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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this 18:38 - Dec 16 with 3464 viewsFrimleyBlue




One slip and it's a goal conceded.

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 18:52 - Dec 16 with 3042 viewsYallop

Cracking bit of magic. Good on him
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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 19:37 - Dec 16 with 2909 viewsNthsuffolkblue

The one he does just in front of his own box, I agree. The other two I have no issue with. I guess if he does it well enough and never loses the ball it isn't an issue but it did seem an unnecessary risk in front of his box.

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 20:07 - Dec 16 with 2796 viewsBryanPlug

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 20:53 - Dec 16 with 2666 viewsSeablu

Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 20:07 - Dec 16 by BryanPlug

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In about 25 years time, the hall of fame is going to have to make some retrospective additions.

The fact that Chambers is the nearest thing we’ve had to a legend since Counago, Bent & Kuqi is a damning indictment on the mediocrity that’s crawled through here in the last decade or so.
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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 21:37 - Dec 16 with 2528 viewsgiant_ullaa

That's a bit joyless innit?! Nice to a see a big lump twist!

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 22:53 - Dec 16 with 2313 viewsMrTown

Agree

Edge of the box forget it, definitely not. Middle of the box, don’t like it either really. Leave that to the attacking midfielders and strikers. Defenders stick to defending first.

Again, something you’ll learn when he matures in his game, won’t benefit us but will benefit him when he gets caught out. Will learn etc.

I remember Garbutt doing similar away at Blackpool last year and get caught. Lambert when ballistic and rightly so, this is professional football, not a knock about in the park.

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 07:12 - Dec 17 with 2131 viewsSaleAway

is this the same fanbase that complains that none of our players take a risk, always take the safe option, pass it sideways or backwards? Someone shows a bit of flair, and we're on them for taking risks.

Watching that was pretty much the only thing ITFC have done in ages that brought a smile to my face.
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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 08:14 - Dec 17 with 2035 viewsGarv

Well we don't see midfielders or attackers doing this sort of thing, so why not a defender. Can't remember the last time someone tried to beat a man with a bit of skill.

Lighten up. Great stuff.

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 08:35 - Dec 17 with 1972 viewspatrickswell

Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 20:53 - Dec 16 by Seablu

In about 25 years time, the hall of fame is going to have to make some retrospective additions.

The fact that Chambers is the nearest thing we’ve had to a legend since Counago, Bent & Kuqi is a damning indictment on the mediocrity that’s crawled through here in the last decade or so.


I think Murphy, Mings and McGoldrick would have claims to be lauded as well.
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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 08:50 - Dec 17 with 1934 viewsBlue12345

What else was he supposed to do kick the ball out of play?

He didn't think about it, that sort of thing comes naturally to players with the ability to do it.

A lot of ifs and buts before you can say " one slip and its a goal conceded".

Cheer up.
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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 09:12 - Dec 17 with 1885 viewsgordon

Think the awful attempt to win the ball that started Burton's attack where they should've scored in the last five minutes was more of a problem, it didn't show much footballing intelligence - there was absolutely no need to try and get in and win that ball, it wasn't as if Burton were cutting us open at will or in a promising position prior to him committing himself unnecessarily.
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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 09:26 - Dec 17 with 1845 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 08:50 - Dec 17 by Blue12345

What else was he supposed to do kick the ball out of play?

He didn't think about it, that sort of thing comes naturally to players with the ability to do it.

A lot of ifs and buts before you can say " one slip and its a goal conceded".

Cheer up.


I Think, like most people on here praising him, you would be singing a very different tune had the attacher robbed him and slotted home for 1-2.

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 09:35 - Dec 17 with 1806 viewsDinDjarin

Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 07:12 - Dec 17 by SaleAway

is this the same fanbase that complains that none of our players take a risk, always take the safe option, pass it sideways or backwards? Someone shows a bit of flair, and we're on them for taking risks.

Watching that was pretty much the only thing ITFC have done in ages that brought a smile to my face.
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I love seeing players being brave although if you lose it on the edge of your box then you will look like a numpty but the lad is obviously confident to try these things and should be encouraged.

The issue I have is that he is at fault for goals. Their goal Tuesday was a result of his long pass being intercepted. They almost equalized when he sold himself trying to win the ball in their half near the touchline. Should never have been that far up the pitch when winning 2 - 1 with minutes to go.
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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 09:36 - Dec 17 with 1804 viewsclive_baker

It's fine when you get away with it, but if you get a rush to the head and think you're Maldini before pinging horrible diags that they score from it's not so cool.

I sympathise with McGuinness and Woolfenden though, they're both promising young defenders and I'm delighted to see them getting an opportunity to play here, despite McGuinness not being one of our own. It's a good message to Arsenal, for them to know if they send the likes of AMN and McGuinness here they'll go back better players, it bodes well for the relationship. I don't like the way we play, with so much going through our 2 centre backs and expecting them to be creators. Let them defend, we need to be a little more direct getting the ball from back to front, which we're capable of all the way across our back 4, and play our football further up the pitch with Jackson off Hawkins and willing runners around them which we have in Judge, Dobra et all.

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 09:36 - Dec 17 with 1805 viewsBlue12345

Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 09:26 - Dec 17 by Cheltenham_Blue

I Think, like most people on here praising him, you would be singing a very different tune had the attacher robbed him and slotted home for 1-2.


I had actually only watched the first clip ( the one in the opposition half ). I have now seen the whole thing.

My comment was just in regard to the first one
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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 09:50 - Dec 17 with 1759 viewsMrTown

Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 07:12 - Dec 17 by SaleAway

is this the same fanbase that complains that none of our players take a risk, always take the safe option, pass it sideways or backwards? Someone shows a bit of flair, and we're on them for taking risks.

Watching that was pretty much the only thing ITFC have done in ages that brought a smile to my face.
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I want to see risks, you have to take risk... in the opposing half, not the edge of your own box etc.

He’s a defender. Let’s make sure he can defend first and foremost.

He’s a kid, got a lot to turn, has so much potential, think he’ll go really really far in the game.

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 10:01 - Dec 17 with 1736 viewsGarv

Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 09:36 - Dec 17 by clive_baker

It's fine when you get away with it, but if you get a rush to the head and think you're Maldini before pinging horrible diags that they score from it's not so cool.

I sympathise with McGuinness and Woolfenden though, they're both promising young defenders and I'm delighted to see them getting an opportunity to play here, despite McGuinness not being one of our own. It's a good message to Arsenal, for them to know if they send the likes of AMN and McGuinness here they'll go back better players, it bodes well for the relationship. I don't like the way we play, with so much going through our 2 centre backs and expecting them to be creators. Let them defend, we need to be a little more direct getting the ball from back to front, which we're capable of all the way across our back 4, and play our football further up the pitch with Jackson off Hawkins and willing runners around them which we have in Judge, Dobra et all.


We did mix it up the other night to be fair. The first goal came from being a little bit more direct. But we also created chances by passing the ball, which was good to see. Just a shame that the crowd groaned every time we had a spell of possession.

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 10:02 - Dec 17 with 1728 viewschrismakin

Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 07:12 - Dec 17 by SaleAway

is this the same fanbase that complains that none of our players take a risk, always take the safe option, pass it sideways or backwards? Someone shows a bit of flair, and we're on them for taking risks.

Watching that was pretty much the only thing ITFC have done in ages that brought a smile to my face.
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I dont think it's about the player doing it, it's more about being put in that position to be doing it

That pass by cornell, and having him facing the wrong way when he receives it, it's a suicide pass.

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 10:03 - Dec 17 with 1718 viewsChrisd

Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 09:35 - Dec 17 by DinDjarin

I love seeing players being brave although if you lose it on the edge of your box then you will look like a numpty but the lad is obviously confident to try these things and should be encouraged.

The issue I have is that he is at fault for goals. Their goal Tuesday was a result of his long pass being intercepted. They almost equalized when he sold himself trying to win the ball in their half near the touchline. Should never have been that far up the pitch when winning 2 - 1 with minutes to go.


Is this not what we want from our players to be braver? I agree there is a time and place do this type of skill, but if we aren't asking the players to take risks and be braver on the ball then nothing is going to change. There's plenty of moaning about our players passing the ball sideways, backwards and keeping possession in our own half, I've got no problem with players wanting to carry the ball forwards providing others cover or make that long accurate pass, if anything it shows their level of confidence wanting to try it. If it gets intercepted the opposition have still got a considerable distance to go and players to get through before the ball ends up in our net, it won't just be the result of that pass which is the reason for the goal. However, if we are highlighting every little error or judgement then it's more likely that our players won't take risks, will continually play safe because they don't want to be the one responsible for giving the ball away which will result in more aimless passing around the back without going anywhere.
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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 10:36 - Dec 17 with 1636 viewsLesta_Tractor

In the opposition half? fine

On the edge of our box?

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 10:42 - Dec 17 with 1605 viewsBluearmy71

Absolutely he should do it, edge of the box or not, its part of his game and that's the kind of fearlessness shown by younger players, that's the excitement of watching them, the willingness to try that as opposed to the seasoned pro who has had it drummed into him not to do anything like that just clear it out or punt it up-field!!

Will Mcguinness get caught out?? of course he will maybe 2 out of ten times, will it cost us a goal?? of course it will but that's no different to his cross-field balls that gets intercepted which can and did lead to us conceding a goal.

We all want to see exciting football so lets not bemoan a player who is willing to give us that excitement, lets just encourage his natural game is what I say!!!
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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 10:42 - Dec 17 with 1603 viewsBiGDonnie

He smashed it. Would love to see more of it, he carries it better than everyone bar Dozzer and Bish!

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 11:37 - Dec 17 with 1502 viewsjayessess

It looks flash, but I'm not sure it's that risky. You see the striker coming, you know he's going to dive in, simple enough to evade.

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 11:56 - Dec 17 with 1456 viewsclive_baker

Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 10:01 - Dec 17 by Garv

We did mix it up the other night to be fair. The first goal came from being a little bit more direct. But we also created chances by passing the ball, which was good to see. Just a shame that the crowd groaned every time we had a spell of possession.


I didn't watch but that's good to hear. Its frustrating we haven't done it more when you look at how effective it was for the 1st goal, I then saw a chance on the highlights where Jackson had one pushed around the post, that came from Dozzell and Judge playing ball much higher up the pitch. We then score a 2nd after going 2 up top. We score against Plymouth after going 2 up top and getting balls into the box. It's not rocket science.

Good to hear we had a bit more variety on Tuesday though, lets hope we see more of it.

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Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 14:27 - Dec 17 with 1333 viewsGarv

Sorry but imo. Defenders shouldn't be doing this on 11:56 - Dec 17 by clive_baker

I didn't watch but that's good to hear. Its frustrating we haven't done it more when you look at how effective it was for the 1st goal, I then saw a chance on the highlights where Jackson had one pushed around the post, that came from Dozzell and Judge playing ball much higher up the pitch. We then score a 2nd after going 2 up top. We score against Plymouth after going 2 up top and getting balls into the box. It's not rocket science.

Good to hear we had a bit more variety on Tuesday though, lets hope we see more of it.


I think it all comes down to service and delivery, whether we play one up or two up. The balls into the box from Ward at Plymouth are good good balls whether there's one or two central strikers. As long as you've got midfielders arriving then we will get chances, our issue at the moment is someone needing to do something special to make a chance, e.g Bennets or Dozzell maybe.
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