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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow 10:27 - Jun 20 with 7465 viewsBasuco

what brexit benefits would you miss most? (copied from twitter)
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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 21:48 - Jun 20 with 969 viewsmutters

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 20:33 - Jun 20 by factual_blue

The day after the referendum dopes bombarded government departments with emails and phone calls,demanding that their websites immediately remove reference to the EU 'because we've left the EU'. How well do you think those dopes will take to your assertion?
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What assertion do you think I made? The fact that a few years is not enough time to have a fair assessment? In that case yes I think that's fair. The impact will take decades to fully understand

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 21:50 - Jun 20 with 957 viewsMattinLondon

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 18:54 - Jun 20 by mylittletown

The entitled middle classes wouldn't be caught dead drinking prosecco.


That’s a pity about some aspects of this debate - some treated it as some sort of class warfare issue. Giving it to the middle classes whilst enabling the true elite to establish Brexit as a way to introduce a more right-wing selfish society. Farage really was good at telling some how to think.
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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 21:51 - Jun 20 with 954 viewsmutters

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 20:42 - Jun 20 by Nthsuffolkblue

To say we need to give it time, Rome wasn't built in a day, we need to give it another 10 years and we are getting better at negotiating and surely the next deal with the EU can't be as bad as the most recent version that is just about holding the fragile peace in Ireland.

Yes, these Brexoptimists will always be able to see the sunlit uplands somewhere on the horizon. If only Nigel could be given power to properly implement it and tell the EU where to shove their trade.


"these Brexoptimists" 🤣🤣

As somebody who have lived and travelled extensively across the EU region you definitely have me defined wrongly.

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 22:07 - Jun 20 with 917 viewsLord_Lucan

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 21:31 - Jun 20 by unbelievablue

When are we going?


I can drink in there free of charge!

It's a bit of a cr4p place as it happens.

I'll whatsapp you some info.

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 22:13 - Jun 20 with 907 viewsjeera

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 20:39 - Jun 20 by leitrimblue

Yer, think it is about €60 for a gp visit( not been for myself for about 10 years). Not sure about charges. Pensioners and under 18,s get a medical card that entitles them to free medical care. Think it's the same for people on benefits and possibly lower earners. Many people have health insurance and others like myself just pay the €60 every now and then.


I thought you just go to see the Wise Woman or something.

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 22:22 - Jun 20 with 902 viewsmylittletown

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 21:50 - Jun 20 by MattinLondon

That’s a pity about some aspects of this debate - some treated it as some sort of class warfare issue. Giving it to the middle classes whilst enabling the true elite to establish Brexit as a way to introduce a more right-wing selfish society. Farage really was good at telling some how to think.


Agreed.
And the 'entitled middle classes' will in turn be far less badly affected than many of those of the less well-off, who will be the main victims of Brexit.
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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 22:37 - Jun 20 with 897 viewsbraveblue

Getting the vaccines and boosters months early. Saved thousands of lives.
Getting out of lockdown months early.
Points based immigration system.
Helping Ukraine without EU squabbles.
Going to Spain with absolutely no difference to entry.
Direct trade deals with over 200 countries.

All I could think off in a couple of minutes.
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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 22:38 - Jun 20 with 890 viewsNthsuffolkblue

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 21:51 - Jun 20 by mutters

"these Brexoptimists" 🤣🤣

As somebody who have lived and travelled extensively across the EU region you definitely have me defined wrongly.


Not sure where you thought I had defined you as anything.

Those who expect there to be benefits around the corner once we get it right is who I was referring to. If you choose to self-identify in that camp then I am not sure how I have mislabelled you. If you are not choosing to identify in that camp then I am unsure why you think I have put you in it! From your statements so far I am struggling to see what your own views are except that you seem to think that at some point in the (distant) future we might regain some of the benefits we have thrown away.

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 00:24 - Jun 21 with 830 viewsmutters

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 22:38 - Jun 20 by Nthsuffolkblue

Not sure where you thought I had defined you as anything.

Those who expect there to be benefits around the corner once we get it right is who I was referring to. If you choose to self-identify in that camp then I am not sure how I have mislabelled you. If you are not choosing to identify in that camp then I am unsure why you think I have put you in it! From your statements so far I am struggling to see what your own views are except that you seem to think that at some point in the (distant) future we might regain some of the benefits we have thrown away.


Ah well not to worry, maybe it's a misunderstanding but you did try to label me. "I am not sure how I have mislabelled you". Sounds like labelling to me 🤣

It's always though to have these conversations as people don't really know the posters history. If you look through my posts it's clear that I am a remainder, voted remain and have benefited greatly from being able to move around the EU, a benefit I am aghast that my little one won't have. However because I said that we don't know what the future looks like and Brexit might be a good thing I am now a Brexiter. It's just too soon to tell.

Actually the label that you could slap on me is optimist. That is true. Let's make the best of the situation we are in

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 00:50 - Jun 21 with 818 viewsEireannach_gorm

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 22:13 - Jun 20 by jeera

I thought you just go to see the Wise Woman or something.


Don't be silly, he goes to the seventh son of a seventh son like everyone else in Ireland.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-seventh-of-a-seventh-son-makes-internati
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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 02:16 - Jun 21 with 807 viewsjeera

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 00:50 - Jun 21 by Eireannach_gorm

Don't be silly, he goes to the seventh son of a seventh son like everyone else in Ireland.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-seventh-of-a-seventh-son-makes-internati


A wizard squared?

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 06:57 - Jun 21 with 764 viewsZapers

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 19:47 - Jun 20 by Lord_Lucan

I have a mad French customer who lives in Mayfair and said he cried tears of joy when he was recently given a UK passport - and that if he had been allowed to back then he would have voted Brexit.

He 50% owns a nightclub just over the road from Selfridges where drinks are only served by the bottle, beer isn't on the menu and a bottle of gin will cost you £750

Total insanity!


Not French Mark;)
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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 07:56 - Jun 21 with 740 viewsCharlie_pl_baxter

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 20:44 - Jun 20 by factual_blue

I'm astonished nige is able to implement his own trouser-wearing with any degree of success.


Much as I despise him, underestimating Farage turns out to have been one of the bigger mistakes made by those opposing brexit.

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 08:58 - Jun 21 with 700 viewsBlueBadger

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 22:37 - Jun 20 by braveblue

Getting the vaccines and boosters months early. Saved thousands of lives.
Getting out of lockdown months early.
Points based immigration system.
Helping Ukraine without EU squabbles.
Going to Spain with absolutely no difference to entry.
Direct trade deals with over 200 countries.

All I could think off in a couple of minutes.


Literally none of these are true.

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 09:10 - Jun 21 with 675 viewsMattinLondon

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 08:58 - Jun 21 by BlueBadger

Literally none of these are true.


To be fair all of those points were achievable within the EU.
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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 09:21 - Jun 21 with 664 viewsFreddies_Ears

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 22:22 - Jun 20 by mylittletown

Agreed.
And the 'entitled middle classes' will in turn be far less badly affected than many of those of the less well-off, who will be the main victims of Brexit.


Quite. Many of the people most affected by Brexit are those who voted for it. Their loss is largely economic though. And is thanks to their stupidity / gullibility. My mate in the West Midlands who said they voted Brexit because London gets all the money, so it was a way of punishing London...

Sadly, there are also many who didnt vote for it and lost far more. The loss of the right to work across the EU has impacted many jobs that relied on working x-border. Many families have had to abandon plans to move, eg to support elderly relatives in another country- many relationships involving UK + EU have got seriously awkward. Despite promises having been made, time after time, that there would be no changes to people's rights.
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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 09:31 - Jun 21 with 645 viewsbraveblue

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 08:58 - Jun 21 by BlueBadger

Literally none of these are true.


Literally?

Go on. Do you not accept we had the vaccines earlier than the EU? It’s a matter of fact but carry on.
Be interesting to which others are not true and why.
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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 09:36 - Jun 21 with 639 viewsMattinLondon

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 09:21 - Jun 21 by Freddies_Ears

Quite. Many of the people most affected by Brexit are those who voted for it. Their loss is largely economic though. And is thanks to their stupidity / gullibility. My mate in the West Midlands who said they voted Brexit because London gets all the money, so it was a way of punishing London...

Sadly, there are also many who didnt vote for it and lost far more. The loss of the right to work across the EU has impacted many jobs that relied on working x-border. Many families have had to abandon plans to move, eg to support elderly relatives in another country- many relationships involving UK + EU have got seriously awkward. Despite promises having been made, time after time, that there would be no changes to people's rights.


I don’t think the people who voted for Brexit care about the people who lost out ie freedom of movement etc. If it doesn’t directly concern them then it’s all ok.

I do find it interesting that a lot of farmers and fishermen seem now to be in a worse position post-Brexit than before. On a human level I have every sympathy for them but if I were to detach my empathy then I would simply think ‘sod them, they wanted it so serves them right’.
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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 09:38 - Jun 21 with 638 viewsgiant_stow

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 09:31 - Jun 21 by braveblue

Literally?

Go on. Do you not accept we had the vaccines earlier than the EU? It’s a matter of fact but carry on.
Be interesting to which others are not true and why.


Getting the vaccine first had nothing to do with brexit. The govt picked a very talented person who's team secured great deals - this could have happened in or out of the EU.

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 09:46 - Jun 21 with 615 viewsWeWereZombies

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 09:31 - Jun 21 by braveblue

Literally?

Go on. Do you not accept we had the vaccines earlier than the EU? It’s a matter of fact but carry on.
Be interesting to which others are not true and why.


Whilst it is true that the very first vaccination that was part of a campaign happened in England ( https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55227325 )it was Israel that made the early running in getting a vaccination campaign up and running:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

There was hesitation in the United States (probably due in part to leadership problems) and in continental Europe (probably due to coordinating twenty seven countries rather than four.)

Sadly the United Kingdom is no longer amongst the leaders and the rump of unvaccinated people may be causing the current surge in COVID cases:

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 10:45 - Jun 21 with 577 viewsleitrimblue

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 00:50 - Jun 21 by Eireannach_gorm

Don't be silly, he goes to the seventh son of a seventh son like everyone else in Ireland.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-seventh-of-a-seventh-son-makes-internati


I did say I hadn't visited a GP for 10 years...
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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 10:59 - Jun 21 with 562 viewsDyland

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 22:37 - Jun 20 by braveblue

Getting the vaccines and boosters months early. Saved thousands of lives.
Getting out of lockdown months early.
Points based immigration system.
Helping Ukraine without EU squabbles.
Going to Spain with absolutely no difference to entry.
Direct trade deals with over 200 countries.

All I could think off in a couple of minutes.


The vaccination programme was p1ss all to do with being in or out of the EU.

Do you really believe any countries' lockdown policies were/are dictated by any other body other than their national government?

Direct trade deals.... the DTI is still calling for reviews on pretty much all of them :)

The point about Spain is a fair one, unless you want to live there!

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 11:00 - Jun 21 with 553 viewsKeno

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 22:37 - Jun 20 by braveblue

Getting the vaccines and boosters months early. Saved thousands of lives.
Getting out of lockdown months early.
Points based immigration system.
Helping Ukraine without EU squabbles.
Going to Spain with absolutely no difference to entry.
Direct trade deals with over 200 countries.

All I could think off in a couple of minutes.


"Direct trade deals with over 200 countries."

hehe!!

The Albanian one goes a long way to make up the deficit

and we have now endangered the US one, which was supposed to be 'ready to sign', by fecking up in Ireland

But still the £ is just about holding up against the Zamundian Yamma Yamma Bean so all is good

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 11:01 - Jun 21 with 552 viewsGeoffSentence

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 10:59 - Jun 21 by Dyland

The vaccination programme was p1ss all to do with being in or out of the EU.

Do you really believe any countries' lockdown policies were/are dictated by any other body other than their national government?

Direct trade deals.... the DTI is still calling for reviews on pretty much all of them :)

The point about Spain is a fair one, unless you want to live there!


Being able to get into Spain with no more difficulty than before isn't a benefit of brexit, it's just something it hasn't made worse.

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If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 11:02 - Jun 21 with 551 viewsDyland

If the UK were to rejoin the EU tomorrow on 11:01 - Jun 21 by GeoffSentence

Being able to get into Spain with no more difficulty than before isn't a benefit of brexit, it's just something it hasn't made worse.


Ha, indeed!

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