| Derby takeover collapsing 08:23 - Jun 8 with 7947 views | le2blue |
Sounds like the guy doesn't have the funds to conclude the deal and it will collapse today. |  | | |  |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:25 - Jun 8 with 4029 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Mike Ashley will be in double quick. |  |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:27 - Jun 8 with 4027 views | DanTheMan |
I expect Mike Ashley might swoop in now to save them. |  |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:32 - Jun 8 with 3952 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:27 - Jun 8 by DanTheMan |
I expect Mike Ashley might swoop in now to save them. |
Points deduction or end of the line….bye bye Derby. |  |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:33 - Jun 8 with 3943 views | Churchman |
Sounds like a right bunch of chancers.
What amuses me is that the football authorities set these rules and deadlines but when it comes down to it, there are no rules and deadlines. Just a load of suits blowing hot air.
Derby will be ok, whether this American, Ashley or Putin buy them. They are far too important a club to go out of business. I hope Evans buys them so the last of his 14 year stain here can be wiped away. |  | | |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:35 - Jun 8 with 3924 views | Butterbing |
I feel so sorry for those fans now. Admittedly the club have been a disgrace for years but all those responsible are gone or on the way out. The fans are left with this mess, not the one’s responsible. And, they barely got anything decent out of the years of overspending and rule breaking. |  | | |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:44 - Jun 8 with 3852 views | ElderGrizzly |
He’s a Michael Knighton for the 21st century |  | | |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:46 - Jun 8 with 3836 views | OwainG1992 |
Feel sorry for the fans but not the club.
They've attempted to be the bully boys of the championship.
Outpaying most.
Silly waged have caught up to them.
Desperate times called, New owner needed.
Enter...Marcus Evans to save the ship. |  |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:47 - Jun 8 with 3829 views | Guthrum |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:33 - Jun 8 by Churchman |
Sounds like a right bunch of chancers.
What amuses me is that the football authorities set these rules and deadlines but when it comes down to it, there are no rules and deadlines. Just a load of suits blowing hot air.
Derby will be ok, whether this American, Ashley or Putin buy them. They are far too important a club to go out of business. I hope Evans buys them so the last of his 14 year stain here can be wiped away. |
It's very reminiscent of the Portsmouth saga. A string of shady "businessmen" who turned out to have no money, if they existed at all*.
* There was one bloke whom nobody seemed sure was actually real. |  |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:50 - Jun 8 with 3748 views | davblue |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:47 - Jun 8 by Guthrum |
It's very reminiscent of the Portsmouth saga. A string of shady "businessmen" who turned out to have no money, if they existed at all*.
* There was one bloke whom nobody seemed sure was actually real. |
If you don't have the money, why would you bother then?
I don't get it, it would be like me trying to buy a 5 million pound house. |  | | |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:53 - Jun 8 with 3728 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:33 - Jun 8 by Churchman |
Sounds like a right bunch of chancers.
What amuses me is that the football authorities set these rules and deadlines but when it comes down to it, there are no rules and deadlines. Just a load of suits blowing hot air.
Derby will be ok, whether this American, Ashley or Putin buy them. They are far too important a club to go out of business. I hope Evans buys them so the last of his 14 year stain here can be wiped away. |
He was apparently pushing the debt repayment 3 years down the line too. All very dodgy
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:57 - Jun 8 with 3663 views | ITFC_Forever |
For the good of football, a "big" club needs to go bust... a disaster for the fans of that club though.
Derby could be the sacrificial rams. |  |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:58 - Jun 8 with 3655 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:57 - Jun 8 by ITFC_Forever |
For the good of football, a "big" club needs to go bust... a disaster for the fans of that club though.
Derby could be the sacrificial rams. |
Imagine the ramifications though |  |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 09:04 - Jun 8 with 3587 views | Guthrum |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:50 - Jun 8 by davblue |
If you don't have the money, why would you bother then?
I don't get it, it would be like me trying to buy a 5 million pound house. |
But if you can successfully pretend to have £5m for long enough, you get a nice house. Which can then be mortgaged to give you real money to spend. Plus the status and seeming respectability to acquire more stuff.
If it sounds like a confidence trick, that's because it is. | |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 09:10 - Jun 8 with 3512 views | J2BLUE |
Hopefully their takeover does not go through before the season starts. |  |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 09:15 - Jun 8 with 3436 views | le2blue |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 09:04 - Jun 8 by Guthrum |
But if you can successfully pretend to have £5m for long enough, you get a nice house. Which can then be mortgaged to give you real money to spend. Plus the status and seeming respectability to acquire more stuff.
If it sounds like a confidence trick, that's because it is. |
Agreed...he's even convinced someone else to buy the house for him to live in (the stadium) and will then be renting it....so he is actually only buying the business and is buying it with massive debts which he's convinced the administrator to push the CVA payments out by 3 years. | | | |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 09:16 - Jun 8 with 3419 views | Keno |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 09:04 - Jun 8 by Guthrum |
But if you can successfully pretend to have £5m for long enough, you get a nice house. Which can then be mortgaged to give you real money to spend. Plus the status and seeming respectability to acquire more stuff.
If it sounds like a confidence trick, that's because it is. |
The very essence of kite flying |  |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 09:17 - Jun 8 with 3416 views | Churchman |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:47 - Jun 8 by Guthrum |
It's very reminiscent of the Portsmouth saga. A string of shady "businessmen" who turned out to have no money, if they existed at all*.
* There was one bloke whom nobody seemed sure was actually real. |
I didn’t know about the invisible bloke. That’s tremendous ðŸ‘ðŸ». I presume ‘Arry got an envelope or two though.
It does strike me as absurd that any Tom Dick or Harry can basically buy and bankrupt an institution and often an important part of the community with little control and send it down the pan and nobody bats an eyelid.
I’m thinking here of Burnley. In the PL, £40m in the bank, solvent. In the blink of an eye they’re bought out by people raising debt against the club itself and with relegation are now in financial trouble. Who sanctioned that? | | | |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 09:30 - Jun 8 with 3274 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 09:04 - Jun 8 by Guthrum |
But if you can successfully pretend to have £5m for long enough, you get a nice house. Which can then be mortgaged to give you real money to spend. Plus the status and seeming respectability to acquire more stuff.
If it sounds like a confidence trick, that's because it is. |
It's how most of the capitalist world economy works! :-) |  |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 09:46 - Jun 8 with 3163 views | Plums |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 09:04 - Jun 8 by Guthrum |
But if you can successfully pretend to have £5m for long enough, you get a nice house. Which can then be mortgaged to give you real money to spend. Plus the status and seeming respectability to acquire more stuff.
If it sounds like a confidence trick, that's because it is. |
Isn’t that how the Glazers bought United? |  |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 09:57 - Jun 8 with 3089 views | MattinLondon |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 08:57 - Jun 8 by ITFC_Forever |
For the good of football, a "big" club needs to go bust... a disaster for the fans of that club though.
Derby could be the sacrificial rams. |
You really think that if Derby go bust other clubs will think to themselves ‘oh dear, we better be more financially prudent’.
The only way things will change in terms of debt culture within football is if all of the major banks call in the loans, limits overdrafts of the major PL clubs. But that won’t happen. |  | | |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 10:10 - Jun 8 with 3002 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 09:57 - Jun 8 by MattinLondon |
You really think that if Derby go bust other clubs will think to themselves ‘oh dear, we better be more financially prudent’.
The only way things will change in terms of debt culture within football is if all of the major banks call in the loans, limits overdrafts of the major PL clubs. But that won’t happen. |
And, although I can't see it happening, you would think the Prem would realise they can't keep almost of all of their mega-bucks to themselves. | |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 10:13 - Jun 8 with 2988 views | itfc_bucks |
I'm really unbothered by this.
I don't *want* a club to go to the wall, but think one probably ought to and given how obnoxious some of their fans were while they were trying to buy their way out of the Championship, I really struggle to muster huge amounts of empathy. |  | | |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 10:17 - Jun 8 with 2957 views | MattinLondon |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 10:10 - Jun 8 by ITFC_Forever |
And, although I can't see it happening, you would think the Prem would realise they can't keep almost of all of their mega-bucks to themselves. |
Why would they think that? From their point of view the PL earns the money so why share it with tinpot clubs in the EFL? If clubs outside the top bubble go bust then in their minds it’ll mean more people will support a PL club. | | | |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 10:21 - Jun 8 with 2925 views | Kieran_Knows |
I'm so far out of the loop of this, but has Mel Morris just simply walked away because he can't be bothered with it anymore ... or has he run out of funds to run them anymore? |  |
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| Derby takeover collapsing on 10:22 - Jun 8 with 2915 views | wkj |
| Derby takeover collapsing on 10:13 - Jun 8 by itfc_bucks |
I'm really unbothered by this.
I don't *want* a club to go to the wall, but think one probably ought to and given how obnoxious some of their fans were while they were trying to buy their way out of the Championship, I really struggle to muster huge amounts of empathy. |
Derby's chancing has been detrimental to many clubs, even our own - this is why I am bothered and believe enough time has passed for the club to wind up. Mel Morris' carnival of stupidity has directly impacted Wycombe and Middlesborough, as well we know. However, Derby hoarded a shed load of talent under Mel Morris, including scuppering a few of our potential transfers by offering fees and wages to players that he knew his club would be unable to sustain.
Derby's frenzy for promotion has a chain effect of other teams feeling pressured to spend big and wreckless to roll the dice of the PL pot of gold. The DCFC fans were being strung along just as bad, but time is up as far as I am concerned. Derby County should be wound up and made to start again, it's as simple as that as far as I am concerned. [Post edited 8 Jun 2022 10:30]
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