| Muric deal done 13:50 - Aug 12 with 4683 views | Mullet |
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| Muric deal done on 14:48 - Aug 12 with 967 views | Herbivore |
| Muric deal done on 14:37 - Aug 12 by Ely_Blue |
And yet he is the only one of our keepers who has attracted any interest from other clubs! |
He's the only one, other than Slicker on loan, that we've been trying to offload. There are reasons why. |  |
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| Muric deal done on 14:48 - Aug 12 with 966 views | SheffordBlue |
| Muric deal done on 14:42 - Aug 12 by Herbivore |
I think if you ignore the frequent massive howlers then you can make a case he's got better fundamentals than Palmer. But I can't ignore the frequent massive howlers, for us last season he cost us a lot of points with those howlers.
We'll need a new keeper if we go up, Palmer is not a Prem keeper. But he's a solid if unspectacular Championship keeper and for now we have other priorities. I really like the look of Charles at Wednesday but it'd be a big gamble to pin our hopes on him. |
Palmer has been quite lucky with some of his howlers - it's really fine margins between the howler costing a goal and not. When they don't I think they get remember less.
Even on Friday he was inches away from having one on Friday when he played a ball across the face of the goal to O'Shea and it went really close to a Brum player who have had a tap in. |  |
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| Muric deal done on 14:53 - Aug 12 with 927 views | Herbivore |
| Muric deal done on 14:32 - Aug 12 by tonybied |
You can say the same re. howlers for most of the back line, midfield and even wingers last year though. The truth is, we were not good enough as a team. People bang on about how Muric's blunders must affect the team's confidence in him, but there were terrible mistakes from all over the pitch. What about Muric's confidence in his teammates? That seems to be conveniently ignored when people turned on him. |
Other players weren't making mistakes of the same magnitude with the same regularity with such mistakes frequently costing us points. Everyon makes mistakes, but he made several that were akin to turning round and smashing the ball into your own net. Every few games in fact. 5 errors leading directly to goals in just 18 appearances, and that doesn't include the other occasions (such as Saints at home) where he should have done much better with both their goals. | |
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| Muric deal done on 14:55 - Aug 12 with 913 views | Herbivore |
| Muric deal done on 14:48 - Aug 12 by SheffordBlue |
Palmer has been quite lucky with some of his howlers - it's really fine margins between the howler costing a goal and not. When they don't I think they get remember less.
Even on Friday he was inches away from having one on Friday when he played a ball across the face of the goal to O'Shea and it went really close to a Brum player who have had a tap in. |
Sure, but Muric similarly had plenty of near misses too. | |
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| Muric deal done on 14:56 - Aug 12 with 900 views | tonybied |
| Muric deal done on 14:48 - Aug 12 by SheffordBlue |
Palmer has been quite lucky with some of his howlers - it's really fine margins between the howler costing a goal and not. When they don't I think they get remember less.
Even on Friday he was inches away from having one on Friday when he played a ball across the face of the goal to O'Shea and it went really close to a Brum player who have had a tap in. |
His poor play led to the goal as well on Friday, watch how angry Grieves was when he shanked it upfield to a Birmingham head rather than pass it wide to him. The defence had split to receive a short pass, as soon as the Birmingham midfielder won the ball, we were in a world of trouble.
Palmer will come unstuck this season, if we try to move back to playing it around the back to beat the press. That looked like the plan on Friday, and we were consistently getting stuck in corners because of his inability to spot a quick pass. It was one of the reasons the ball just kept coming back at us. |  | | |
| Muric deal done on 14:58 - Aug 12 with 884 views | Horsham |
| Muric deal done on 14:01 - Aug 12 by Kieran_Knows |
He's the best keeper at the club and the others don't even come close to him. |
Agreed - I think with everyone fit and available now Palmer is arguably the player that would be first to be upgraded if possible.
I really liked the look of Charles at Sheff W, I think you mentioned we’d been interested previously? |  | | |
| Muric deal done on 15:00 - Aug 12 with 864 views | JakeITFC |
| Muric deal done on 14:22 - Aug 12 by tractorboy1978 |
If they take up the €10m option we will. There must be a half decent loan fee too. A lot of people on here thought we'd be having to let him go for close to zilch as he was that bad. [Post edited 12 Aug 14:23]
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Hadn’t seen the option to buy stuff, thanks. |  | | |
| Muric deal done on 15:07 - Aug 12 with 819 views | nrb1985 |
| Muric deal done on 14:42 - Aug 12 by Herbivore |
I think if you ignore the frequent massive howlers then you can make a case he's got better fundamentals than Palmer. But I can't ignore the frequent massive howlers, for us last season he cost us a lot of points with those howlers.
We'll need a new keeper if we go up, Palmer is not a Prem keeper. But he's a solid if unspectacular Championship keeper and for now we have other priorities. I really like the look of Charles at Wednesday but it'd be a big gamble to pin our hopes on him. |
On his day there is no doubt he is the most talented keeper at the club.
As you say though, you can't ignore the howlers. He alone cost us 7-10pts last year in my opinion.
So yes, on his day he was great, unfortunately it wasn't his day far too often. | | | |
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| Muric deal done on 15:09 - Aug 12 with 806 views | itfcsuth |
| Muric deal done on 14:01 - Aug 12 by Kieran_Knows |
He's the best keeper at the club and the others don't even come close to him. |
That's a bold statement based on what we have seen in our time.
He certainly has some really good attributes, but certainly has some real weaknesses as well.
It's hard to say you ever felt assured when Aro was playing, and for a goalkeeper, that's a real concern, especially for those playing in front of him. |  | | |
| Muric deal done on 15:18 - Aug 12 with 752 views | Ely_Blue |
| Muric deal done on 14:39 - Aug 12 by _clive_baker_ |
Probably the only one we've been whoring out in fairness. |
If you’re good enough you don’t need whoring out…….. |  |
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| Muric deal done on 15:20 - Aug 12 with 736 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Muric deal done on 14:01 - Aug 12 by Kieran_Knows |
He's the best keeper at the club and the others don't even come close to him. |
Yet McKenna clearly disagrees, or he would be playing every week. |  | | |
| Muric deal done on 15:22 - Aug 12 with 719 views | Wickets |
| Muric deal done on 14:01 - Aug 12 by Kieran_Knows |
He's the best keeper at the club and the others don't even come close to him. |
Maybe just a pity he did not manage to show it but good luck to him in the future , |  | | |
| Muric deal done on 15:25 - Aug 12 with 700 views | OldFart71 |
Having been a goalkeeper in my younger days it annoys me that some of these pundits on tv lambast a keeper saying "He should have done this, he should have done that" Wtf do they know. A keeper can make ten great saves, miss one and he's a villain. A centre forward can miss ten chances, take one and he's a hero,
Sad for Muric, but maybe a knee jerk reaction getting him in. Hope he does well. | | | |
| Muric deal done on 15:29 - Aug 12 with 665 views | tonybied |
| Muric deal done on 15:20 - Aug 12 by ElderGrizzly |
Yet McKenna clearly disagrees, or he would be playing every week. |
The guy got booed by his own fans in his return for the club after shoulder surgery in one of our pre-season friendlies. Could it not be possible that both he and McKenna decided his future would be better spent elsewhere? The idiots that take out the disappointment of having little willys (or massive fannies) on one of our own players pretty much confirmed that they were never going to give him a chance to redeem himself. I doubt that would have any good effect on his confidence, and in all probability, its best he moved on because of that treatment he would no doubt have received. | | | |
| Muric deal done on 15:38 - Aug 12 with 607 views | pablo_canooga |
The goalkeeper position is a significant concern. It is unlikely to be resolved during this transfer window, as there are other issues to address. However, if the manager wants to continue playing out from the back, Palmer's current performance could hinder our progress. I believe that Palmer's limitations with the ball at his feet will become more evident this season. |  | | |
| Muric deal done on 15:43 - Aug 12 with 571 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Muric deal done on 14:56 - Aug 12 by tonybied |
His poor play led to the goal as well on Friday, watch how angry Grieves was when he shanked it upfield to a Birmingham head rather than pass it wide to him. The defence had split to receive a short pass, as soon as the Birmingham midfielder won the ball, we were in a world of trouble.
Palmer will come unstuck this season, if we try to move back to playing it around the back to beat the press. That looked like the plan on Friday, and we were consistently getting stuck in corners because of his inability to spot a quick pass. It was one of the reasons the ball just kept coming back at us. |
I don't think that should've gone back to Greaves. O'Shea had made some space for himself though, Palmer should've gone to his right. As you say a pretty poor hump up field to the weakest kitten on the pitch who inevitably did nothing in the air, thereafter I think there's a touch of fortune about it though, not least the bounce off the post. Probably deserved on balance, but a p1ss poor goal to give away. |  | | |
| Muric deal done on 15:54 - Aug 12 with 527 views | Herbivore |
| Muric deal done on 15:43 - Aug 12 by _clive_baker_ |
I don't think that should've gone back to Greaves. O'Shea had made some space for himself though, Palmer should've gone to his right. As you say a pretty poor hump up field to the weakest kitten on the pitch who inevitably did nothing in the air, thereafter I think there's a touch of fortune about it though, not least the bounce off the post. Probably deserved on balance, but a p1ss poor goal to give away. |
Thought that was the one time in the game the CBs didn't cover themselves in glory as well. O'Shea dawdled out and Greaves was only watching the ball and not his man. One first contact header shouldn't put a striker clean through and under no real pressure so easily. | |
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| Muric deal done on 15:58 - Aug 12 with 507 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Muric deal done on 15:43 - Aug 12 by _clive_baker_ |
I don't think that should've gone back to Greaves. O'Shea had made some space for himself though, Palmer should've gone to his right. As you say a pretty poor hump up field to the weakest kitten on the pitch who inevitably did nothing in the air, thereafter I think there's a touch of fortune about it though, not least the bounce off the post. Probably deserved on balance, but a p1ss poor goal to give away. |
Wasn't the only time Palmer's kicking was tepid. Hirst did well a couple of times to just about do enough to stop Klarer getting decent contact in similar situations to the one which led to the goal. He isn't good enough with his feet. Solid enough keeper other than that but he's going to limit us in the way we play this season. | | | |
| Muric deal done on 15:59 - Aug 12 with 489 views | NthQldITFC |
| Muric deal done on 15:54 - Aug 12 by Herbivore |
Thought that was the one time in the game the CBs didn't cover themselves in glory as well. O'Shea dawdled out and Greaves was only watching the ball and not his man. One first contact header shouldn't put a striker clean through and under no real pressure so easily. |
I think that was the biggest disappointment there too, but as a former CB myself, that's where I'd always look to be most critical! Greaves didn't anticipate the risk when he could see that Palmer had connected badly.
No worries though, all good. |  |
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| Muric deal done on 16:03 - Aug 12 with 466 views | bsw72 |
| Muric deal done on 14:32 - Aug 12 by tonybied |
You can say the same re. howlers for most of the back line, midfield and even wingers last year though. The truth is, we were not good enough as a team. People bang on about how Muric's blunders must affect the team's confidence in him, but there were terrible mistakes from all over the pitch. What about Muric's confidence in his teammates? That seems to be conveniently ignored when people turned on him. |
He was a convenient scapegoat for people, but I understand why as I don't believe the majority of football supporters / players truly understand the goalkeeper position/function and how it differs from the other 10 players on the pitch. |  | | |
| Muric deal done on 16:03 - Aug 12 with 456 views | tonybied |
| Muric deal done on 15:43 - Aug 12 by _clive_baker_ |
I don't think that should've gone back to Greaves. O'Shea had made some space for himself though, Palmer should've gone to his right. As you say a pretty poor hump up field to the weakest kitten on the pitch who inevitably did nothing in the air, thereafter I think there's a touch of fortune about it though, not least the bounce off the post. Probably deserved on balance, but a p1ss poor goal to give away. |
To be honest, with the way Birmingham were swarming us then, the only real option he should've taken was to put it in row z | | | |
| Muric deal done on 16:05 - Aug 12 with 446 views | Radlett_blue |
| Muric deal done on 15:20 - Aug 12 by ElderGrizzly |
Yet McKenna clearly disagrees, or he would be playing every week. |
Muric was potentially the best keeper at the club. He'd been Championship keeper of the season in Burnley's winning team, but lost his place to James Trafford for much of the season. He didn't excel playing in a team constantly under pressure (who would?) especially with the ball at his feet & a few very poor decisions at the business end of games cost us points, but largely in games when we were under constant pressure in the second half.
Goalkeeping is a confidence position & it's hard to play with confidence once the fans have lost faith in you so a parting of the ways seemed inevitable, although with Town likely to be under far less pressure this season, he could have been our ideal keeper & potentially much better than Palmer or Walton. Let's hope he has a good season & then we can get some of our money back or try to rehabilitate him. |  |
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| Muric deal done on 16:17 - Aug 12 with 390 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Muric deal done on 15:54 - Aug 12 by Herbivore |
Thought that was the one time in the game the CBs didn't cover themselves in glory as well. O'Shea dawdled out and Greaves was only watching the ball and not his man. One first contact header shouldn't put a striker clean through and under no real pressure so easily. |
Don't disagree, we reacted poorly and slowly to the header. Both Greaves and O'Shea had split though, the ball back to Palmer was nicely weighted and on his right foot, ordinarily I would've expected him to zip a ball in to midfield or open his body up and use O'Shea who had space. Can't help but think it was a pragmatic 'safety first' option from him in the moment, but having decided that the execution was poor, a really limp ball forward. Clarke could've done more to get his body in too IMO, it was easy pickings. Agree once their right back wins that header we don't cover ourselves in glory in that passage though. Crap goal all round. | | | |
| Muric deal done on 16:51 - Aug 12 with 319 views | Vic |
| Muric deal done on 15:20 - Aug 12 by ElderGrizzly |
Yet McKenna clearly disagrees, or he would be playing every week. |
I do wonder what McKenna really thinks about him. We won't know for a long time yet, unless someone can substantiate the rumours. I guess the fact that he brought in Palmer and then a vet keeper this season probably tells it's own story. If that's true it's a pretty big blunder in the transfer market on his part. |  |
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| Muric deal done on 16:54 - Aug 12 with 308 views | dirtyboy |
| Muric deal done on 14:01 - Aug 12 by Kieran_Knows |
He's the best keeper at the club and the others don't even come close to him. |
I agree with you, but also get why Muric isn't fancied.
He seems uninterested, doesn't seem to engage with the team or communicate well. There's erratic stuff he does, but still think he's the best.
Just seems a bit mad if i'm honest! Defo the best keeper....and I though keepers were supposed to be a bit bonkers lol |  | | |
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