| Third Striker 08:48 - Jan 19 with 3170 views | smithy69 |
Got me thinking about how McKenna is going to “pitch” a 3rd striker to come to us, and then how that would work with regards to possible transfer fee and length of contract.lets be honest - game time is going to be very little barring injury
We will be trying to bring in a 2nd striker if Hirst gets injured, and if he stays fit, then ultimately a 3rd choice to replace AAH
We aren’t going to be paying big bucks for this player IMO and personally, I don’t think we may be able to bring someone in. January is a terrible time for strikers - and to make it worse - it seems most clubs are searching for one
Maybe a little known South American that no one knows about that comes in and saves the day after a injury hits (a la Adrian Paz - but who can actually score) :)
Personally I think this is 1 position - we will struggle. A loan is the most likely obvs - but I’m struggling for fit players who fit the bill - and would be happy to probably warm the bench |  | | |  |
| Third Striker on 09:01 - Jan 19 with 2903 views | Garv |
Not that we'd necessarily sell it this way, but any potential striker coming will know Delap isn't likely to be here for long, and that George Hirst has a patchy injury history. They'll get chances whoever they are. |  |
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| Third Striker on 09:06 - Jan 19 with 2847 views | smithy69 |
| Third Striker on 09:01 - Jan 19 by Garv |
Not that we'd necessarily sell it this way, but any potential striker coming will know Delap isn't likely to be here for long, and that George Hirst has a patchy injury history. They'll get chances whoever they are. |
I can see a loan but even the ones I fancy - seem to be injured
Ferguson at Brighton is out with an ankle injury. Can’t see us wanting to pay big bucks for a 2nd/3rd striker | | | |
| Third Striker on 09:07 - Jan 19 with 2831 views | Kieran_Knows |
If the remit is to sign someone who is simply just a little bit better than AAH, then we are as good as down.
We need someone better than Hirst and who can challenge Delap. Now I appreciate that’s a massive deal to do in an already difficult transfer window, but that’ll give us the best chance of staging up. |  |
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| Third Striker on 09:09 - Jan 19 with 2788 views | smithy69 |
| Third Striker on 09:07 - Jan 19 by Kieran_Knows |
If the remit is to sign someone who is simply just a little bit better than AAH, then we are as good as down.
We need someone better than Hirst and who can challenge Delap. Now I appreciate that’s a massive deal to do in an already difficult transfer window, but that’ll give us the best chance of staging up. |
I agree - but just don’t think that kinda striker is out there. A loan deal I guess is more likely but then that brings issues around probable fitness levels.
For me I would go all in on Latte Lath | | | |
| Third Striker on 09:20 - Jan 19 with 2696 views | textbackup |
You’d sell it as if you prove your worth there’s no reason why you can’t be our main man.
Anyone coming here happy to be third choice isn’t worth having. |  |
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| Third Striker on 09:22 - Jan 19 with 2668 views | textbackup |
| Third Striker on 09:09 - Jan 19 by smithy69 |
I agree - but just don’t think that kinda striker is out there. A loan deal I guess is more likely but then that brings issues around probable fitness levels.
For me I would go all in on Latte Lath |
We won’t know of this striker as we are just fans.
The professional set up we are, with a scouting network and loads of data to hand… I mean that’s for them to sort. | |
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| Third Striker on 09:36 - Jan 19 with 2568 views | Metal_Hacker |
Unfortunate fact is , it’ll depend which league he’s coming from and how much he’ll be on that seals the deal |  |
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| Third Striker on 09:40 - Jan 19 with 2537 views | Clutch |
Any players who have moved and it's not worked out? I think that's a good chance, like Godfrey. |  | | |
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| Third Striker on 09:40 - Jan 19 with 2537 views | Len_Brennan |
If we are still trying to sign Doak, that would be on a permanent deal for £20m+, so any striker coming in now would have to be on a loan deal.
Nobody's contract ends in January, so it's not like we can sign someone permanently on a free, unless they are a trouble maker, have seedy allegations/proven acts hanging over them, or have been cursed with injuries.
We need someone with PL level class, as we can't take a punt on a lower league up & comer at this point; whoever comes in must be effective.
Delap has been overused so far this season; he has also overachieved thankfully, but is still young & has not had a full season of men's football before, so there is a high enough chance that his form could drop, or he could pick up an injury, over the coming months - we've had a few others already, possibly due to the sheer intensity we play at.
We were atill trying to sign Broja for £30m (if we stayed up) before his new injury was revealed by the medical, right into September, when Hirst was a couple of weeks away from returning, so clearly McKenna wanted 3 centre forwards available, and didn't even see Delap as his #1 at that point. We had bid £25m for Fotis Ioannidis before that.
Even if Delap stays this Summer, we will probably be looking to sign another £25m+ centre forward if we stay up; we just can't do it now.
My own sense of it, given that Hirst is now back, is that we may well be in for Kelechi Iheanacho from Sevilla, maybe on loan with an option. Amazingly, he is still only 28, but has top flight experience with Man City & Leicester, & a pretty decent scoring record. Yes, his form hasn't been brilliant over the last couple of seasons, but who better to get a tune out of a player who is down in confidence, than Kieran McKenna.
A different option to Delap & Hirst, and one who could play alongside either, who will hopefully stay fit until the Summer. [Post edited 19 Jan 9:45]
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| Third Striker on 09:49 - Jan 19 with 2455 views | J2BLUE |
Danny Ings?
And yes, I know, he's old and not going to compete with Delap/Hirst but he's experienced and can finish. If we get towards the end and nothing else is done his experience and finishing could be a step up. 2-3 goals over the second half of the season could make the difference.
West Ham have a striker crisis and he was still starting on the bench with Potter talking about the players who could play a false nine in his pre game interviews.
Not suggesting it's ideal but for a deal we could probably do it might be more attractive as the window goes on?
Remember it's a third choice option we need and yes I know he's not Delap... |  |
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| Third Striker on 10:03 - Jan 19 with 2282 views | CrayonKing |
| Third Striker on 09:49 - Jan 19 by J2BLUE |
Danny Ings?
And yes, I know, he's old and not going to compete with Delap/Hirst but he's experienced and can finish. If we get towards the end and nothing else is done his experience and finishing could be a step up. 2-3 goals over the second half of the season could make the difference.
West Ham have a striker crisis and he was still starting on the bench with Potter talking about the players who could play a false nine in his pre game interviews.
Not suggesting it's ideal but for a deal we could probably do it might be more attractive as the window goes on?
Remember it's a third choice option we need and yes I know he's not Delap... |
He’d be perfect but I don’t think there’s any way West Ham sell him this window, with their striker injuries. Particularly to a relegation rival |  | | |
| Third Striker on 10:11 - Jan 19 with 2238 views | FrimleyBlue |
Delaps learning. He's scored 8 goals but he's also had games where he's not good. So that no.9 slot is open to be rotated. |  |
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| Third Striker on 10:13 - Jan 19 with 2228 views | Swansea_Blue |
Easy. ‘Come and work with me. Please form an orderly queue’. |  |
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| Third Striker on 10:19 - Jan 19 with 2193 views | Mullet |
Divock Origi is in the bomb squad at AC
Keinan Davis has done well at Udinese and might fancy another crack at the Prem now he's hitting his prime
We were linked with Wimmer and his team mate Jonas Wind might be someone we've looked at - Danish international, scored a few goals and a big man up top.
It's hard to know who fits the bill exactly depending on finances and availability. If Forest want to move Awoniyi on I'd love him and he's good enough to be the main man here too and give Delap a break.
All depends on how ambitious we are to stay up I guess. Philogene and Doak suggests the answer is very. |  |
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| Third Striker on 10:24 - Jan 19 with 2122 views | SomethingBlue |
The pitch is: you are competing to start games.
Delap is great but is not infallible by any means and this is a long season for him. | |
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| Third Striker on 10:30 - Jan 19 with 2028 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Third Striker on 10:24 - Jan 19 by SomethingBlue |
The pitch is: you are competing to start games.
Delap is great but is not infallible by any means and this is a long season for him. |
Hopefully we end up with someone that is good enough to genuinely compete to start games. My concern is we end up with a body late on in the window that is a bit of an upgrade on Al-Hamadi but not as good as Hirst. | | | |
| Third Striker on 10:33 - Jan 19 with 1998 views | bluesym |
| Third Striker on 09:20 - Jan 19 by textbackup |
You’d sell it as if you prove your worth there’s no reason why you can’t be our main man.
Anyone coming here happy to be third choice isn’t worth having. |
Exactly my thinking too. These aren't the McCarthy days anymore,when most of our business were players to sit on the bench. There is a great opportunity for a player to come in and claim regular football here this season and potentially be our main guy next season if Delap moves on. |  |
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| Third Striker on 10:35 - Jan 19 with 1970 views | CrayonKing |
| Third Striker on 10:30 - Jan 19 by tractorboy1978 |
Hopefully we end up with someone that is good enough to genuinely compete to start games. My concern is we end up with a body late on in the window that is a bit of an upgrade on Al-Hamadi but not as good as Hirst. |
That’s always the risk, particularly with half the league trying to sign a striker. If it goes wrong we’ve got a premier league Ahadme. | | | |
| Third Striker on 10:39 - Jan 19 with 1937 views | Guthrum |
I imagine we're trying to get the best possible striker within our price range (which is not that limited).
They aren't going to be "3rd" or "2nd", they will be a full member of the squad with the best - and best suited - two fit centre-forwards getting onto the pitch on matchday. One starting, the other as a sub with about 20 minutes to go. Plus there will be FA Cup appearances for whoever may not be the regular Prem starter.
Don't think, from what he's said in the past, McKenna would want a player who either furiously sulks when left out or one who isn't bothered about never getting into the team. He wants people who look to improve themselves and compete for inclusion, but without petulance or self-entitlement. |  |
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| Third Striker on 10:55 - Jan 19 with 1824 views | OldFart71 |
Don't see it happening. In order to get a striker anywhere near Delap you would be looking at a huge fee. The powers that be a PR must have one eye on us getting demoted as it's a straight fight between us, Leicester, Everton and Wolves . I have missed Saints out as barring a miracle they are down. Splashing out money that we are unlikely to recoup wouldn't make sense. As I see it the two players likely to be targeted by other Premier League clubs should we suffer the worst would be Dalap and Davis, with an outside chance of Hutchinson as well. Why I say outside chance is because he's been nowhere near as effective as he was in the Championship. Their money and parachute payments would allow a bit of rebuilding with the knowledge of knowing more about what we need for another Premier campaign. | | | |
| Third Striker on 11:01 - Jan 19 with 1780 views | TractorWood |
I think we just need an Ayew like character. Come here, earn well, prolong their career and play the odd 20 minutes here and there. |  |
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| Third Striker on 11:03 - Jan 19 with 1762 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
Delap is young and already carrying too much workload, Hirst doesn't have a great injury record and could easily break down again, and we don't have subs... we have starters and finishers, all equally important.
Also, I'm Kieran McKenna.
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| Third Striker on 11:09 - Jan 19 with 1693 views | glasso |
The same way we pitch everything - it's a squad game, not a first 11 (KM has said that loads of times - I think he even refuses to call them subs if memory recalls?) and that you'll get a chance to show your worth in the Premier League this season.
He could point to plenty of players who were second choice (and some arguably even close to the chopping block) and ended up staking their claim for a starting spot by training well and/or doing well when they came on for 15 minutes.
If you're looking at a squad including League One players who all get minutes, you wouldn't be worried about that. | | | |
| Third Striker on 13:56 - Jan 19 with 1408 views | Vic |
| Third Striker on 09:40 - Jan 19 by Clutch |
Any players who have moved and it's not worked out? I think that's a good chance, like Godfrey. |
What about that lad we were after last summer but ended at Villa? Could fit the bill. |  |
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| Third Striker on 14:08 - Jan 19 with 1309 views | Vic |
| Third Striker on 11:03 - Jan 19 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Delap is young and already carrying too much workload, Hirst doesn't have a great injury record and could easily break down again, and we don't have subs... we have starters and finishers, all equally important.
Also, I'm Kieran McKenna.
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