| KM massively fked that up. 15:59 - Dec 8 with 20639 views | FrimleyBlue |
Down arrow. Boo hiss whatever.
But fken ell.
Let's just enjoy it tho. |  |
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| KM massively fked that up. on 19:01 - Dec 8 with 1495 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| KM massively fked that up. on 18:57 - Dec 8 by You_Bloo_Right |
I see (I think) so it is all Muric's fault?
Nothing to do with replacing our main threat (no, not Delap, he was goosed before coming off but I can't blame KM for keeping him on) Hutch with the so far this term ineffective Burns.
And nothing to do with replacing a similarly goosed Szmodics with the ineffective Clarke.
And absolutely nothing to do with appreciating that, perhaps, 1-0 ahead, with limited options on the bench, maybe, just maybe, 10 minutes of a change to defend like lions may have been the better option.
So whilst "massively fked" may be an over-statement I think KM needs to be honest with us, as he has been in the past, and ccept that he had a part to play in that defeat.
We didn't lose "unluckily" to a good team (AFCB are a good team), we gifted them the three points. |
The only logic I could come up with for bringing Burns on was to try and see out the game if he is considered better defensively...Hutchinson seemed to occupy 2 of there players at all times so that didn't work out! |  |
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| KM massively fked that up. on 19:04 - Dec 8 with 1472 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| KM massively fked that up. on 18:57 - Dec 8 by You_Bloo_Right |
I see (I think) so it is all Muric's fault?
Nothing to do with replacing our main threat (no, not Delap, he was goosed before coming off but I can't blame KM for keeping him on) Hutch with the so far this term ineffective Burns.
And nothing to do with replacing a similarly goosed Szmodics with the ineffective Clarke.
And absolutely nothing to do with appreciating that, perhaps, 1-0 ahead, with limited options on the bench, maybe, just maybe, 10 minutes of a change to defend like lions may have been the better option.
So whilst "massively fked" may be an over-statement I think KM needs to be honest with us, as he has been in the past, and ccept that he had a part to play in that defeat.
We didn't lose "unluckily" to a good team (AFCB are a good team), we gifted them the three points. |
Who did you want to come on then lol.
Yeh Muric is the guy mainly at fault, because we were in control of that game, defending like the lions you alluded to until he went crazy and make a huge blunder. Blame the manager though, the guy who is making a team of players who have never played at this level, a more than competitive outfit.
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| KM massively fked that up. on 19:04 - Dec 8 with 1471 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| KM massively fked that up. on 19:00 - Dec 8 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Fans still talking about Szmodics going up top.... He is never going to play striker for us, he is not an out ball. AAH did fine when he came on as well.
B'mouth had more of the ball, naturally. But they werent creating loads, we defended well vs a very good team. It took our GK to do something inexplicable for the game to change.
We are not dropping points because McKenna doesn't have a plan B, whatever that means. |
As I said bring AAH and Broadhead on for Delap and Chaplin then and play Szmodic as a 10. | |
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| KM massively fked that up. on 19:05 - Dec 8 with 1466 views | ReusersTown |
| KM massively fked that up. on 18:47 - Dec 8 by FrimleyBlue |
Go on then Joe. Back you point up.
What have I said besides this specific thread that puts a stain on twtd this season.
I look forward to seeing it. |
You're just not worth correcting/arguing with id imagine would be most people's perspective. How you're still on here is beyond me. |  | | |
| KM massively fked that up. on 19:06 - Dec 8 with 1456 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| KM massively fked that up. on 19:04 - Dec 8 by BanksterDebtSlave |
As I said bring AAH and Broadhead on for Delap and Chaplin then and play Szmodic as a 10. |
What would that have done ? Would that have stopped Muric going kamikaze and giving a goal away.
Chaplin was our best attacker today, made way more sense to keep him on then Szmodics. But either way I struggle to understand why that would have made a difference. | |
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| Thought you were going on 19:09 - Dec 8 with 1441 views | ReusersTown |
| Thought you were going on 18:55 - Dec 8 by FrimleyBlue |
What would the ban be for exactly. Examples again would be good as then I can change my posting even further as requested last season. |
Clogging up the forum with a non stop stream, no cess pool of hysteria on a regular basis, and that's before we even get into the main reason you shouldn't be here. | | | |
| Thought you were going on 19:12 - Dec 8 with 1426 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Thought you were going on 19:09 - Dec 8 by ReusersTown |
Clogging up the forum with a non stop stream, no cess pool of hysteria on a regular basis, and that's before we even get into the main reason you shouldn't be here. |
Examples. It's literally the same 4 posters having an issue with me. So at least share some examples.
As I've said Phil will tell me if I go ott. So share some examples to back you claims and he can then decide.. otherwise its the same pool of posters not happy when someone says something you don't agree with.
Anyways I'm off now. I look forward to seeing some examples. Please share with Phil via dm and he can then decide if he wishes to ban me. If he does. He does. | |
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| KM massively fked that up. on 19:14 - Dec 8 with 1399 views | ReusersTown |
| KM massively fked that up. on 18:57 - Dec 8 by pointofblue |
I think we could have looked to tighten things up, maybe via utilising Cajuste and Phillips earlier and a change of shape. We were in the game but making basic errors, giving the ball away easily whilst in possession and allowing them to get forward - even if they weren't creating it was still a risk and I wish we had addressed it. But if not for Muric's rush of blood, perhaps it wouldn't have happened. |
That was his only real option as far as I could see it too, but we were having spells with Taylor and Morsy and like you say they weren't really that much of a threat. If anything you could say that McKenna was trying something different today by stalling the usual subs and seeing if consistency over the 80-90 minutes could see us through for the result, seems to be going over some people's head who are claiming he's inflexible. | | | |
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| KM massively fked that up. on 19:14 - Dec 8 with 1399 views | stonojnr |
| KM massively fked that up. on 16:00 - Dec 8 by DavoIPB |
Yep. 1-0 and you bring on a league two player just when Sammie and delap starting to work well together. |
He offered fresh legs, we needed that desperately, Delap was out of gas for sure and wasn't getting support from the midfield anymore so was just a target with no 2nd ball winning.
I'd have kept Smozdics on and swapped Morsy for Phillip's.
But everyone has their own opinion, we win that with the time left on the clock & McKenna is a genius.
The margins in the Premier league are so much smaller than we've been used to the last 2 seasons | | | |
| Thought you were going on 19:15 - Dec 8 with 1391 views | pointofblue |
| Thought you were going on 19:12 - Dec 8 by FrimleyBlue |
Examples. It's literally the same 4 posters having an issue with me. So at least share some examples.
As I've said Phil will tell me if I go ott. So share some examples to back you claims and he can then decide.. otherwise its the same pool of posters not happy when someone says something you don't agree with.
Anyways I'm off now. I look forward to seeing some examples. Please share with Phil via dm and he can then decide if he wishes to ban me. If he does. He does. |
You don't think claiming McKenna has checked out is OTT? | |
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| KM massively fked that up. on 19:28 - Dec 8 with 1348 views | itfcsuth |
| KM massively fked that up. on 16:02 - Dec 8 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I do think that he's done an amazing job for us.
But he does need to start showing in these games why he's now earning £5m a year. |
I think he’s done enough for this club in the last 2 years to merit why he is earning £5m a year. |  | | |
| Thought you were going on 19:30 - Dec 8 with 1342 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Thought you were going on 19:15 - Dec 8 by pointofblue |
You don't think claiming McKenna has checked out is OTT? |
Not just OTT, but a complete insult to question his integrity like that. |  | | |
| KM massively fked that up. on 19:30 - Dec 8 with 1334 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| KM massively fked that up. on 19:04 - Dec 8 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Who did you want to come on then lol.
Yeh Muric is the guy mainly at fault, because we were in control of that game, defending like the lions you alluded to until he went crazy and make a huge blunder. Blame the manager though, the guy who is making a team of players who have never played at this level, a more than competitive outfit.
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"lol"? "insane"?
Really?
Now don't get me wrong, IMO Muric should be dropped (had this game immediately followed the Man City game then I believe he would be).
However, as for the subs.
If you want to swap Taylor out fair play (he was tiring without a doubt but why swap him for a class midfielder like Cajuste rather than someone who may have been a better disruptive rather than creative influence, i.e. Philips?). If KP can't put himself about for 10 minutes then don't have him on the bench.
Hutch has and can play 90+ minutes. Leave him on even if only to make the AFCB LH side think twice. If Burns was brought on with defence in mind (or a dual defence/forward threat) then maybe bring on H Clarke instead and push Johnson forward. Wes isn't cutting it so I don't understand how he gets on the pitch in the circumstances and hence my outrageous suggestion. Leave Hutch on.
Broadhead I thought did well when he came on against Palace and for me would have added more of a threat than J Clarke (there being no appreciable difference in the defensive qualities of either player).
So for me, even like-for-like, KM missed a trick. And that is without considering that our manager should perhaps have more up his sleeve, particularly when we are within touching distance of our first home win of the season, than like for like replacements.
I don't think we were in control of the game in the second half, for a period there it was more like basketball. |  |
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| Thought you were going on 19:43 - Dec 8 with 1277 views | BlibbiBlob1976 |
| Thought you were going on 19:01 - Dec 8 by Ryorry |
"Honestly I think KM has checked out. He's signed a new deal for compensation for town and he's off in the summer regardless. He certainly isn't managing like he wants to make sure we are winning games. It's like development comes before winning and he's back to being a youth coach."
Potentially, it might be argued that publicly accusing our manager of not wanting or trying to win is defamation/libellous/bringing the Club into disrepute. |
No, it couldn’t. You Dee-head | | | |
| Thought you were going on 19:52 - Dec 8 with 1235 views | itfc_statman |
| Thought you were going on 19:01 - Dec 8 by Ryorry |
"Honestly I think KM has checked out. He's signed a new deal for compensation for town and he's off in the summer regardless. He certainly isn't managing like he wants to make sure we are winning games. It's like development comes before winning and he's back to being a youth coach."
Potentially, it might be argued that publicly accusing our manager of not wanting or trying to win is defamation/libellous/bringing the Club into disrepute. |
This is almost as laughably bad as Frimleys post | | | |
| KM massively fked that up. on 20:44 - Dec 8 with 1162 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
| KM massively fked that up. on 18:32 - Dec 8 by FrimleyBlue |
Sorry for the extremeness at FT. But it really infuriated me. I just want to know what is he watching.
"“It was hard to make subs early today because the players were doing so well"
I put a post up on 55 minutes. We were not doing so well. Delap was fked.
They say it take players a good 5 to 10 minutes to get into the game. So we leave it late to make subs sht can happen too.
And then the subs. I just don't get. And the desperation to NOT have a cb on the bench. It's bizarre. It may have been useful.
I'm so bloody annoyed today I really am. I've tried just seeing this season through but I watch football with a competitive mindset and its bloody annoying we re making up the numbers when ashton and KM gave all the sht about not being here to do that.
Honestly I think KM has checked out. He's signed a new deal for compensation for town and he's off in the summer regardless. He certainly isn't managing like he wants to make sure we are winning games. It's like development comes before winning and he's back to being a youth coach.
So fken annoyed.
Anyways will leave you all to it tonight as I will keep going so it'll ruin the evening for you all.
Bur ffssssss |
You have been marginally better recently, especially on other issues away from football. But fck me, the slightest bump in the road and you revert to the worst poster on this board.
KM has checked out?! Piss off. Actually piss off. |  | | |
| KM massively fked that up. on 20:51 - Dec 8 with 1150 views | mrfixit426 |
| KM massively fked that up. on 18:32 - Dec 8 by FrimleyBlue |
Sorry for the extremeness at FT. But it really infuriated me. I just want to know what is he watching.
"“It was hard to make subs early today because the players were doing so well"
I put a post up on 55 minutes. We were not doing so well. Delap was fked.
They say it take players a good 5 to 10 minutes to get into the game. So we leave it late to make subs sht can happen too.
And then the subs. I just don't get. And the desperation to NOT have a cb on the bench. It's bizarre. It may have been useful.
I'm so bloody annoyed today I really am. I've tried just seeing this season through but I watch football with a competitive mindset and its bloody annoying we re making up the numbers when ashton and KM gave all the sht about not being here to do that.
Honestly I think KM has checked out. He's signed a new deal for compensation for town and he's off in the summer regardless. He certainly isn't managing like he wants to make sure we are winning games. It's like development comes before winning and he's back to being a youth coach.
So fken annoyed.
Anyways will leave you all to it tonight as I will keep going so it'll ruin the evening for you all.
Bur ffssssss |
This is one of your shttest takes, ever. And the bar is so, so low. [Post edited 8 Dec 2024 20:59]
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| KM massively fked that up. on 20:59 - Dec 8 with 1130 views | Swansea_Blue |
| KM massively fked that up. on 19:28 - Dec 8 by itfcsuth |
I think he’s done enough for this club in the last 2 years to merit why he is earning £5m a year. |
Just a bit! Taken us from a turnover of about £20M to over £150M or whatever the PL prize pot. We did go big and very early on a new contract, but probably didn’t have much choice if we wanted to keep him. He deserves his chance and we know he’ll be working as hard as anyone to find a way to get the best out of the team. |  |
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| KM massively fked that up. on 21:09 - Dec 8 with 1095 views | algy |
| KM massively fked that up. on 20:59 - Dec 8 by Swansea_Blue |
Just a bit! Taken us from a turnover of about £20M to over £150M or whatever the PL prize pot. We did go big and very early on a new contract, but probably didn’t have much choice if we wanted to keep him. He deserves his chance and we know he’ll be working as hard as anyone to find a way to get the best out of the team. |
And would he have done that on a Marcus Evans budget? As we are now seeing, without competitive finances, (it was more than competitive in L1 but he could only get second place) he's struggling for results. Still £5million a year for getting only 20% of points is good compensation for him. | |
| Veni Vidi Participatur. Now we can get back to competing. |
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| KM massively fked that up. on 21:11 - Dec 8 with 1084 views | BlueStreak |
| KM massively fked that up. on 18:47 - Dec 8 by itfcjoe |
I’m not convinced you’ve picked the right target in this thread, what did he do to fk this up? Nothing. We were the side creating until a rush of blood from the keeper, we didn’t balls it up. We just lost very unluckily to a good team |
Mate, kMc did mess up here as much as it pains me to say.
Get Chaplin off with 7/8 to go and pack the CM with a third man. We didn’t need to score a second and they were just streaming through us. I wish we had a CB on the bench as well as you get one on as well and go 5-3-1-1 and ask them the question. It was just too easy.
Today was a hammer blow. |  | | |
| KM massively fked that up. on 21:29 - Dec 8 with 1035 views | Swansea_Blue |
| KM massively fked that up. on 21:09 - Dec 8 by algy |
And would he have done that on a Marcus Evans budget? As we are now seeing, without competitive finances, (it was more than competitive in L1 but he could only get second place) he's struggling for results. Still £5million a year for getting only 20% of points is good compensation for him. |
Well he overachieved last year. We’ve still got a lot of our L1 team in place, so this was always going to be a big ask. | |
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| KM massively fked that up. on 21:39 - Dec 8 with 1013 views | blueasfook |
| KM massively fked that up. on 18:45 - Dec 8 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I can't believe this post exists.
We were great value for a win for 85 mins, then our GK does something inexplicable. Wtf did you want McKenna to do. Subs earlier, maybe but it didnt make a huge difference, we still created some decent chances.
Bizarre. |
At some point the manager has to start taking responsibility for our poor season. He's been well backed and has a good pay deal himself off the back of threatening to quit in the summer. Is he delivering when the club have backed him to the hilt? Can't keep putting it down to individual mistakes on the pitch, "fine margins" etc. As we know ultimately the manager has to take the can for failure. He's had £100m to strengthen the squad so I certainly don't think he should be immune from criticism. [Post edited 8 Dec 2024 21:40]
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| KM massively fked that up. on 21:44 - Dec 8 with 986 views | Swansea_Blue |
| KM massively fked that up. on 21:39 - Dec 8 by blueasfook |
At some point the manager has to start taking responsibility for our poor season. He's been well backed and has a good pay deal himself off the back of threatening to quit in the summer. Is he delivering when the club have backed him to the hilt? Can't keep putting it down to individual mistakes on the pitch, "fine margins" etc. As we know ultimately the manager has to take the can for failure. He's had £100m to strengthen the squad so I certainly don't think he should be immune from criticism. [Post edited 8 Dec 2024 21:40]
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If you’re judging him on money spent and therefore value of squad, we’re a place higher than we should be
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb/GB1 | |
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| KM massively fked that up. on 21:46 - Dec 8 with 973 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| KM massively fked that up. on 18:10 - Dec 8 by Dubtractor |
It's the problem so many football fans have with over the top language. I get it, heat of the moment and all that, but it's really not constructive. |
Indeed. I mean, calling Muric an f***ing clown, when he has pulled off incredible saves that have been included in the EPL save of the month competitions....
Wow. There's hyperbole for you.
It is possible to be frustrated without being abusive. It would be nice to see a little more tolerance for our own players' efforts on this forum.
(puts on tin hat and runs for cover having used the word tolerance again this week) [Post edited 8 Dec 2024 21:48]
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| KM massively fked that up. on 21:57 - Dec 8 with 946 views | blueasfook |
We were the 6th highest spending club over the summer. Our position doesn't align with that. Granted the premier league clubs have better starting positions but let's look at the summer transfer window. Was a mess due to the uncertainty over KMs future. Pre-season was a shambles and we started the season with some new signings not having had any or very little playing time. We certainly didn't hit the ground running due to the summer shenanigans, and we've been playing catch up ever since. | |
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