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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did 21:24 - Mar 16 with 5471 viewsGlasgowBlue

Playing his preferred system rather than playing to the strength of the players at his disposal.

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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:26 - Mar 16 with 3454 viewsPique

Spot on.

Hurst, Lambert and now Cook have all made this mistake.

We just don’t have the personnel to play 4-2-3-1. We don’t have a proper target man, we don’t have a single decent wide player and we’re playing a loanee centre forward as our no 10.

Utter madness.
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:26 - Mar 16 with 3434 viewschrismakin

Which is why they needed to stop the play off tall etc.

It's all about next season and has been for a while despite mathematically being in the mix.

It makes sense why Cook is using his formation. Every other new manager would do exactly the same..

The problem is our squad is awful it really is.

It doesnt matter if you're 4 4 2. 4 3 3. What ever. The individual performances tonight have been awful.

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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:27 - Mar 16 with 3403 viewsPortman_Pie

Let’s hope he just hasn’t had the chance to figure out who to pick with what we have. Very underwhelming start to his charge in my opinion, and agree that he best not be intent on playing his ‘formation’ with the personnel we have
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:27 - Mar 16 with 3400 viewsKeaneish

What’s the right system for these players?

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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:28 - Mar 16 with 3371 viewsfloridaboy

Didn't take long for all the moaning and groaning re Cook to start!

Pathetic!
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:30 - Mar 16 with 3336 viewshaynes_toe1

imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:26 - Mar 16 by chrismakin

Which is why they needed to stop the play off tall etc.

It's all about next season and has been for a while despite mathematically being in the mix.

It makes sense why Cook is using his formation. Every other new manager would do exactly the same..

The problem is our squad is awful it really is.

It doesnt matter if you're 4 4 2. 4 3 3. What ever. The individual performances tonight have been awful.


So they have been awful tonight? According to you it wasn't rubbish.
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:31 - Mar 16 with 3280 viewsMeadowlark

We look like a park team...
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:31 - Mar 16 with 3280 viewsreusersfreekicks

imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:28 - Mar 16 by floridaboy

Didn't take long for all the moaning and groaning re Cook to start!

Pathetic!


Not really. Perfectly valid point
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:32 - Mar 16 with 3261 viewsPique

imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:27 - Mar 16 by Keaneish

What’s the right system for these players?


Honestly, I think our current squad would suit a 5-3-2.
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:32 - Mar 16 with 3256 viewschrismakin

imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:30 - Mar 16 by haynes_toe1

So they have been awful tonight? According to you it wasn't rubbish.


Look at the thread.

I wasnt gonna say it was rubbish at HT as people said I'm to quick go overreact so i left it a little while longer

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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:33 - Mar 16 with 3212 viewstextbackup

I couldn’t pick 5 decent players from this lot to play in a 5 a side tournament, let alone 11 in a full game

We’ll be good again... one day
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:33 - Mar 16 with 3213 viewsbignics

imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:28 - Mar 16 by floridaboy

Didn't take long for all the moaning and groaning re Cook to start!

Pathetic!


Because he has come in and basically playing the same side and formation knowing how poor we are
Either he is an awful manager of the players are worse than any of us think in our worst nightmares
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:37 - Mar 16 with 3169 viewsSwansea_Blue

They have strengths?

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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:43 - Mar 16 with 3095 viewshoppy

Just made that exact same point on another thread, not having seen this one. Quite right.

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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:44 - Mar 16 with 3093 viewsThe_Realist_09

I think any manager will play the system that has brought them success. This season was always going to be a struggle coming in at this point. Literally had next to no training to implement his style. I also think lots of our squad are either unproven this high up the ladder or overrated, but I'm confident cook would get top 6 with a full season. Top 2 is a huge ask with this squad, a few additions will be needed, a striker who can play up top on their own high on the list.
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:47 - Mar 16 with 3013 viewsjimmyvet

imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:33 - Mar 16 by textbackup

I couldn’t pick 5 decent players from this lot to play in a 5 a side tournament, let alone 11 in a full game


Been thinking about this and I can’t think of 3 let alone 5 so to be 7 th just shows how rubbish this league is. We must have patience and hope Cook can see why we can and can make a difference next season.
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:48 - Mar 16 with 2998 viewsMrTown

What are the strengths of the players at his disposal out of curiosity?
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:49 - Mar 16 with 2952 viewstownblue

imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:48 - Mar 16 by MrTown

What are the strengths of the players at his disposal out of curiosity?
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As we don't have a complete forward at the club, apart from when Norwood is at his very best, we need to play two up front.
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:52 - Mar 16 with 2914 viewsLeoMuff

I suppose the only logic to it is that at least he will know who can play 4231 out of our current squad, and move the others on....which appears to be everyone

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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:53 - Mar 16 with 2889 viewsPique

imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:48 - Mar 16 by MrTown

What are the strengths of the players at his disposal out of curiosity?
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In Norwood, Jackson and Parrott we have three strikers who could do a decent job as part of a two.

We have no effective wide players, but in Judge, Bishop, Dozzell (and Downes when back) we have good options for a central three.

In Matheson and Kenlock we have two full backs who are probably better suited to wing back.

And we have OK centre back options and, in Woolfenden, a born sweeper IMHO.

All adds up to 5-3-2 to me.
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 22:01 - Mar 16 with 2822 viewsRadlett_blue

imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:44 - Mar 16 by The_Realist_09

I think any manager will play the system that has brought them success. This season was always going to be a struggle coming in at this point. Literally had next to no training to implement his style. I also think lots of our squad are either unproven this high up the ladder or overrated, but I'm confident cook would get top 6 with a full season. Top 2 is a huge ask with this squad, a few additions will be needed, a striker who can play up top on their own high on the list.


Cook has had little chance to assess Town's bloated squad & bizarrely he came in on the back of 3 wins so he would have looked a fool if he rang the changes. He is also a 4-2-3-1 man.
Subsequently, Town have picked up 4 points from 4 games so yes, we're back in near relegation form. Cook's problem is that we are still just outside the play offs so if he turned things upside down, he would look silly. I would have hoped for more of a turnaround under a new manager, but I think this shows how low the belief & spirit among this squad has sunk. I'd rather the play offs became unattainable sooner rather than later so that we can plan for next season, dump the loan players & Cook can decide if he wants to keep the out of contract players (not many, I hope).

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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 22:03 - Mar 16 with 2796 viewsKeaneish

imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:32 - Mar 16 by Pique

Honestly, I think our current squad would suit a 5-3-2.


We don’t have any wing backs in our squad though.

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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 22:04 - Mar 16 with 2785 viewsMrTown

imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 21:49 - Mar 16 by townblue

As we don't have a complete forward at the club, apart from when Norwood is at his very best, we need to play two up front.


What will 2 up top achieve other than 1 if you can’t pass a football or control a football?
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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 22:05 - Mar 16 with 2764 viewsRadlett_blue

imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 22:03 - Mar 16 by Keaneish

We don’t have any wing backs in our squad though.


Kenlock & Matheson would both be decent wing backs. Plus the invisible man KVY. But understandably Cook doesn't want to throw all the balls up in the air yet (& I don't think he favours wing backs).

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imo Cook is making the same mistake as Lambert did on 22:06 - Mar 16 with 2748 viewsChurchman

I understand what you are saying, but I think he should play his system and find the players to fit it. He said he was going to do this when he came here. Most successful managers do that. Besides, there’s no formation on earth that would suit that gutless shower. No doubt Chambers or somebody will be issuing the usual cliches tomorrow. He or whoever needn’t bother. Heard it all before.

The fact we have a badly run mid League One club that has enjoyed zero standards and mediocrity for years. There are a few decent but mostly sub standard players used to losing tells you all you need to know. They’re comfortable with it. We belong in this division and currently punch above our weight if we beat a top ten team.

Hopefully Cook will be able to change that, but he will need time, support and a lot of players shipping out and his own bringing in. Forget this season. Patience folks.
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