 06:57 - Jul 13 by ThatMuhrenCross |
I think the frustration people have is that closing the road affects tens of thousands of people (if not more), just to help one person. Personally I don’t think enough is done to stop people going up there in the first place. It seems to be happening a lot more often these days. |
However, that would involve expenditure (on barriers or better mental health provision), which the same kind of people do not want to pay for (hence the loud support for low-tax, small-state Reform). Presumably so they can have a noce big car to drive across the bridge in. | |
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| sadly they still live among us on 09:17 - Jul 13 with 1890 views | Bluish |
| sadly they still live among us on 00:51 - Jul 13 by BlueBadger |
What's the odds the rest of her profile is riddled with 'be kind' memes? |
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| sadly they still live among us on 09:24 - Jul 13 with 1841 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
| sadly they still live among us on 07:16 - Jul 13 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Tens of thousands (if it is that many) who are going to be a bit late... verses one person who is so distraught they want to kill themselves.
"Just" to help one person. FFS. |
It will easily be in the tens of thousands. All the businesses that use the Port of Felixstowe, all the roads throughout Ipswich that become gridlocked, yes, all the people that will be late to work.
What about someone who urgently needs to get to the hospital, a pregnant woman going into labour? What about the person who has a make or break meeting scheduled for their business, and now ends up losing everything? What about families with neurodiverse children in the back seat who could really struggle with the situation? The list goes on.
Click the down arrow all you like and say I'm not compassionate, but I'm deeply compassionate - compassionate for the many, many people that suffer when a situation like this happens. | |
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| sadly they still live among us on 09:25 - Jul 13 with 1838 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| sadly they still live among us on 08:00 - Jul 13 by noggin |
About 25 years ago, I attended a similar incident on Hammersmith bridge. A very famous TV personality was angry about being held up when police closed the road. He genuinely said "Do you know who I am" when told he would have to wait. |
“Why? Don’t you know?” |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 09:27 - Jul 13 with 1829 views | homer_123 |
| sadly they still live among us on 09:25 - Jul 13 by Cheltenham_Blue |
“Why? Don’t you know?” |
Ronnie Pickering? |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 09:30 - Jul 13 with 1816 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| sadly they still live among us on 09:24 - Jul 13 by ThatMuhrenCross |
It will easily be in the tens of thousands. All the businesses that use the Port of Felixstowe, all the roads throughout Ipswich that become gridlocked, yes, all the people that will be late to work.
What about someone who urgently needs to get to the hospital, a pregnant woman going into labour? What about the person who has a make or break meeting scheduled for their business, and now ends up losing everything? What about families with neurodiverse children in the back seat who could really struggle with the situation? The list goes on.
Click the down arrow all you like and say I'm not compassionate, but I'm deeply compassionate - compassionate for the many, many people that suffer when a situation like this happens. |
Why is their “suffering” more important than a person in distress?
How much money needs to be lost before it’s better to just let them jump?
You posted an abhorrent reply and then doubled down. | |
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| sadly they still live among us on 09:31 - Jul 13 with 1809 views | baxterbasics |
Maybe if they get on with the Northern bypass, we can focus on the compassion without overly inconveniencing half of Suffolk.
Suicide is by it's very nature a selfish act though. I say that with pretty close to home experience.
Having said that I still hope the individual concerned is still with us and getting the help they need. |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 09:35 - Jul 13 with 1775 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
| sadly they still live among us on 09:30 - Jul 13 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Why is their “suffering” more important than a person in distress?
How much money needs to be lost before it’s better to just let them jump?
You posted an abhorrent reply and then doubled down. |
Abhorrent because I care for thousands of people's well-being?
Maybe the person who loses everything is the next to jump. Does his life not matter?
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| sadly they still live among us on 09:38 - Jul 13 with 1741 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| sadly they still live among us on 09:35 - Jul 13 by ThatMuhrenCross |
Abhorrent because I care for thousands of people's well-being?
Maybe the person who loses everything is the next to jump. Does his life not matter?
Ok mate. |
No. Abhorrent because your callousness is beyond disgusting.
You’d never be my mate.
Get on the div list. | |
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| sadly they still live among us on 09:43 - Jul 13 with 1695 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
| sadly they still live among us on 09:38 - Jul 13 by Cheltenham_Blue |
No. Abhorrent because your callousness is beyond disgusting.
You’d never be my mate.
Get on the div list. |
It's not callousness, it's an ability to think more deeply and more critically and not see a situation as so black and white, something you would appear to lack or are simply not capable of.
I bet you love to shout "be kind" - but only for the causes that suit you, of course. | |
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| sadly they still live among us on 09:50 - Jul 13 with 1671 views | bsw72 |
| sadly they still live among us on 06:57 - Jul 13 by ThatMuhrenCross |
I think the frustration people have is that closing the road affects tens of thousands of people (if not more), just to help one person. Personally I don’t think enough is done to stop people going up there in the first place. It seems to be happening a lot more often these days. |
I guess it will depend on how much we value a life over other things.
Worth noting that should the police be aware and leave the road open, and sadly the individual takes their life and when doing so causes further injury and potential deaths to other road users, it leads to yet more harm and also opens the police and authorities up for legal action.
None of these things are black and white, and all of it of frankly awful. |  | | |
| sadly they still live among us on 10:04 - Jul 13 with 1546 views | Ryorry |
| sadly they still live among us on 09:50 - Jul 13 by bsw72 |
I guess it will depend on how much we value a life over other things.
Worth noting that should the police be aware and leave the road open, and sadly the individual takes their life and when doing so causes further injury and potential deaths to other road users, it leads to yet more harm and also opens the police and authorities up for legal action.
None of these things are black and white, and all of it of frankly awful. |
The problem is that fundamentally addressing mental health issues amongst the population generally is long term, requiring joined up thinking; whereas immediate help as was required there poses such conflicting issues (such as TM’s reasonable point re people urgently needing to get to a hospital), that someone’s going to suffer in the short term whatever’s done. |  |
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| sadly they still live among us on 10:10 - Jul 13 with 1519 views | bsw72 |
| sadly they still live among us on 09:43 - Jul 13 by ThatMuhrenCross |
It's not callousness, it's an ability to think more deeply and more critically and not see a situation as so black and white, something you would appear to lack or are simply not capable of.
I bet you love to shout "be kind" - but only for the causes that suit you, of course. |
I was not going to comment, but having been "on the way to that bridge" 15 years ago before intervention, I cannot let this go.
I get why people are frustrated, and you’re right that closures can ripple out and make a lot of people’s day genuinely hard. But if you’re going to call this “thinking more deeply and critically”, it’s worth being a bit more consistent about how you’re weighing things.
A lot of what you list (labour, someone missing urgent hospital care, a business collapsing, neurodiverse kids melting down) is possible and some of it has mitigations (ambulance routes, police traffic management, diversions). The person on the bridge isn’t hypothetical; it’s a real, known individual in immediate danger. If we’re doing “not black and white”, we should be careful not to stack one side with worst‑case anecdotes while brushing off the other as “just one person”.
Also, saying “tens of thousands are affected just to help one” isn’t a neutral observation, it quietly turns into a moral claim: that a life becomes negotiable once enough people are delayed. If that’s your view, fine, but then you should be willing to own the awkward follow-on questions:
- What’s the threshold?
- How many delayed journeys makes a preventable death acceptable?
-Who gets to decide that, and by what rule?
And “compassion for the many” can be real but it gets shaky if it depends on treating the one person as an acceptable write-off because they’re disruptive. Most people stuck in traffic are stressed, late and inconvenienced; the person on the bridge may be minutes from dying. Those aren’t the same kind of “harm”, even if both matter.
On the “more should be done to stop people getting up there” point I agree fully. Better prevention is a good argument (barriers, design, patrols, mental health support). But it doesn’t really answer what we do in the future when someone’s up there now.
Lastly, the “you’re not capable” / “be kind” stuff just sounds like trying to win the argument by putting down and not by backing your position. If your view is as deeply thought as you say, it should stand up without the personal digs.
Genuinely curious: do you actually believe there are times we should not close the road / intervene because the disruption is “too big”? If yes, where’s that line and how do you stop it being used mainly against the most inconvenient or stigmatised people? | | | |
| sadly they still live among us on 10:22 - Jul 13 with 1429 views | Benters |
| sadly they still live among us on 09:24 - Jul 13 by ThatMuhrenCross |
It will easily be in the tens of thousands. All the businesses that use the Port of Felixstowe, all the roads throughout Ipswich that become gridlocked, yes, all the people that will be late to work.
What about someone who urgently needs to get to the hospital, a pregnant woman going into labour? What about the person who has a make or break meeting scheduled for their business, and now ends up losing everything? What about families with neurodiverse children in the back seat who could really struggle with the situation? The list goes on.
Click the down arrow all you like and say I'm not compassionate, but I'm deeply compassionate - compassionate for the many, many people that suffer when a situation like this happens. |
A similar thing happened on the A12 earlier in the year loads of people missed Hospital appointments etc.
I know they have to do something to help the poor person in question,but why not keep the traffic moving at say 10-20 mph ? |  |
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