| Has Wes Streeting gone too far 13:10 - Sep 30 with 2752 views | onceablue |
In his criticism of Farage and Reform
A ‘snake oil salesman’ really? Whether he thinks it or not should he be saying it???
He is entering Donald Trump territory. At one point I thought he was going to say ‘Farage is a horrible, horrible, horrible Man.
I was always taught when selling something don’t criticise the opposition too much as it can look make you look a bit unprofessional |  | | |  |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 14:46 - Sep 30 with 852 views | bsw72 |
Spent some more time thinking about this after my initial response
I can almost get where you’re coming from about Wes Streeting’s comments, but calling Nigel Farage a “snake oil salesman” isn’t pulled out of thin air. Farage has a long history of making big promises that just don’t hold up.
Take that infamous £350 million-a-week claim about Brexit funding the NHS, it was widely debunked as misleading and basically a political stunt to sway voters. That kind of exaggeration isn’t exactly what you’d call honest campaigning.
And it’s not just the money stuff. Farage’s whole immigration spiel has often been over the top, painting a picture of a crisis that the data just doesn’t back up. Plus, he promised that Brexit would bring quick trade deals and economic wins, but instead we’ve seen a lot of headaches and uncertainty. So yeah, Streeting’s frustration makes sense, Farage’s track record is full of hype and half-truths.
As for the tone, sure, it’s important to keep things professional, but sometimes strong language is needed when someone’s been misleading the public for years. It’s not about personal attacks, it’s about calling out the facts behind the spin.
What’s more worrying is how Farage and some of the more extreme political groups use fear and threats to drive division within communities just to win votes. At a time when the country really needs unity and calm, given all the chaos in the world, this kind of divisive politics only makes things worse. |  | | |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 14:57 - Sep 30 with 829 views | SomethingBlue |
The country is not far off being conned to literally catastrophic effect by a career conman and it needs repeating until hoarse. | |
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| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 15:00 - Sep 30 with 819 views | Libero |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 14:57 - Sep 30 by SomethingBlue |
The country is not far off being conned to literally catastrophic effect by a career conman and it needs repeating until hoarse. |
First thing that con man did when we left Europe? Got a German passport... |  | | |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 16:50 - Sep 30 with 721 views | BlueBadger |
He's not gone far enough, given that Farage is also a traitorous old bigot. |  |
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| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 16:59 - Sep 30 with 704 views | J2BLUE |
I was always taught when selling something don’t criticise the opposition too much as it can look make you look a bit unprofessional
A lesson you clearly took onboard... |  |
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| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 17:22 - Sep 30 with 662 views | Mullet |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 14:46 - Sep 30 by bsw72 |
Spent some more time thinking about this after my initial response
I can almost get where you’re coming from about Wes Streeting’s comments, but calling Nigel Farage a “snake oil salesman” isn’t pulled out of thin air. Farage has a long history of making big promises that just don’t hold up.
Take that infamous £350 million-a-week claim about Brexit funding the NHS, it was widely debunked as misleading and basically a political stunt to sway voters. That kind of exaggeration isn’t exactly what you’d call honest campaigning.
And it’s not just the money stuff. Farage’s whole immigration spiel has often been over the top, painting a picture of a crisis that the data just doesn’t back up. Plus, he promised that Brexit would bring quick trade deals and economic wins, but instead we’ve seen a lot of headaches and uncertainty. So yeah, Streeting’s frustration makes sense, Farage’s track record is full of hype and half-truths.
As for the tone, sure, it’s important to keep things professional, but sometimes strong language is needed when someone’s been misleading the public for years. It’s not about personal attacks, it’s about calling out the facts behind the spin.
What’s more worrying is how Farage and some of the more extreme political groups use fear and threats to drive division within communities just to win votes. At a time when the country really needs unity and calm, given all the chaos in the world, this kind of divisive politics only makes things worse. |
We should be calling him a fascist, a racist, a hypocrite and a blight on our nation.
A man who idolised Enoch Powell, who aped Nazi propaganda who willfully lies and abuses his position as an MP. A man who testified against this country in the USA and has Russian ties, a traitor and a scumbag.
How it got to the point where challenging a racist is worse than being a racist in this country is a saddening mess. |  |
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| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 17:24 - Sep 30 with 659 views | eireblue |
You’re not selling anything.
How would you describe Farage and Reform? |  | | |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 17:41 - Sep 30 with 629 views | NthQldITFC |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 13:12 - Sep 30 by Libero |
Farage isn't gonna shag you, mate. |
He'll shag us all if he gets in. |  |
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| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 18:03 - Sep 30 with 604 views | onceablue |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 17:24 - Sep 30 by eireblue |
You’re not selling anything.
How would you describe Farage and Reform? |
I keep saying I would not vote reform but I certainly wouldn’t back Labour either.
Reform go too far when it comes to immigration and there plans for it but the problem is Labour just haven’t got to grips with it as promised
Labour do not like people with aspirations who want to provide for their families and have the best life they can.
Come the budget they will make further changes that will penalise the aspirational further | | | |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 18:07 - Sep 30 with 597 views | onceablue |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 16:59 - Sep 30 by J2BLUE |
I was always taught when selling something don’t criticise the opposition too much as it can look make you look a bit unprofessional
A lesson you clearly took onboard... |
The opposition to me is other Businesses not the Labour Party or any other political party.
When selling my Business I concentrate on what I do not what my competitors do. | | | |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 19:10 - Sep 30 with 545 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 18:03 - Sep 30 by onceablue |
I keep saying I would not vote reform but I certainly wouldn’t back Labour either.
Reform go too far when it comes to immigration and there plans for it but the problem is Labour just haven’t got to grips with it as promised
Labour do not like people with aspirations who want to provide for their families and have the best life they can.
Come the budget they will make further changes that will penalise the aspirational further |
Righto
Top intell |  | | |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 19:15 - Sep 30 with 541 views | Trequartista |
Isn't that textbook playing the man? |  |
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| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 19:17 - Sep 30 with 537 views | eireblue |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 18:03 - Sep 30 by onceablue |
I keep saying I would not vote reform but I certainly wouldn’t back Labour either.
Reform go too far when it comes to immigration and there plans for it but the problem is Labour just haven’t got to grips with it as promised
Labour do not like people with aspirations who want to provide for their families and have the best life they can.
Come the budget they will make further changes that will penalise the aspirational further |
And Farage? | | | |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 19:19 - Sep 30 with 527 views | BLUEGOLD |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 19:15 - Sep 30 by Trequartista |
Isn't that textbook playing the man? |
No, because it’s true | | | |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 19:24 - Sep 30 with 512 views | Trequartista |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 19:19 - Sep 30 by BLUEGOLD |
No, because it’s true |
They (the truth and playing the man) are not mutually exclusive. Weird thing for Lammy to say, as though he doesn't know what the phrase means. | |
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| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 17:14 - Oct 1 with 366 views | tractordownsouth |
Reform’s bleating over the past 24 hours has been embarrassing. Ridiculous that they’re accusing anyone who criticises them of inciting violence, when they themselves invited Lucy Connolly (a racist who was actually convicted of incitement) to address their conference last month.
And when the government rightly criticises Farage’s policy on retrospectively revoking ILR as racist, they’re falsely claiming that was an assessment of their voters.
They’re deliberately stoking the tensions they claim to be concerned about and shutting down any form of dissent. A chilling window into what the country would become if they ever get into power. |  |
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| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 18:33 - Oct 1 with 318 views | Plums |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 17:14 - Oct 1 by tractordownsouth |
Reform’s bleating over the past 24 hours has been embarrassing. Ridiculous that they’re accusing anyone who criticises them of inciting violence, when they themselves invited Lucy Connolly (a racist who was actually convicted of incitement) to address their conference last month.
And when the government rightly criticises Farage’s policy on retrospectively revoking ILR as racist, they’re falsely claiming that was an assessment of their voters.
They’re deliberately stoking the tensions they claim to be concerned about and shutting down any form of dissent. A chilling window into what the country would become if they ever get into power. |
They're also deliberately undermining democracy using whatever means available in the knowledge that they can pin it on 'traditional' politics with none of it sticking to them.
Here in Notts their leader has lied about the outcome of a local government review to the extent that other councils are going to extraordinary lengths to call them out.
https://www.newark-sherwooddc.gov.uk/latest-news/2025/october/lgr-joint-statemen |  |
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| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 18:43 - Oct 1 with 301 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 18:33 - Oct 1 by Plums |
They're also deliberately undermining democracy using whatever means available in the knowledge that they can pin it on 'traditional' politics with none of it sticking to them.
Here in Notts their leader has lied about the outcome of a local government review to the extent that other councils are going to extraordinary lengths to call them out.
https://www.newark-sherwooddc.gov.uk/latest-news/2025/october/lgr-joint-statemen |
I see that plum who runs the Nottingham County Council has been in the news lately for refusing to speak to the local press. It’s never a good look to go full Lambert. Presumably they dared to ask him questions.
Inexperience and a warped ideology isn’t a good combination. There have been loads of issues with their new councillors. Hopefully that will serve as a warning of the chaos that would ensue if they made it into Government. |  |
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| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 20:31 - Oct 1 with 239 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 18:03 - Sep 30 by onceablue |
I keep saying I would not vote reform but I certainly wouldn’t back Labour either.
Reform go too far when it comes to immigration and there plans for it but the problem is Labour just haven’t got to grips with it as promised
Labour do not like people with aspirations who want to provide for their families and have the best life they can.
Come the budget they will make further changes that will penalise the aspirational further |
If you look at America and think "i want me some of that!"
If you have repressed hard racist views that are disguised as 'patriotism'
If you are deeply racist
If you like you politicians to be convicted abusers and fraudsters
If you pander to the wealthy 'elite'
If you quite like your 'patriots' simping for the other team and spying for Russia's mass murdering war criminals
If you don;t mind mass genicide
If you blame all your woes on those with brown skin
If you think Ipswich Town should be all white white white
If you have no friends of different heritage so don't care if they fear for there future and existence
If you think billionaires deserve tax breaks as 'they give us all jobs mate'
If you think billionaires do actually care about the working classes and are just "one of us"
If your Mum shouts at hotels
If your Dad paints crosess on roundabouts
If you like ragged flags tied on lampposts
If you have a handmade flag mast bolted to the front of your house
If you hate women
If you think disabled people and LGBT+ folk are second class citizens and should be exterminated
If you think all the above is hyperbole
Then you should absolutely consider voting Reform. Good luck to you pal. |  | | |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 21:16 - Oct 1 with 204 views | FBI |
Farage is a Pound Shop Mosley and the more it's pointed out, the better. |  |
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| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 22:58 - Oct 1 with 161 views | bournemouthblue |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 18:03 - Sep 30 by onceablue |
I keep saying I would not vote reform but I certainly wouldn’t back Labour either.
Reform go too far when it comes to immigration and there plans for it but the problem is Labour just haven’t got to grips with it as promised
Labour do not like people with aspirations who want to provide for their families and have the best life they can.
Come the budget they will make further changes that will penalise the aspirational further |
Define who the people with aspirations who you believe they are looking to punish? |  |
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| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 23:07 - Oct 1 with 141 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 17:14 - Oct 1 by tractordownsouth |
Reform’s bleating over the past 24 hours has been embarrassing. Ridiculous that they’re accusing anyone who criticises them of inciting violence, when they themselves invited Lucy Connolly (a racist who was actually convicted of incitement) to address their conference last month.
And when the government rightly criticises Farage’s policy on retrospectively revoking ILR as racist, they’re falsely claiming that was an assessment of their voters.
They’re deliberately stoking the tensions they claim to be concerned about and shutting down any form of dissent. A chilling window into what the country would become if they ever get into power. |
Its a cynical repeat of the MAGA tactic. Try to characterise the left as some agressive violent bunhc of extremists to deflect attention from what you are doing and saying.
Blatantly dishonest, given that nothing Starmer said does anything close to "incitement".
But then we live in a country where Starmer can carefully say he is not calling Reform voters racist, only for the Mail to set a headline in the opposite.... | | | |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 23:36 - Oct 1 with 127 views | onceablue |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 20:31 - Oct 1 by FromReuserWithLove |
If you look at America and think "i want me some of that!"
If you have repressed hard racist views that are disguised as 'patriotism'
If you are deeply racist
If you like you politicians to be convicted abusers and fraudsters
If you pander to the wealthy 'elite'
If you quite like your 'patriots' simping for the other team and spying for Russia's mass murdering war criminals
If you don;t mind mass genicide
If you blame all your woes on those with brown skin
If you think Ipswich Town should be all white white white
If you have no friends of different heritage so don't care if they fear for there future and existence
If you think billionaires deserve tax breaks as 'they give us all jobs mate'
If you think billionaires do actually care about the working classes and are just "one of us"
If your Mum shouts at hotels
If your Dad paints crosess on roundabouts
If you like ragged flags tied on lampposts
If you have a handmade flag mast bolted to the front of your house
If you hate women
If you think disabled people and LGBT+ folk are second class citizens and should be exterminated
If you think all the above is hyperbole
Then you should absolutely consider voting Reform. Good luck to you pal. |
Can you read mate
Look at my post before you sprout your mouth off | | | |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 23:39 - Oct 1 with 123 views | onceablue |
| Has Wes Streeting gone too far on 22:58 - Oct 1 by bournemouthblue |
Define who the people with aspirations who you believe they are looking to punish? |
People like me | | | |
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