| I'm not abandoning the club/team 06:59 - Mar 25 with 1859 views | Dubtractor |
Everyone else has done an attention seeking post over this, so I'm doing one too.
Am I hugely disappointed? Yes
Have the club (hopefully inadvertently) damaged our reputation? Definitely yes
Has the lack of honesty annoyed me as much as the event itself? Also yes
But they are still my club, that I've supported since my first game in 1987, and I can only hope that some major lessons are learned from this. The club really needs to reassert itself as the positive force it has been in our community now.
But, in summary, that prick farage and his scummy party will not stop me supporting my team. |  |
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:18 - Mar 25 with 1471 views | TractorWood |
Agree. The club's statement seems to imply it did host him.
This is an utterly enormous own goal given how divisive he is.
Who on earth signed this off? [Post edited 25 Mar 10:27]
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:22 - Mar 25 with 1432 views | Libero |
Aye, I’m with you - the reputational damage is massive but what i really can’t abide is the insulting supporters intelligence and lying. All the good will they had is lost and I suspect I’m not alone in that.
F*** whoever at the club thought thus was OK and sanctioned it and shame on those who knew it was wrong and didn’t speak up - i want to know how this came to play and who’s hands it passed through. [Post edited 25 Mar 7:30]
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:29 - Mar 25 with 1371 views | Keno |
^^^This^^^
for the first time since being here Ashton etc have got something massively wrong.
I dont have an issue with the visit per se but allowing the PR stuff was wrong and the statement has just made it worse |  |
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:30 - Mar 25 with 1366 views | nrb1985 |
I have no issues with the club, it is my club and will always be.
The current senior management overseeing my club at this point in time can fck off though.
One thing to be thick enough to do the deed, another to lie.
Nash at the very least needs to fck off and probably MA too depending on his level on involvement. |  | | |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:30 - Mar 25 with 1354 views | Funge |
We were here before this goon Ashton and his cohort of middle managers, and we will be here afterwards.
Yesterday was a horror show, and clear that a fairly robust post-mortem will need to follow - fair to say, I wouldn't trust Ashton to undertake this - but this is my club too (my first game was 1986, Dubbers, you glory-hunter....).
Many questions still to be answered, Mark - perhaps you could actually personally front up and answer them? |  | | |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:34 - Mar 25 with 1287 views | bluelagos |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:30 - Mar 25 by Funge |
We were here before this goon Ashton and his cohort of middle managers, and we will be here afterwards.
Yesterday was a horror show, and clear that a fairly robust post-mortem will need to follow - fair to say, I wouldn't trust Ashton to undertake this - but this is my club too (my first game was 1986, Dubbers, you glory-hunter....).
Many questions still to be answered, Mark - perhaps you could actually personally front up and answer them? |
I'm really have to bite my tongue on my opinion of Ashton. It's not positive |  |
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:37 - Mar 25 with 1241 views | nrb1985 |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:34 - Mar 25 by bluelagos |
I'm really have to bite my tongue on my opinion of Ashton. It's not positive |
You can email it to him :)
He has two from me alone. | | | |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:37 - Mar 25 with 1238 views | Funge |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:34 - Mar 25 by bluelagos |
I'm really have to bite my tongue on my opinion of Ashton. It's not positive |
I have very strong views on our 'beloved' leader; none are positive either. | | | |
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:38 - Mar 25 with 1230 views | NthQldITFC |
Agree.
What the club need to do now is front up with an interview (video message at least) of Ashton saying "We've made a mistake. We've made two very bad mistakes - letting it happen and then not immediately apologising fully for doing so - we put out a rubbish, vanilla holding statement at first, but now we're going to do as much as we can to put things right. No excuses. We're going to do what we can towards putting right OUR mistakes."
What can be done to mitigate the damage?
Invite other political parties in in the same way? - Seems a bit silly in a sense, but actually it's a very open and humble response that I wouldn't be a against.
Make serious financial donations to the sorts of groups that the proto-fascist and his moronic, grunting followers favour?
Double down on the Foundation and all of its inclusivity programmes?
The main thing is an unconditional and open, full video apology really. |  |
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:40 - Mar 25 with 1205 views | Herbivore |
I'm going to forego having my own attention seeking thread on this one I reckon. I'm still fuming this morning and genuinely don't know what to do. I went to my first Town game probably a year after you so the club is in my blood, I've been a season ticket holder for years. But something deep inside me feels very wrong about just carrying on as normal when it comes to supporting the club. This goes beyond an error of judgement, the statement from the club is piss weak, and there's been a fundamental betrayal of what I thought the club stood for.
Farage is poison and those giving it the whole "there wouldn't be this fuss if it was Starmer" line are spectacularly missing the point. Yes, the club should be apolitical but if you think Farage is just another politician then you're blind to what he is and what he stands for. He's a racist. He's a grifter. He'd sell his own kids for a few hundred quid. He has already done immeasurable damage to this country through his rhetoric, campaigning for a disastrous Brexit, and normalising views that have traditionally been part of the fringe far right. He hates this country and loves only himself. He would say or do anything for the benefit of himself (the Ian Watkins video anyone) and his backers, and he'll merrily throw the vulnerable, minoritised groups, and workers' rights under the bus for a sniff of power and a bag of cash. He's absolute scum.
And now my club is associated with him. He's been allowed to pose with a Town shirt at PR in front of our hallowed turf, in the changing room, and by all accounts has the red carpet rolled out for him during his visit. It shames us and I feel fooking disgusted that the club has allowed this to happen. |  |
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:42 - Mar 25 with 1184 views | Steve_M |
Yes, I think that's where I am too. I'm still angry about the lack of judgement and the appalling denial of culpability afterwards but I'm not letting those pricks take my football club away from me. I got to the same point with Marcus Evans but that was a much slower burn.
Equally I can understand why people feel like they don't want to support the club at this time. I do hope they can all come back in time if the club starts to make proper amends.
As for our usually omnipresent CEO, where is he? As with the Morsy rainbow laces thing last season his silence is deafening. This is where we need leadership and the suspicion has to be that he knew what was going on and either encouraged it or ignored the implications. [Post edited 25 Mar 8:17]
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:46 - Mar 25 with 1126 views | bluelagos |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:37 - Mar 25 by nrb1985 |
You can email it to him :)
He has two from me alone. |
He didn't respond to my last email, requesting the club join other clubs in supporting Hillsborough Law.
Didn't say no, just didn't respond.
Nor did the club respond when I raised the issue of a fan having received CPR was carried away on a blanket rather than a stretcher.
The idea that he or the club is good at Comms or listens to/engages with or gives a fck for fans opinions isn't one I have experienced. | |
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:51 - Mar 25 with 1086 views | AlpineBlue |
Look I understand the sentiment to "get behind the team" and all that. However we can't just be happy clappers and turn up and spend our money on the club.
Today I don't feel like me and my family can in good conscience walk around in an Ipswich Town football shirt because it suddenly seems like a political statement.
I'll draw a line in the sand if the club makes a statement that condemns what has happened, not simply tries to explain it away. Someone did this, and I don't mean simply that someone let this happen, so this person needs to be fired or resign and some serious PR work needs to go into community outreach to try to undo the damage this will have done within the town.
If those things don't happen, I am done with the club until a new chairman is in place. They won't get a penny from me. | | | |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:51 - Mar 25 with 1078 views | nrb1985 |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:46 - Mar 25 by bluelagos |
He didn't respond to my last email, requesting the club join other clubs in supporting Hillsborough Law.
Didn't say no, just didn't respond.
Nor did the club respond when I raised the issue of a fan having received CPR was carried away on a blanket rather than a stretcher.
The idea that he or the club is good at Comms or listens to/engages with or gives a fck for fans opinions isn't one I have experienced. |
He got one from me when this all surfaced.
And then another after it came to light they'd been invited in - in that one I gave my "top 10" of Farage quotes and asked him if he thought that was somebody who should be invited into the club...
Something tells me I won't be receiving an email back either. | | | |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:56 - Mar 25 with 1000 views | Metal_Hacker |
All of the above Dubbers .....
Speechless about it all really
1980 mine was and this error of judgement makes me feel sick to be fair
The "association" with that pr!ck needs to be severed and quickly somehow |  |
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:59 - Mar 25 with 968 views | waveneyblue |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:51 - Mar 25 by nrb1985 |
He got one from me when this all surfaced.
And then another after it came to light they'd been invited in - in that one I gave my "top 10" of Farage quotes and asked him if he thought that was somebody who should be invited into the club...
Something tells me I won't be receiving an email back either. |
Yeah, I can really see Ashton painstakingly replying to all the outraged of Suffolk emails he' received. Spoiler alert, you ain't gonna get a reply.
I can see that 24 hours on, people have still lost their minds
This is going to be a long and tedious international break. |  | | |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 08:04 - Mar 25 with 925 views | nrb1985 |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:59 - Mar 25 by waveneyblue |
Yeah, I can really see Ashton painstakingly replying to all the outraged of Suffolk emails he' received. Spoiler alert, you ain't gonna get a reply.
I can see that 24 hours on, people have still lost their minds
This is going to be a long and tedious international break. |
General observation.
90% of what you say on here is cnting off other fans.
You realise you don't have to come on here every day right? It seems to be making you rather unhappy and from what I see on here, your presence on the board often makes others unhappy too.
For the life of me I'm not sure what you get out of being on here other than continuously embarrassing yourself in full public view.
You're like Darkhorse, only with slightly better spelling. [Post edited 25 Mar 8:10]
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 08:06 - Mar 25 with 894 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:59 - Mar 25 by waveneyblue |
Yeah, I can really see Ashton painstakingly replying to all the outraged of Suffolk emails he' received. Spoiler alert, you ain't gonna get a reply.
I can see that 24 hours on, people have still lost their minds
This is going to be a long and tedious international break. |
It will be tedious if we continue to be subjected to this "holier than thou" nonsense. | | | |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 08:07 - Mar 25 with 888 views | Pinewoodblue |
There is no place for politics in football and it was a crass act of stupidity to allow the club to be used for political purposes.
We should all be disappointed that someone thought this was a good idea. This is going to drag on until the person responsible tenders their resignation and it is accepted.
As for the faux anger being shown by many posters you have a choice if you no longer feel able to support the club stay away. If you take part in any political protest at the next home game you are equally guilty of mixing politics and football. Shame on you.
One final comment. The situation highlights why it was a bad idea to combine the roles of Chairman & Chief executive. Ashton needs to admit this and stand down from one or the other. |  |
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 08:10 - Mar 25 with 851 views | Funge |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:59 - Mar 25 by waveneyblue |
Yeah, I can really see Ashton painstakingly replying to all the outraged of Suffolk emails he' received. Spoiler alert, you ain't gonna get a reply.
I can see that 24 hours on, people have still lost their minds
This is going to be a long and tedious international break. |
How to be kind about this?
A lot of people feel strongly about this situation, really strongly. A lot of people have explained, way more eloquently than me, why they're unhappy about it. Farage polarises people, and always has - and here we are.
You take great, great pleasure in announcing to all and sundry that people 'have lost their minds', that it's an an overreaction, that you don't care about any of this....
I mean, good for you.
If you don't care - and noting that an *absolute* fckload of people very much do care - why comment? | | | |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 08:10 - Mar 25 with 835 views | bluebud |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:40 - Mar 25 by Herbivore |
I'm going to forego having my own attention seeking thread on this one I reckon. I'm still fuming this morning and genuinely don't know what to do. I went to my first Town game probably a year after you so the club is in my blood, I've been a season ticket holder for years. But something deep inside me feels very wrong about just carrying on as normal when it comes to supporting the club. This goes beyond an error of judgement, the statement from the club is piss weak, and there's been a fundamental betrayal of what I thought the club stood for.
Farage is poison and those giving it the whole "there wouldn't be this fuss if it was Starmer" line are spectacularly missing the point. Yes, the club should be apolitical but if you think Farage is just another politician then you're blind to what he is and what he stands for. He's a racist. He's a grifter. He'd sell his own kids for a few hundred quid. He has already done immeasurable damage to this country through his rhetoric, campaigning for a disastrous Brexit, and normalising views that have traditionally been part of the fringe far right. He hates this country and loves only himself. He would say or do anything for the benefit of himself (the Ian Watkins video anyone) and his backers, and he'll merrily throw the vulnerable, minoritised groups, and workers' rights under the bus for a sniff of power and a bag of cash. He's absolute scum.
And now my club is associated with him. He's been allowed to pose with a Town shirt at PR in front of our hallowed turf, in the changing room, and by all accounts has the red carpet rolled out for him during his visit. It shames us and I feel fooking disgusted that the club has allowed this to happen. |
lol, he'd sell his own children for a few hundred quid.
You think the incident was beyond an error of judgement? So you must think it was part of a deliberate action or part of a larger strategy? What do you think it's part of in that case? Do you think Israel is involved somehow? |  | | |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 08:11 - Mar 25 with 821 views | budgiebasher |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 07:40 - Mar 25 by Herbivore |
I'm going to forego having my own attention seeking thread on this one I reckon. I'm still fuming this morning and genuinely don't know what to do. I went to my first Town game probably a year after you so the club is in my blood, I've been a season ticket holder for years. But something deep inside me feels very wrong about just carrying on as normal when it comes to supporting the club. This goes beyond an error of judgement, the statement from the club is piss weak, and there's been a fundamental betrayal of what I thought the club stood for.
Farage is poison and those giving it the whole "there wouldn't be this fuss if it was Starmer" line are spectacularly missing the point. Yes, the club should be apolitical but if you think Farage is just another politician then you're blind to what he is and what he stands for. He's a racist. He's a grifter. He'd sell his own kids for a few hundred quid. He has already done immeasurable damage to this country through his rhetoric, campaigning for a disastrous Brexit, and normalising views that have traditionally been part of the fringe far right. He hates this country and loves only himself. He would say or do anything for the benefit of himself (the Ian Watkins video anyone) and his backers, and he'll merrily throw the vulnerable, minoritised groups, and workers' rights under the bus for a sniff of power and a bag of cash. He's absolute scum.
And now my club is associated with him. He's been allowed to pose with a Town shirt at PR in front of our hallowed turf, in the changing room, and by all accounts has the red carpet rolled out for him during his visit. It shames us and I feel fooking disgusted that the club has allowed this to happen. |
This pretty sums up how I feel about the situation. It’s left a massive stain on our club and I don’t feel the same about it right now. I really hope that my feelings change but the official statement seems to have just hardened them. As its stands I have no interest in going to Portman Road (maybe the international break has come at the right time for me!). Many will say massive overreaction but allowing Farage to use Portman Road as a backdrop for Reform is completely unacceptable in my World. Some things are more important than football |  |
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 08:13 - Mar 25 with 782 views | Cotty |
I think that's the only sensible conclusion to draw. |  | | |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 08:14 - Mar 25 with 758 views | GlasgowBlue |
Agree. As I said last night, the people who run the club are transactional. We were here before they arrived and we’ll be here long after they have gone. |  |
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| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 08:18 - Mar 25 with 715 views | nrb1985 |
| I'm not abandoning the club/team on 08:10 - Mar 25 by Funge |
How to be kind about this?
A lot of people feel strongly about this situation, really strongly. A lot of people have explained, way more eloquently than me, why they're unhappy about it. Farage polarises people, and always has - and here we are.
You take great, great pleasure in announcing to all and sundry that people 'have lost their minds', that it's an an overreaction, that you don't care about any of this....
I mean, good for you.
If you don't care - and noting that an *absolute* fckload of people very much do care - why comment? |
If you don't care - and noting that an *absolute* fckload of people very much do care - why comment?
Because he's a bored, sad and lonely old man whose only pleasure in life is coming on an internet msg board, where he dislikes most of the community, and has to tell them that - almost every day. Probably doesn't get the respect he thinks he deserves in his every day life so tells everybody else how to feel and why his view is superior.
He is one of the least likeable people on here and the competition for that is high. | | | |
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