| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE 20:38 - Apr 3 with 137604 views | greyhound |
Happy Easter one and all.
Hold on to your hats and refresh every 5 minutes throughout Wednesday and Thursday, the deals been done and completion confirmed.
As Paul Cook hinted we are in for a very exciting summer. Its dragged on but now we can focus onwards and upwards.
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| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 18:02 - Apr 6 with 4064 views | blueislander |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 17:55 - Apr 6 by greyhound |
I'm still here. Will be saying sorry if it doesn't happen but my source hasn't wavered. I said Wednesday or Thursday so let's chill and see what happens. |
Is your source subject to an NDA? | | | |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 18:05 - Apr 6 with 4045 views | greyhound |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 18:02 - Apr 6 by blueislander |
Is your source subject to an NDA? |
Can't answer that. | | | |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 18:07 - Apr 6 with 4011 views | blueislander |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 18:05 - Apr 6 by greyhound |
Can't answer that. |
I didn’t really expect you to, but thought I’d ask. | | | |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 18:36 - Apr 6 with 3856 views | jaykay |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 17:14 - Apr 6 by J2BLUE |
Thank you. Apology accepted as well.
I might be overly expectant but i'm not actually thinking that Gamechangers would come in and throw money at it until it worked. Evans' decision making and refusal to change his "strategy" have led us to where we are, I completely agree. What excites me about this is the thought of a full time CEO coming in with football experience who can run the club properly. From what Phil has posted in the past Evans will not change because he sees this as a personal challenge. That terrifies me because if he doesn't sell then we're destined for more of what we've had from him with no end in sight and no sign he will ever learn from his mistakes. I don't hate the man. I don't wish him any harm. I just want him to accept his investment gamble failed and get out.
As for the investment side of things I think Evans has used the money he has invested terribly. He has wasted millions trusting the wrong managers, refused to back the good one he had and his general running of the club has been a disgrace. He's inconsistent, for example turning down £7m for McGoldrick and then selling Murphy for £3m. He regularly sells off assets which are then replaced with vastly inferior players before making a stand on a player like McGoldrick when everyone would have accepted him going IF the money was given to the manager to reinvest. I think people give Evans far too much credit. Yes he's put some money in but half his trouble is the scattergun approach he takes. There's no clear strategy. How many top strikers have Peterborough sold in the last decade before replacing them with an even better one? I genuinely don't think we need an owner to pump in millions each season if there is some sort of plan. I look at other clubs with smaller crowds and they never seem to need millions pumped in by the owner. I'm not talking about the recently relegated either. Much of Evans' investment is to cover up his own incompetence. There is no strategy. It all seems decided on an individual basis. Another thing is the amount of players we lose on frees. It could all be managed so much more effectively. I would like to know the true amount Evans has put in on average for the decade up to the end of the 18/19 season. I'm not sure it's as much as people think (see Mings sale etc) and there's every chance we could have made up a vast amount of that money that he's put in through managing the club more effectively. We have a massive squad right now. So much dead money that really shouldn't be needed. I just want a competent owner/CEO with power to run the club. Evans is never going to delegate that power and seems incapable of coming up with a plan.
I cannot believe that Gamechangers have looked at the club and seen anything but a ticket to the Premier League. I'm not suggesting they would come in and throw a fortune at it but you would think getting us back to challenging the top half of the Championship is an easy win for an owner with any competence whatsoever. I really can't see GC coming in and slashing costs and skimming some of the very limited profits which would come from that method. The true riches are in the Premier League. This club has so much potential. I have a mate who frequently lies about football for some reason. He told me we got 29,000 for a division one game in 2003. I assumed he was lying but when I checked this club really did get nearly thirty thousand in division one after we were relegated. The potential is massive. We need a little investment, a plan and clear direction and some competent people to run the club. I just can't believe GC want the club to have us make a tiny profit in the lower leagues. It wouldn't make any sense. My comment about winning a cup is pure hope, of course it is. Right now, honestly, do you have any hope we'll ever see the Premier League again under Evans? If you do, do you still have that hope if he refuses to delegate power and carries on running things as he does?
You said it yourself. His decision making is killing the club. I was annoyed Blue Action put reform on the banner because I think Evans will use that against us but if there was GENUINE reform. If Evans appointed a good board and a proper football CEO to run the club and provided them with a budget and didn't interfere with the running of the club then i'd be much more willing to give Evans another chance. It's not happening. A sale is our only way out of this. [Post edited 6 Apr 2021 17:19]
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just a honest ? do we know if evans refused to back mick. i expect he asked mick who he can let go and who he wants to keep. if he didn't i expect he would have sold mcgoldrick
also all the managers he has employed , i dont think many moaned at the time. in fact the opposite happened at the time. hindsight is a great thing. |  |
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| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 18:40 - Apr 6 with 3822 views | The_Realist_09 |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 15:37 - Apr 6 by PhilTWTD |
Pretty confident he didn't say his goodbyes! As I said at the weekend, I don't think he's going anywhere. |
I appreciate you must have solid sources Phil, but something just doesn't add up with the priority searches, especially after being extended. Like Muncher has said, from what I know these are usually a formality in anticipation of imminent completion of a deal, sometimes even undertaken once both parties are already under contract.
Do you have any opinions on this side of things? | | | |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 18:59 - Apr 6 with 3699 views | J2BLUE |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 18:36 - Apr 6 by jaykay |
just a honest ? do we know if evans refused to back mick. i expect he asked mick who he can let go and who he wants to keep. if he didn't i expect he would have sold mcgoldrick
also all the managers he has employed , i dont think many moaned at the time. in fact the opposite happened at the time. hindsight is a great thing. |
There are enough examples during MM's reign to come to that conclusion.
He padded the squad out with the likes of Coke, Bru and Bajner
Sold Murphy and either replaced him with Best or didn't replace him at all (your choice)
We didn't sign the quality needed to go up automatically when we were challenging. MM signed Sears for £100k.
Mings signed for £10k, sold for £8m. Moore signed for £10k, sold for £850k. Etc etc. That money wasn't given back to MM. Even the Mings money which Evans can never have expected wasn't used to back MM.
Really don't think it's fair to suggest my post is all hindsight. IIRC the attitude to McGoldrick was great if we don't sell (as people thought it was the beginning of Evans actually showing some ambition) but also we had no right to complain if we did sell someone we got on a free for such a fee. |  |
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| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 20:26 - Apr 6 with 3335 views | itfcbishop |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 18:40 - Apr 6 by The_Realist_09 |
I appreciate you must have solid sources Phil, but something just doesn't add up with the priority searches, especially after being extended. Like Muncher has said, from what I know these are usually a formality in anticipation of imminent completion of a deal, sometimes even undertaken once both parties are already under contract.
Do you have any opinions on this side of things? |
What i think is Gamechanger are trying to force Evans hand, the deal on the table is acceptable. I think and like Phil said he doesn't want to sell, and why would he if financially he can afford to keep owning the club.
Think of it from a selfish point of view, If im happy to keep the expensive hobby, i really wouldn't sell the club in league one.
PS i want Evans out big time, to the point where im not going back until i see someone else in power |  | | |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 20:30 - Apr 6 with 3295 views | Trequartista |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 18:05 - Apr 6 by greyhound |
Can't answer that. |
That must mean 'yes', because if it was 'no' you would be able to answer that. |  |
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| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 20:40 - Apr 6 with 3204 views | blueislander |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 20:30 - Apr 6 by Trequartista |
That must mean 'yes', because if it was 'no' you would be able to answer that. |
Or, maybe he just doesn’t know. | | | |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 20:51 - Apr 6 with 3129 views | _itfczac |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 20:40 - Apr 6 by blueislander |
Or, maybe he just doesn’t know. |
I guess we'll find out in the next few days time, would love him to be right but phil doesn't get a lot wrong. | | | |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 20:59 - Apr 6 with 3067 views | jeera |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 20:51 - Apr 6 by _itfczac |
I guess we'll find out in the next few days time, would love him to be right but phil doesn't get a lot wrong. |
The thing I would like to point out, in my opinion anyway, is that the poster himself seems genuine.
I'd hate to see him vilified on the basis that he himself has been fed duff information. |  |
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| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:01 - Apr 6 with 3040 views | hype313 |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 20:59 - Apr 6 by jeera |
The thing I would like to point out, in my opinion anyway, is that the poster himself seems genuine.
I'd hate to see him vilified on the basis that he himself has been fed duff information. |
Well, we'll all know one way or the other within 48 hours, I'd dearly love this guy to be in the right, but I fear Phil is correct in saying Marcus has no real appetite to sell. |  |
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| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:02 - Apr 6 with 3815 views | saffers12 |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 20:59 - Apr 6 by jeera |
The thing I would like to point out, in my opinion anyway, is that the poster himself seems genuine.
I'd hate to see him vilified on the basis that he himself has been fed duff information. |
Why would his informant feed him duff information if he was truly in a position to know? Although like 99% hope they are right |  | | |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:06 - Apr 6 with 3773 views | jeera |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:02 - Apr 6 by saffers12 |
Why would his informant feed him duff information if he was truly in a position to know? Although like 99% hope they are right |
Oh ok then, not 'fed' but offered with good intentions incorrect information.
Or promising information that turned out to be different to what the person was expecting.
Or many other ways of putting the same thing. | |
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| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:07 - Apr 6 with 3754 views | saffers12 |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:06 - Apr 6 by jeera |
Oh ok then, not 'fed' but offered with good intentions incorrect information.
Or promising information that turned out to be different to what the person was expecting.
Or many other ways of putting the same thing. |
I see what you mean, yes if that's the case deffo no pelters needed , I agree I fully believe he believes it is true fingers crossed | | | |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:12 - Apr 6 with 3730 views | N2_Blue |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:07 - Apr 6 by saffers12 |
I see what you mean, yes if that's the case deffo no pelters needed , I agree I fully believe he believes it is true fingers crossed |
Phil is right. Evans doesn't particularly want to sell.
I'm led to believe he will consider things again when divisional status is secured, and if an offer seemed attractive to him, then he may accept, but until then there is going to be no takeover...and even then ME may decide he wants to carry on and see if PC can change fortunes for him |  |
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| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:18 - Apr 6 with 3663 views | blueislander |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:02 - Apr 6 by saffers12 |
Why would his informant feed him duff information if he was truly in a position to know? Although like 99% hope they are right |
There is always the possibility that there is no informant , and he is just on a wind up, and, as I posted earlier, enjoying his 5 minutes of fame. | | | |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:21 - Apr 6 with 3636 views | greyhound |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 20:30 - Apr 6 by Trequartista |
That must mean 'yes', because if it was 'no' you would be able to answer that. |
Whatever answer I give narrows down the way in which the info is obtained though doesn't it. | | | |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:26 - Apr 6 with 3558 views | blueislander |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:21 - Apr 6 by greyhound |
Whatever answer I give narrows down the way in which the info is obtained though doesn't it. |
I assume that your information is obtained verbally, Just in case it proves to be wrong, so there cannot be any comeback. | | | |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:27 - Apr 6 with 3559 views | Metal_Hacker |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:18 - Apr 6 by blueislander |
There is always the possibility that there is no informant , and he is just on a wind up, and, as I posted earlier, enjoying his 5 minutes of fame. |
I think you’re perhaps a little harsh on Greyhound. The guy comes back again and again with answers as best he can , with a snippet here and there and for the most comes across as a decent guy. Accept it on face value and call him out if it doesn’t happen perhaps. For someone looking for “5 minutes of fame “ he’s getting more like a good few weeks of it so ......
Give him the benefit of the doubt and make the right decision based on facts (whether it happens between now and Thursday ) and then let him know your thoughts
Just an idea and IMHO a polite and sensible one maybe |  |
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| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:30 - Apr 6 with 3532 views | jaykay |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 18:59 - Apr 6 by J2BLUE |
There are enough examples during MM's reign to come to that conclusion.
He padded the squad out with the likes of Coke, Bru and Bajner
Sold Murphy and either replaced him with Best or didn't replace him at all (your choice)
We didn't sign the quality needed to go up automatically when we were challenging. MM signed Sears for £100k.
Mings signed for £10k, sold for £8m. Moore signed for £10k, sold for £850k. Etc etc. That money wasn't given back to MM. Even the Mings money which Evans can never have expected wasn't used to back MM.
Really don't think it's fair to suggest my post is all hindsight. IIRC the attitude to McGoldrick was great if we don't sell (as people thought it was the beginning of Evans actually showing some ambition) but also we had no right to complain if we did sell someone we got on a free for such a fee. |
did mick ask for that money. we are only guessing that evans would not give mick money from those transfers. he gave hurst money from those who were transferred
i didnt mean you post was hindsight, just all most of evans managers were crap, but at the time , most welcomed them. . they turned out to be crap thats hindsight | |
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| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:31 - Apr 6 with 3522 views | blueislander |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:27 - Apr 6 by Metal_Hacker |
I think you’re perhaps a little harsh on Greyhound. The guy comes back again and again with answers as best he can , with a snippet here and there and for the most comes across as a decent guy. Accept it on face value and call him out if it doesn’t happen perhaps. For someone looking for “5 minutes of fame “ he’s getting more like a good few weeks of it so ......
Give him the benefit of the doubt and make the right decision based on facts (whether it happens between now and Thursday ) and then let him know your thoughts
Just an idea and IMHO a polite and sensible one maybe |
I will certainly make a full apology if he proves correct. In the meantime I tend to think there are too many holes in his argument. | | | |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:33 - Apr 6 with 3496 views | Metal_Hacker |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:31 - Apr 6 by blueislander |
I will certainly make a full apology if he proves correct. In the meantime I tend to think there are too many holes in his argument. |
Good man , it’s good to be polite innit | |
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| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:36 - Apr 6 with 3456 views | J2BLUE |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:31 - Apr 6 by blueislander |
I will certainly make a full apology if he proves correct. In the meantime I tend to think there are too many holes in his argument. |
If he was concerned with 'fame' he could have been much more vague. He already had credit in the bank from before. He could have said something like "my source suggests it's not entirely dead", but no, he's give two specific days less than a week away from the OP. Usually when people are looking for attention they throw the date way into the future to milk it dry. | |
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| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:37 - Apr 6 with 3455 views | Farmerpiles |
| THE TAKEOVER IS DONE on 21:21 - Apr 6 by greyhound |
Whatever answer I give narrows down the way in which the info is obtained though doesn't it. |
So by Thursday evening we will know if the whole future of our club is taking a new direction or not. Or is the weds/thurs announcement your guesswork after being told the deal is done. Not trying to catch you out, just trying to read between the lines. |  | | |
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