| Who else would have been good under KM? 07:22 - Mar 9 with 2386 views | wkj |
Funny old season really - two players who were on many people's bin list are now some of the most dependable in the squad. That is, Jackson and Janoi. Granted, Janoi was trusted by the demolition man - I don't think many saw Jackson ever featuring this season.
It makes me wonder who else that previous management convinced us were useless, but in actual fact may have been key players with a tweaked system.
Maybe Troy Parrott, who I think would have been an excellent player under KM, certainly doing the biz at MKD. |  |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 07:28 - Mar 9 with 2103 views | FrimleyBlue |
I want to see if he can save Dobras career before he ends up In non league.
Lankester is another one I'd have been intrigued to see under KM guidance.
What will be interesting is next season.. what version of Edwards do we see. |  |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 07:29 - Mar 9 with 2095 views | itfcjoe |
Troy Parrott scored his first goal since September last night so not sure he’s doing brilliantly…..but do agree with general point that how hard he works would be good in this system
I don’t think there’s a player he wouldn’t have improved who was released last year, I think someone like Coke Skuse would have been good under him as just someone that could be used in certain games.
Obviously players like Downes and Dozzell would have excelled, Downes especially. |  |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 07:36 - Mar 9 with 2038 views | wkj |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 07:29 - Mar 9 by itfcjoe |
Troy Parrott scored his first goal since September last night so not sure he’s doing brilliantly…..but do agree with general point that how hard he works would be good in this system
I don’t think there’s a player he wouldn’t have improved who was released last year, I think someone like Coke Skuse would have been good under him as just someone that could be used in certain games.
Obviously players like Downes and Dozzell would have excelled, Downes especially. |
AIye TP isn't exactly a 180 from last year, though he does seem to look a different player, likes dragging players around and breaking up the shape of the defense in the final third. That is one of the reasons why Jackson is great in a top-heavy system too, even out on the left he's stretched gaps in opposition defenses leaving channels to exploit, even if he's not on the score sheet. | |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 07:42 - Mar 9 with 1996 views | SheffordBlue |
I wonder if Jack Lankester might have kicked on under McKenna. |  |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 07:53 - Mar 9 with 1934 views | norfsufblue |
To be honest, I think it's the ones coming through the U23s we should be talking about now, they are obviously very competitive at their current level so hopefully he'll find a few gems there, my hope it Cameron Humphreys will come more into the reckoning and the young Baggott may find himself being called upon now. [Post edited 9 Mar 2022 8:05]
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:09 - Mar 9 with 1841 views | tractordownsouth |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 07:28 - Mar 9 by FrimleyBlue |
I want to see if he can save Dobras career before he ends up In non league.
Lankester is another one I'd have been intrigued to see under KM guidance.
What will be interesting is next season.. what version of Edwards do we see. |
I struggle to see where Dobra fits in with this system. Someone like Kyle Edwards could be easily converted from a winger to a wing-back but not sure Dobra has that skill set. Maybe as a number 10? Hopefully he can manage it, but he's going to have his work cut out to get in to the squad. |  |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:21 - Mar 9 with 1778 views | Darth_Koont |
Jackson has been very good but he’s always been capable of playing well when we play him to his strengths as a wide attacker rather than exposing his weaknesses as a central striker.
I think he’s most suited to us having fewer in attack and being tasked with running into space out wide or behind the defence.
On the whole though, I’m not sure what the future holds for him and the others. I still think we haven’t really got it right in the attacking third and are generally a bit too hit and miss from game to game.
So whatever happens this season, I feel we’ll have a rethink or at least try to bring in a couple of strikers who can give us more of a focal point in attack. Although I think Jackson will still be very useful as that wide forward – so it’s more likely Norwood, Bonne and Pigott will be reappraised. |  |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:24 - Mar 9 with 1752 views | Fixed_It |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:09 - Mar 9 by tractordownsouth |
I struggle to see where Dobra fits in with this system. Someone like Kyle Edwards could be easily converted from a winger to a wing-back but not sure Dobra has that skill set. Maybe as a number 10? Hopefully he can manage it, but he's going to have his work cut out to get in to the squad. |
I'm afraid Dobra may have missed the boat. He should have been able to establish himself in the (poor) Col Utd team and hasn't. He undoubtedly has talent, but lacks important ingredients to his game. |  |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:30 - Mar 9 with 1696 views | franz_tyson |
I’d rather look forward than backwards. Downes and Dozzell moved upwards so good luck to them.
There’s no guarantee how they’d get on or fit in. Downes was our best player two years ago but in an injury-hit season wasn’t that great last year..
Likely he wanted to move up a league whether McKenna, Cook or Lambert was at the helm. Why do we have to have 5-6 academy players in our team to be satisfied? Are we trying to replicate Man U’s Class of 93? It’s natural that good young players move up and we should see it as a good, healthy thing and not pine for them.
Personally, I really like our players a lot more compared to last year. Not slagging those off but players like Burns, Morsy, Aluko and others mean more to me than a year ago. And I don’t care if they weren’t brought through by the academy. A strong first team will benefit the academy in raising standards even if we see less academy players make debuts. | | | |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:31 - Mar 9 with 1686 views | Garv |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:24 - Mar 9 by Fixed_It |
I'm afraid Dobra may have missed the boat. He should have been able to establish himself in the (poor) Col Utd team and hasn't. He undoubtedly has talent, but lacks important ingredients to his game. |
Should he though? I get where you're coming from because he's a League One player playing in League Two, but that Col U side is a complete shower. Is that really a good environment for him to thrive in right now?
Don't know what his contract situ is but I'm sure he'll come back and be worked with. |  |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:32 - Mar 9 with 1684 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 07:29 - Mar 9 by itfcjoe |
Troy Parrott scored his first goal since September last night so not sure he’s doing brilliantly…..but do agree with general point that how hard he works would be good in this system
I don’t think there’s a player he wouldn’t have improved who was released last year, I think someone like Coke Skuse would have been good under him as just someone that could be used in certain games.
Obviously players like Downes and Dozzell would have excelled, Downes especially. |
Downes for sure. Dozzell, more than likely. But Cole Skuse?
Lot of time for you Joe, but not sure saying that Skuse would have excelled under KM is something I agree with. He was past it 3/4 years ago. |  | | |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:36 - Mar 9 with 1639 views | NthQldITFC |
Batistuta and Graham Harbey.
Nolan probably. |  |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:47 - Mar 9 with 1566 views | itfcjoe |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:32 - Mar 9 by OsborneOneNil |
Downes for sure. Dozzell, more than likely. But Cole Skuse?
Lot of time for you Joe, but not sure saying that Skuse would have excelled under KM is something I agree with. He was past it 3/4 years ago. |
I think there is a chasm between saying what I said and that he would have 'excelled' | |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:50 - Mar 9 with 1548 views | itfcjoe |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 07:36 - Mar 9 by wkj |
AIye TP isn't exactly a 180 from last year, though he does seem to look a different player, likes dragging players around and breaking up the shape of the defense in the final third. That is one of the reasons why Jackson is great in a top-heavy system too, even out on the left he's stretched gaps in opposition defenses leaving channels to exploit, even if he's not on the score sheet. |
I think the key thing Jackson has is the Premier League physicality that McKenna is used to, would be interested to know the stats but just from the eye test he completes so many 'high intensity sprints' and covers so much ground at such pace when pressing.
As you move up the leagues the physicality is probably the biggest difference, when some on here mention Jack Lankester, as much as I liked him as a footballer, I'm not sure he'd have been able to cope with the physical demands of McKenna's football - it's mad to see someone like Thompson struggling physically bearing in mind he has been in the PL - we are playing such high energy football off the ball. | |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:58 - Mar 9 with 1487 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:50 - Mar 9 by itfcjoe |
I think the key thing Jackson has is the Premier League physicality that McKenna is used to, would be interested to know the stats but just from the eye test he completes so many 'high intensity sprints' and covers so much ground at such pace when pressing.
As you move up the leagues the physicality is probably the biggest difference, when some on here mention Jack Lankester, as much as I liked him as a footballer, I'm not sure he'd have been able to cope with the physical demands of McKenna's football - it's mad to see someone like Thompson struggling physically bearing in mind he has been in the PL - we are playing such high energy football off the ball. |
Interesting you say that as someone told me literally that several weeks ago - Jackson has Premier League running/sprint intensity stats. Apparently McKenna couldn't believe the stats considering he'd barely played first team games for so long up to him coming in. A testament to his professionalism and how he was looking after himself. | | | |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 09:09 - Mar 9 with 1419 views | davblue |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:58 - Mar 9 by tractorboy1978 |
Interesting you say that as someone told me literally that several weeks ago - Jackson has Premier League running/sprint intensity stats. Apparently McKenna couldn't believe the stats considering he'd barely played first team games for so long up to him coming in. A testament to his professionalism and how he was looking after himself. |
you would think he's in line to get a new contract given McKenna clearly rates him very highly. What a turnaround, big respect to Kayden and McKenna.
I don't particularly rate Jackson as footballer as in his technical skillset but he's doing a fantastic job for us currently. |  | | |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 09:13 - Mar 9 with 1397 views | GavTWTD |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:47 - Mar 9 by itfcjoe |
I think there is a chasm between saying what I said and that he would have 'excelled' |
I agree with you. Doubt Skuse would be used in the first eleven but KM seems very prepared for matches with multiple, adaptable plans.
Our left side is much weaker than the right so I'm hoping Edwards comes on leaps and bounds.
First half last night was so good but really worried about those injuries. |  |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 09:15 - Mar 9 with 1383 views | Wickets |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:09 - Mar 9 by tractordownsouth |
I struggle to see where Dobra fits in with this system. Someone like Kyle Edwards could be easily converted from a winger to a wing-back but not sure Dobra has that skill set. Maybe as a number 10? Hopefully he can manage it, but he's going to have his work cut out to get in to the squad. |
Edwards played a few games at wing back for WBA ! |  | | |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 09:19 - Mar 9 with 1347 views | itfcsuth |
Luke Garbutt. |  | | |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 09:20 - Mar 9 with 1344 views | clive_baker |
I thought Parrott was poor for us, his work rate was awful for the most part, but in his defence he was in a circus of a football club. I think an obvious one is Downes, high energy, fit as a fiddle and a very good footballer. Obviously there's an argument that had he stayed we wouldn't have financed deals for the likes of Morsy & Celina etc but Downes in a well coached and well motivated setup would've been great to see. |  |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 09:22 - Mar 9 with 1333 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 09:13 - Mar 9 by GavTWTD |
I agree with you. Doubt Skuse would be used in the first eleven but KM seems very prepared for matches with multiple, adaptable plans.
Our left side is much weaker than the right so I'm hoping Edwards comes on leaps and bounds.
First half last night was so good but really worried about those injuries. |
I do think it's very probable that Thompson's lack of urgency down that left side compared to Burns on the right is intentional to some extent. If both full backs were as marauding it would leave us more vulnerable defensively. The position Burns plays for a RWB is outrageous really and it's enabled by Donacien and the team being set up properly to cover for it. | | | |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 09:34 - Mar 9 with 1270 views | tractordownsouth |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 09:22 - Mar 9 by tractorboy1978 |
I do think it's very probable that Thompson's lack of urgency down that left side compared to Burns on the right is intentional to some extent. If both full backs were as marauding it would leave us more vulnerable defensively. The position Burns plays for a RWB is outrageous really and it's enabled by Donacien and the team being set up properly to cover for it. |
Agreed. And with Jackson drifting out to the left if gives us attacking threat on that side in other areas. | |
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| Who else would have been good under KM? on 10:43 - Mar 9 with 1094 views | Jon_456 |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 09:22 - Mar 9 by tractorboy1978 |
I do think it's very probable that Thompson's lack of urgency down that left side compared to Burns on the right is intentional to some extent. If both full backs were as marauding it would leave us more vulnerable defensively. The position Burns plays for a RWB is outrageous really and it's enabled by Donacien and the team being set up properly to cover for it. |
Yeah definitely looks intentional.
Its obvious we set up as a 3-5-2 / 3-4-3 but you could quite easily see it as 4-3-3 at times when in possession. When Burns pushes so high up, Donacian playing more of a FB position and Aluko / Celina dropping in centrally at times. With that system I'm quite comfortable with Thompson being more of a defensive FB rather than an attacking wing back. | | | |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 10:49 - Mar 9 with 1068 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 09:20 - Mar 9 by clive_baker |
I thought Parrott was poor for us, his work rate was awful for the most part, but in his defence he was in a circus of a football club. I think an obvious one is Downes, high energy, fit as a fiddle and a very good footballer. Obviously there's an argument that had he stayed we wouldn't have financed deals for the likes of Morsy & Celina etc but Downes in a well coached and well motivated setup would've been great to see. |
I think it's easy to forget he was 18/19. Despite not racking up goals, he's been a staple in the MK side this season and clearly has ability and plenty of ceiling still to hit. Plus McKenna knows all about him/possibly worked with him at Spurs. | | | |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 10:57 - Mar 9 with 1035 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Who else would have been good under KM? on 08:09 - Mar 9 by tractordownsouth |
I struggle to see where Dobra fits in with this system. Someone like Kyle Edwards could be easily converted from a winger to a wing-back but not sure Dobra has that skill set. Maybe as a number 10? Hopefully he can manage it, but he's going to have his work cut out to get in to the squad. |
Will Celina be here next season? Probably not. I'd say if not then that is Dobra's potential squad spot. (One of) the (many) good thing(s) about KM is that he picks horses for courses, so a player like Dobra may at least get some chances to shine. | | | |
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