| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… 13:17 - Oct 30 with 32207 views | SitfcB |
Cut by 1.7% - one penny off a pint. |  |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 13:24 - Oct 30 with 13315 views | hoppy |
Will that make a pint £6.19 at Portman Road rather than £6.20? |  |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 13:29 - Oct 30 with 13253 views | itfcsuth |
Made me proud to be British hearing that roar for 1 pence off a pint. [Post edited 30 Oct 2024 14:50]
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 13:34 - Oct 30 with 13210 views | catch74 |
Cool - so, owning a pub that won’t even touch the sides of the raise to
minimum wage (obvs all for this but no help provided to pay for it) , the hike in employers NI contribution and the increase in business rates.
So just to warn you prices will go up. |  |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 13:38 - Oct 30 with 13154 views | baxterbasics |
I don't even drink, and yet couldn't help but feel my heart soaring at this news. |  |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 13:39 - Oct 30 with 13146 views | NeedhamChris |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 13:34 - Oct 30 by catch74 |
Cool - so, owning a pub that won’t even touch the sides of the raise to
minimum wage (obvs all for this but no help provided to pay for it) , the hike in employers NI contribution and the increase in business rates.
So just to warn you prices will go up. |
Why should government subsidise companies to provide a fair wage? |  |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 13:48 - Oct 30 with 13063 views | catch74 |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 13:39 - Oct 30 by NeedhamChris |
Why should government subsidise companies to provide a fair wage? |
I didn’t say they had to.
I just said we’d have to put prices up to cover the increase in minimum wage, on top of
business rates and NI employers contribution, so not to expect a reduction in the price of a pint. | |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:07 - Oct 30 with 12966 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 13:39 - Oct 30 by NeedhamChris |
Why should government subsidise companies to provide a fair wage? |
They shouldn't. But if small businesses in hospitality, which still hasn't fully recovered from Covid, are seeing their costs go up with regards to wages, NI, business rates etc, people should not complain when the prices go up.
Smaller local pubs, cafes and restaurants will fall by the wayside and we will be left with chains like Wetherspoons and Costa Coffee.
If people are happy with that then fine. But once they are all that is left they will hike their prices up. [Post edited 30 Oct 2024 14:08]
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:19 - Oct 30 with 12876 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:07 - Oct 30 by GlasgowBlue |
They shouldn't. But if small businesses in hospitality, which still hasn't fully recovered from Covid, are seeing their costs go up with regards to wages, NI, business rates etc, people should not complain when the prices go up.
Smaller local pubs, cafes and restaurants will fall by the wayside and we will be left with chains like Wetherspoons and Costa Coffee.
If people are happy with that then fine. But once they are all that is left they will hike their prices up. [Post edited 30 Oct 2024 14:08]
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Going to be difficult to keep inflation down to 2%. |  |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:20 - Oct 30 with 12874 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:19 - Oct 30 by Pinewoodblue |
Going to be difficult to keep inflation down to 2%. |
OBR forecasts it rising to 2.6 due to the budget. | |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:26 - Oct 30 with 12823 views | WeWereZombies |
So when it comes to tax on beer, Reeves is the draught excluder... |  |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:30 - Oct 30 with 12796 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:07 - Oct 30 by GlasgowBlue |
They shouldn't. But if small businesses in hospitality, which still hasn't fully recovered from Covid, are seeing their costs go up with regards to wages, NI, business rates etc, people should not complain when the prices go up.
Smaller local pubs, cafes and restaurants will fall by the wayside and we will be left with chains like Wetherspoons and Costa Coffee.
If people are happy with that then fine. But once they are all that is left they will hike their prices up. [Post edited 30 Oct 2024 14:08]
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You can't take things in isolation (I appreciate you will as you own a cafe) because the full budget is intended to grow the economy... and a growing economy will mean more people in local pubs, cafes and restaurants, regardless of a penny off the pint.
Saying chains like Wetherspoons and Costa Coffee will be all we're left with is ridiculous doom-mongering. |  |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:35 - Oct 30 with 12755 views | TresBonne |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:19 - Oct 30 by Pinewoodblue |
Going to be difficult to keep inflation down to 2%. |
Reeves says hiring an employee on min wage will now cost over 10% more.
Get ready for the price of everything to go up massively.
That's the bottom line |  | | |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:41 - Oct 30 with 12717 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:30 - Oct 30 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You can't take things in isolation (I appreciate you will as you own a cafe) because the full budget is intended to grow the economy... and a growing economy will mean more people in local pubs, cafes and restaurants, regardless of a penny off the pint.
Saying chains like Wetherspoons and Costa Coffee will be all we're left with is ridiculous doom-mongering. |
Easy to say more people in local pubs, cafes etc, but with the high numbers in those already closing each year, the budget isn't suddenly going to change people's finances to an extent that they'll suddenly start flowing into smaller cafes and pubs etc. it will help some, but not many, energy bills still going up, travel still costs a fortune.
I can just see more businesses opening up with smaller opening times which again doesn't help the recruitment side of things for those who need a balancing act between working and getting benefits. |  |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:42 - Oct 30 with 12702 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:35 - Oct 30 by TresBonne |
Reeves says hiring an employee on min wage will now cost over 10% more.
Get ready for the price of everything to go up massively.
That's the bottom line |
In the last round of wage increases, an employer I know had their monthly wages increase by £4000 that per month.
Customers then bemoaned the increase in prices.. no sht. | |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:46 - Oct 30 with 12683 views | J2BLUE |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:42 - Oct 30 by FrimleyBlue |
In the last round of wage increases, an employer I know had their monthly wages increase by £4000 that per month.
Customers then bemoaned the increase in prices.. no sht. |
Fair enough. It's not for the lowest paid to subsidise the rest of society. |  |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:49 - Oct 30 with 12654 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:41 - Oct 30 by FrimleyBlue |
Easy to say more people in local pubs, cafes etc, but with the high numbers in those already closing each year, the budget isn't suddenly going to change people's finances to an extent that they'll suddenly start flowing into smaller cafes and pubs etc. it will help some, but not many, energy bills still going up, travel still costs a fortune.
I can just see more businesses opening up with smaller opening times which again doesn't help the recruitment side of things for those who need a balancing act between working and getting benefits. |
I neither said "suddenly" nor "flowing".
From initial listen, and without having chance to digest everything, it sounded like a bold budget and one that's going to raise money in lots of areas. They were given a bit of a hospital ball by the Tories but I think they've brought it down and controlled it well. My initial thought is it sounds promising. | |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:51 - Oct 30 with 12625 views | Ryorry |
I love my beer, but (sorry to be controversial) this seems absolutely nonsensical to me - far from supporting the NHS, isn't it just going to result in increased drinking & therefore eventually even further strain on it? |  |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:51 - Oct 30 with 12618 views | ArmaghBlue |
19p a year saved  |  | | |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:52 - Oct 30 with 12612 views | leitrimblue |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:07 - Oct 30 by GlasgowBlue |
They shouldn't. But if small businesses in hospitality, which still hasn't fully recovered from Covid, are seeing their costs go up with regards to wages, NI, business rates etc, people should not complain when the prices go up.
Smaller local pubs, cafes and restaurants will fall by the wayside and we will be left with chains like Wetherspoons and Costa Coffee.
If people are happy with that then fine. But once they are all that is left they will hike their prices up. [Post edited 30 Oct 2024 14:08]
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Independent restaurants and cafes closing down at a incredible speed in Ireland at mo.
If we just ignore this as you say we risk being left with the same bland chains and nothing else
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/20/its-desperation-irelands-restauran |  | | |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:57 - Oct 30 with 12523 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:35 - Oct 30 by TresBonne |
Reeves says hiring an employee on min wage will now cost over 10% more.
Get ready for the price of everything to go up massively.
That's the bottom line |
Certainly true at my place. We pay above NMW but that will have to go up if we're to maintain that ethos. The last increase to minimum wage contributed an on cost of about £5m annually for us that we had no choice but to pass on to the customer.
Not that I disagree with it in principle, as a society we need mechanisms to address the significant wealth inequality in this country and to redistribute it more evenly, but it certainly comes at a cost. |  | | |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:59 - Oct 30 with 12506 views | Ftnfwest |
i want to go where they're drinking! |  | | |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 15:00 - Oct 30 with 12496 views | Blueschev |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:30 - Oct 30 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You can't take things in isolation (I appreciate you will as you own a cafe) because the full budget is intended to grow the economy... and a growing economy will mean more people in local pubs, cafes and restaurants, regardless of a penny off the pint.
Saying chains like Wetherspoons and Costa Coffee will be all we're left with is ridiculous doom-mongering. |
It's not ridiculous though is it? Go to nearly any town or city in this country and they all have the same crappy chain pubs / cafes / bars / shops. |  | | |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 15:01 - Oct 30 with 12472 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 14:51 - Oct 30 by Ryorry |
I love my beer, but (sorry to be controversial) this seems absolutely nonsensical to me - far from supporting the NHS, isn't it just going to result in increased drinking & therefore eventually even further strain on it? |
You think a saving of 1p a pint is going to make people go on crazy booze-benders?! | |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 15:02 - Oct 30 with 12451 views | NeedhamChris |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 15:00 - Oct 30 by Blueschev |
It's not ridiculous though is it? Go to nearly any town or city in this country and they all have the same crappy chain pubs / cafes / bars / shops. |
Ah so the evidence that the Labour budget is going to cause this, is your claim that it's already happened? | |
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| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 15:04 - Oct 30 with 12436 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Loudest cheer in the commons is for the cut in draught duty… on 15:00 - Oct 30 by Blueschev |
It's not ridiculous though is it? Go to nearly any town or city in this country and they all have the same crappy chain pubs / cafes / bars / shops. |
With a charity shop on one side and an empty shop on the other. | |
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