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So six people can now meet outside 17:20 - May 28 with 7648 viewsgtsb1966

Big gamble from the government there. If there is a second spike they will get slaughtered for that. Fingers crossed there isn't.
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Monday. (n/t) on 18:54 - May 28 with 3175 viewsBloots

So six people can now meet outside on 18:51 - May 28 by Pendejo

So I can organise a BBQ in my dad's garden?

Dad, uncle, sister, her boyfriend, my wife and i.

Fire up the barbie! Destination Ipswich Saturday!



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So six people can now meet outside on 18:57 - May 28 with 3188 viewsShawsey

To much to soon. Until the death rate per day is below 50ish, the lockdown should continue as it is. Hundreds of people still dying everyday isn't the right time at all. Why risk it now, after months of sacrifice. Just crazy.
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So six people can now meet outside on 18:58 - May 28 with 3183 viewsbluejacko

So six people can now meet outside on 18:51 - May 28 by Pendejo

So I can organise a BBQ in my dad's garden?

Dad, uncle, sister, her boyfriend, my wife and i.

Fire up the barbie! Destination Ipswich Saturday!


Yep don’t go inside and keep your distance, not hard to understand is it ?
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I'll be fine..... on 18:58 - May 28 with 3172 viewsHerbivore

I'll be fine..... on 17:55 - May 28 by Bloots

….I haven't got 5 friends.


When I first saw that I assumed it was J2.

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So six people can now meet outside on 19:05 - May 28 with 3156 viewsm14_blue

So six people can now meet outside on 18:34 - May 28 by Wicksy

Yeah - it's almost as if they're trying bury the Cummings fiasco with some good news


I really hope that isn’t the case but it’s difficult not to think it.

If so, and it turns out they’ve ignored or manipulated scientific advice for political gain, in a pandemic, that’s not great.

Can someone with more knowledge in the field (sparks) tell me if there’s potentially a scenario where a PM can be held accountable legally if his demonstrable negligence leads to unnecessary deaths?
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So six people can now meet outside on 19:08 - May 28 with 3149 viewsShawsey

So six people can now meet outside on 19:05 - May 28 by m14_blue

I really hope that isn’t the case but it’s difficult not to think it.

If so, and it turns out they’ve ignored or manipulated scientific advice for political gain, in a pandemic, that’s not great.

Can someone with more knowledge in the field (sparks) tell me if there’s potentially a scenario where a PM can be held accountable legally if his demonstrable negligence leads to unnecessary deaths?


I have no legal knowledge, but if he can't legally, we need to change the law.
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So six people can now meet outside on 19:10 - May 28 with 3144 viewssparks

So six people can now meet outside on 19:05 - May 28 by m14_blue

I really hope that isn’t the case but it’s difficult not to think it.

If so, and it turns out they’ve ignored or manipulated scientific advice for political gain, in a pandemic, that’s not great.

Can someone with more knowledge in the field (sparks) tell me if there’s potentially a scenario where a PM can be held accountable legally if his demonstrable negligence leads to unnecessary deaths?


Very much doubt that would be feasible. Would certainly be novel.

Of course- even if it were possible, a government with a big majority could change the law to exempt itself!

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So six people can now meet outside on 19:11 - May 28 with 3139 viewsm14_blue

So six people can now meet outside on 19:10 - May 28 by sparks

Very much doubt that would be feasible. Would certainly be novel.

Of course- even if it were possible, a government with a big majority could change the law to exempt itself!


Cheers, interesting.

Was more theoretical than specific anyway.
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I'll be fine..... on 19:31 - May 28 with 3110 viewsjeera

I'll be fine..... on 18:58 - May 28 by Herbivore

When I first saw that I assumed it was J2.


I thought it was Fishers!

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So six people can now meet outside on 19:57 - May 28 with 3074 viewsBlueBadger

So six people can now meet outside on 18:57 - May 28 by Shawsey

To much to soon. Until the death rate per day is below 50ish, the lockdown should continue as it is. Hundreds of people still dying everyday isn't the right time at all. Why risk it now, after months of sacrifice. Just crazy.


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There has been a bit of a bump on 20:02 - May 28 with 3051 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

There has been a bit of a bump on 18:02 - May 28 by Guthrum

in the smoothed (7-day average) figure for infections, rising by about 700, with signs of a slight "uptick" in the corresponding smoothed daily deaths numbers over the last couple of days as well.


We are doing the aborted landing trajectory which likely terminates with an almighty crash!
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So six people can now meet outside on 20:44 - May 28 with 3001 viewsfactual_blue

Mrs Factual and I were hoping to meet up with three other people - our hopes have been shattered.

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So six people can now meet outside on 20:55 - May 28 with 2992 viewsfactual_blue

So six people can now meet outside on 19:57 - May 28 by BlueBadger

Because Boris needs a Distraction From Dom.


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So six people can now meet outside on 21:29 - May 28 with 2960 viewsgtsb1966

So six people can now meet outside on 20:55 - May 28 by factual_blue

johnson and cummings - dick and dom


Or Sub & Dom.
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So six people can now meet outside on 21:42 - May 28 with 2949 viewsKing_of_Portman_Rd

So six people can now meet outside on 17:55 - May 28 by reusersfreekicks

Agree - older teenagers and early 20s are out and about together - no police anywhere to be seen even though a park is the obvious location.
Plus people are already meeting in bigger groups from more than 1 household already. As long as 2m rule kept number of people doesn't seem all that relevant?


Speaking as a police officer I’ve been to p!$$ on many people’s parties and gatherings but there simply isn’t enough police to cover the ‘actual criminal activity’ let alone that wishy washy hastily cobbled together “guidance” this govt thought was appropriate.
Police powers are pretty much useless when it comes to COVID and if I send people packing they’ll go elsewhere or simply return in half an hour knowing police simply can’t monitor every public place
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So six people can now meet outside on 21:42 - May 28 with 2947 viewsNthsuffolkblue

What did the scientific advisors have to say about it?

Or indeed about whether Cummings broke the rules while we are about it.

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So six people can now meet outside on 21:54 - May 28 with 2928 viewsPlums

Gambling isn’t something a government should be doing in a pandemic.

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So six people can now meet outside on 09:24 - May 29 with 2824 viewsElephantintheRoom

Not at all - in theory.

People who have not got the virus cant give it to each other no matter how hard they try. In most parts of the country there is no evidence of any viruses in households locked down for 9 weeks... and even IF they have the virus keeping a distance outside should be adequate protection.

Plus this is herd immunity in disguise with the added benefit of track and tracing.... they have to find some cases from somewhere to get the track and trace system operating.... and this might trigger that - with the added bonus of knowing who your recent contacts are.

The big worry about the this somewhat reckless approach is that we are still not testing or isolating the only people actually in contact with the disease at least once a week.... NHS staff, carers etc. - which simply HAS to be where the virus is still coming from, unless you see to the somewhat worrying results of the only UK survey so far which showed a mere 70% of positive tests come from asymptomatic people.

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So six people can now meet outside on 09:33 - May 29 with 2813 viewsGlasgowBlue

In Scotland it’s 8 people. And the R rate is higher up here.

Sturgeon trying to deflect from the Cummings row?

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So six people can now meet outside on 09:38 - May 29 with 2799 viewsStokieBlue

So six people can now meet outside on 09:24 - May 29 by ElephantintheRoom

Not at all - in theory.

People who have not got the virus cant give it to each other no matter how hard they try. In most parts of the country there is no evidence of any viruses in households locked down for 9 weeks... and even IF they have the virus keeping a distance outside should be adequate protection.

Plus this is herd immunity in disguise with the added benefit of track and tracing.... they have to find some cases from somewhere to get the track and trace system operating.... and this might trigger that - with the added bonus of knowing who your recent contacts are.

The big worry about the this somewhat reckless approach is that we are still not testing or isolating the only people actually in contact with the disease at least once a week.... NHS staff, carers etc. - which simply HAS to be where the virus is still coming from, unless you see to the somewhat worrying results of the only UK survey so far which showed a mere 70% of positive tests come from asymptomatic people.


Your first and second paragraphs totally contradict each other.

How can it be herd immunity through the back door if you think that most households in the country haven't shown any virus for 9 weeks and thus can't pass it to each other?

Latest results are that 7% of the country have had it:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52837593

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So six people can now meet outside on 09:51 - May 29 with 2775 viewsSteve_M

So six people can now meet outside on 09:33 - May 29 by GlasgowBlue

In Scotland it’s 8 people. And the R rate is higher up here.

Sturgeon trying to deflect from the Cummings row?


I heard you can sunbathe as well, that's really taking the piss.

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So six people can now meet outside on 09:52 - May 29 with 2772 viewsJammyDodgerrr

So six people can now meet outside on 18:57 - May 28 by Shawsey

To much to soon. Until the death rate per day is below 50ish, the lockdown should continue as it is. Hundreds of people still dying everyday isn't the right time at all. Why risk it now, after months of sacrifice. Just crazy.


Totally agree.

Seven day rolling averages suggest we have plateaued and they are not dropping quick enough. It is literally throwing peoples lives away to save the economy.

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So six people can now meet outside on 09:57 - May 29 with 2765 viewsDarkHorse

So six people can now meet outside on 09:51 - May 29 by Steve_M

I heard you can sunbathe as well, that's really taking the piss.


It really is, everyone knows that sunshine is more deadly to the Scots than any virus.
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So six people can now meet outside on 10:40 - May 29 with 2744 viewsGlasgowBlue

So six people can now meet outside on 09:51 - May 29 by Steve_M

I heard you can sunbathe as well, that's really taking the piss.


They’re just tormenting is with that aren’t they.

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So six people can now meet outside on 10:43 - May 29 with 2739 viewsLibero

So six people can now meet outside on 09:24 - May 29 by ElephantintheRoom

Not at all - in theory.

People who have not got the virus cant give it to each other no matter how hard they try. In most parts of the country there is no evidence of any viruses in households locked down for 9 weeks... and even IF they have the virus keeping a distance outside should be adequate protection.

Plus this is herd immunity in disguise with the added benefit of track and tracing.... they have to find some cases from somewhere to get the track and trace system operating.... and this might trigger that - with the added bonus of knowing who your recent contacts are.

The big worry about the this somewhat reckless approach is that we are still not testing or isolating the only people actually in contact with the disease at least once a week.... NHS staff, carers etc. - which simply HAS to be where the virus is still coming from, unless you see to the somewhat worrying results of the only UK survey so far which showed a mere 70% of positive tests come from asymptomatic people.


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