| Squad harmony if we replace too many 18:52 - Aug 26 with 4992 views | hunty21 |
Anyone else worried that although we are upgrading our squad thst togetherness and unity might be lacking such as ogbene coming just to cover injuries when we have harness to assist and like of burgess not starting when he was the better of the defenders keeping our clean sheets |  | | |  |
| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 18:54 - Aug 26 with 4498 views | Mullet |
Nope |  |
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 18:57 - Aug 26 with 4457 views | DinDjarin |
No, its the nature of the business they are working in.
Needs to be done if we want to give ourselves a decent chance of competing and staying up.
Always collateral damage when teams get promoted. |  | | |
| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 18:59 - Aug 26 with 4421 views | MK1 |
No. Think most expected us to sign a fair few. Stay or moved back to the Championship. Think McKenna will handle it just fine. The cups, injuries and suspensions will give some a chance to shine. |  |
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 19:00 - Aug 26 with 4403 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
No. All these boys would have, after the celebrations were done, thought to themselves, “I could have just played my last game for Ipswich”.
Most would be hoping not, but they are pros and they know the score.
Edit: My real surprise is that so far, only El-Miz and Ahadme have left for a fee. [Post edited 26 Aug 2024 19:11]
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 19:09 - Aug 26 with 4295 views | itfckenty |
Naa, the lads would have known the game beforehand.
Like anything, just need to work hard to keep their places. |  | | |
| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 19:10 - Aug 26 with 4286 views | BloomBlue |
No I think we'll be fine. Putting on my pure football hat, we finished 2nd in the championship last season, we're bring in players from the Champ or relegation prem teams, all players of similar levels. KM will do a lot of swapping this season, he will know our best chance is to use a constant press approach and that will require fresh players |  | | |
| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 19:12 - Aug 26 with 4238 views | Vegtablue |
Good reason to think not, beyond McKenna's management skills. They should be on their highest salaries ever and are involved at their highest football level ever, so likely full of determination to show that they're capable of holding down a place in the squad and making positive contributions. Not to suggest they'd be satisfied with their lot as bit-part players, but rather striving to deliver their best in training instead of sulking and creating disharmony. | | | |
| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 19:14 - Aug 26 with 4198 views | BlueOura |
Not really, I believe we place high importance on getting the right type of characters in ( as well as good fottballers ), so while it might take a little bit of time, I believe the squad will bond and the new guys will buy into the ethos soon enough. |  | | |
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 19:29 - Aug 26 with 4080 views | Churchman |
Yes and no. Cohesion and playing for each other was crucial in the past couple of seasons. Lots of new players makes this harder, as shown by Cook’s start.
However, we have the best young manager in the business. None of the business we’ve done would have happened without his sanction/wish. The club is doing its best to progress on and off the field.
In McKenna I trust. |  | | |
| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 19:32 - Aug 26 with 4042 views | Alberto_the_frog |
Yup. |  | | |
| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 19:37 - Aug 26 with 4003 views | BlueBoots |
We were never going to keep last season's squad together with players returning from loan and others being released at the end of their contracts. KMcK wants 2 players for every position and a few extras - we've effectively kept an XI from last season, and bought a new one:
Walton / Muric
Axel / Johnson - Woolf / O'Shea - Burgess / Greaves - Davis / Townsend
Morsy / Phillips - Luongo /Cajuste
Burns / Hutchinson - Chaplin / Szmodics - Broadhead / Clarke
Hirst / Delap
Hutchinson and Delap being U21 gives us scope for a couple more extras, so 5 back-ups from (currently) Slicker, Clarke, Edmondson, Taylor, Harness, AAH and Ladapo. I think with 17 of the 27 in the group still here from last season (and breaks between the new players arriving) should be more than enough to maintain the squad spirit and integrate the new players; once the window closes we'll have 2 weeks without a game to work on that as well. |  |
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 19:40 - Aug 26 with 3990 views | Illinoisblue |
Probably. Human nature to be annoyed when told you’re not considered good enough. In any job or industry that will sting. But footballers live with this their whole careers. I doubt what’s happened to our squad and the near total rebuild will surprise too many of them. [Post edited 26 Aug 2024 19:50]
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 19:52 - Aug 26 with 3875 views | urbanpenguin |
Not really. I think it can be an issue, but it was a small group of players before, everybody knew it had to get bigger, and the core members of the squad from the last two years are still there and will be important continuity for dynamics and footballing system.
However, I think the club and McK have been so careful in getting players that are not only good footballers but also the right mentality, good personalities, and people who will slot in. I think they give a lot of attention to this, just as McK gives a lot of attention to interpersonal connections and actually knowing the players as humans rather than just staff. |  | | |
| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 19:56 - Aug 26 with 3820 views | Vic |
Not really. Football now is a proper squad game, especially here at Town, and I think most players would take being part of a squad that holds its own in the Prem. |  |
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 19:57 - Aug 26 with 3801 views | FrimleyBlue |
I don't because of the type of player we've signed.
We had a bunch of let's say misfits who KM turned into a well tuned team
We know have a group come in who all want to prove they can be amazing players at the highest level. |  |
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 20:10 - Aug 26 with 3708 views | victorysquad |
everybody really wants us to stay up and become established. If that happens, then players that may become squad players will still be Premier League players (on Premier League wages). If we don't build a strong enough side, we won't survive, we will lose our Premier League status, and we will lose our Manager. No-one wants to see that happening. | |
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 20:17 - Aug 26 with 3639 views | AVJones |
Yes, and I’m sure its top of mind for the management.
All the new players will be on big money, much more than the players who took us up. Human nature to be jealous / annoyed / frustrated.
It’s of course the name of the game, and hopefully everyone will be kept happy… but an unbelievably difficult challenge to manage. | | | |
| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 20:19 - Aug 26 with 3622 views | SenatorBlue |
I don’t think squad harmony will be an issue. KM makes a point of being honest with players and all of them will know the score, and the nature of our brilliant rise from L1 means the overhaul we are seeing now is absolutely required if we harbour any realistic ambitions of staying up. I kind of see us now as being in a higher calibre KM first half season in L1 and have no doubt he will, with Morsy, create the same spirit with these players. I think we will be quite a team from late November.
Doesn’t alter the fact that when we start to see some of our hero’s depart, it’ll feel like a child leaving home. Those last two years will forever live with us, and everyone that was a part of it. Special doesn’t do it justice. [Post edited 26 Aug 2024 20:20]
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 20:41 - Aug 26 with 3456 views | Nutkins_Return |
It's an issue that will have to be managed but the alternative is not buying better players across the board and accepting relegation. It's too big a step and our players had already taken one big one already. Premier League is a different beast! | |
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 21:45 - Aug 26 with 3079 views | mellowblue |
It is a bloated squad now but I think it great that the last years players have been kept on and given the chance to compete for places, I dare say a few will be moved on in January or earlier as loans. | | | |
| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 23:34 - Aug 26 with 2761 views | Garv |
I think there's enough of the 'originals' that means we'll keep the togetherness.
Woolfenden, Morsy, Burns, Chaplin (latterly Luongo, Hirst, Broadhead, Clarke, Davis, Burgess)
I'm fairly sure all the above will still be with us at least until January. [Post edited 27 Aug 2024 8:45]
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 00:15 - Aug 27 with 2629 views | Guthrum |
The playing personnel may change, but the ethos and direction from the top (Manager, coaches, Captain) remain the same.
Why would those of the old boys who remain after Friday resent the newcomers any more than survivors of the League One team did those who arrived last season? Instead, they are much more likely to again welcome them in and draw both sets together.
These are all people who want to grow and improve, to learn from others. Moreover they are the same "type", lads who have been playing football since childhood. Many of them will already know each other, or have friends in common. The club places great emphasis on character when hiring players, why would they have been any less careful about excluding potential "bad apples" now?
Quite apart from the fact many of the superceded players will, of necessity, be leaving to join other clubs. I nthe thick of a Premier League season, I doubt any of those who remain will have the time and spare mental energy to develop resentments on behalf of departed former colleagues - who will all be going on to good jobs - when that is the general lot of the footballer anyway. |  |
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 01:33 - Aug 27 with 2519 views | pointofblue |
| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 00:15 - Aug 27 by Guthrum |
The playing personnel may change, but the ethos and direction from the top (Manager, coaches, Captain) remain the same.
Why would those of the old boys who remain after Friday resent the newcomers any more than survivors of the League One team did those who arrived last season? Instead, they are much more likely to again welcome them in and draw both sets together.
These are all people who want to grow and improve, to learn from others. Moreover they are the same "type", lads who have been playing football since childhood. Many of them will already know each other, or have friends in common. The club places great emphasis on character when hiring players, why would they have been any less careful about excluding potential "bad apples" now?
Quite apart from the fact many of the superceded players will, of necessity, be leaving to join other clubs. I nthe thick of a Premier League season, I doubt any of those who remain will have the time and spare mental energy to develop resentments on behalf of departed former colleagues - who will all be going on to good jobs - when that is the general lot of the footballer anyway. |
“Why would those of the old boys who remain after Friday resent the newcomers any more than survivors of the League One team did those who arrived last season?”
Barely anyone of note came in last season outside of Hutchinson and Tuanzebe, both of whom had to force their way into the line up from the bench (Tuanzebe taking advantage of Clarke’s issues), and Moore, who replaced an injured Hirst in January. Sarmiento offered depth from the new year but rarely started. Taylor was our biggest signing financially but couldn’t get into the starting XI.
It’s very different this time around where, in all likelihood, there are going to be mass changes pretty quickly - Muric for Walton after the latter did little wrong against Liverpool shows which way the tide is turning.
I’m not saying that the change itself is wrong, but it isn’t really similar to last year. | |
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 08:10 - Aug 27 with 2184 views | ElephantintheRoom |
Yes. Far too many journeymen who aren’t much of an upgrade and IF they reduce/harm the squad dynamic could make the team worse. It’s not as though Town haven’t been down this road before - right Dow to questionable goalkeeping recruitment.
Must be quite disillusioning to have excelled against all expectations and been promptly cast aside by a manager who touted himself for other jobs. | |
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| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 10:28 - Aug 27 with 1762 views | Churchman |
| Squad harmony if we replace too many on 08:10 - Aug 27 by ElephantintheRoom |
Yes. Far too many journeymen who aren’t much of an upgrade and IF they reduce/harm the squad dynamic could make the team worse. It’s not as though Town haven’t been down this road before - right Dow to questionable goalkeeping recruitment.
Must be quite disillusioning to have excelled against all expectations and been promptly cast aside by a manager who touted himself for other jobs. |
Looking at Transfer Market, your favourites have brought in the following:
Norwich - 6
Bristol City - 10
Cambridge United - 11
Are these 27 plus the 11 Ipswich have brought in all journeymen? Were Mariner, O’Callaghan, Hunter, Nelson, Stephenson, Leadbetter, Muhren, Thjssen, Chambers, Crawford, Cooper and the rest of the band all journeymen? Or were they just players brought/transferred in?
Or does your definition of journeymen only mirror when you began to detest football and this club in particular? I mean, to post 100% disparaging negativity on this club, your hatred must be spectacular. [Post edited 27 Aug 2024 10:29]
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