| We MUST sell Andre in the summer 00:20 - Apr 6 with 7270 views | Lowie |
Hear me out...
I don't doubt there is a player there, potentially a really good player at that. He is one of our own.
However - he has been the constant in midfield this year and he offers virtually nothing. He has a nice touch and makes the odd tidy pass, but he doesn't create, doesn't tackle and often goes missing. In short, he is a luxury item and one we can't afford if we have any hope of getting out of this league next year.
Cook will have to rip apart this squad, of that there is no doubt. What we don't know is the extent to which he'll be backed in the transfer market. We won't mount a convincing promotion push with freebies alone. We should use any fee from Andre to buy the attacking players that we'll need to get us up.
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 08:23 - Apr 6 with 2030 views | hype313 |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 08:21 - Apr 6 by Herbivore |
Quite. It requires some pretty impressive mental gymnastics to believe both that (a) Dozzell isn't good enough for us as a League 1 side, and (b) he's someone we can cash in on for a sizeable fee. Madness. |
Yep, I can't Square that one either.
A real head scratcher. |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 08:28 - Apr 6 with 1996 views | chrismakin |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 08:10 - Apr 6 by Coastalblue |
He's 22 in a couple of weeks, there has to be a point where potential starts to become ability and that time is running down quickly for him.
I genuinely can't see us getting much for him now, clubs are going to have to watch every penny aside from the really big boys and they wouldn't have any interest in him. |
Next couple of years will be key for him without a doubt |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:28 - Apr 6 with 1958 views | 26_Paz |
Would bite anyone’s hand off for anything over a million |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:29 - Apr 6 with 1964 views | chicoazul |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 07:11 - Apr 6 by chrismakin |
You'd be looking at at least £2.5 Mill with additional appearance fee's etc on top easily.
Football's a mugs game when it comes to selling, IF he's still hot property, they will buy him, if he's not, then he's no longer good enough for a starting place. |
Ahhahahahaha |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:30 - Apr 6 with 1962 views | MrTown |
He won't be backed with a transfer budget in the market, we know that, but on wages we can compete with anybody bar maybe Sunderland at this level.
There are going to be a lot of good footballers become free agents in the summer at this level, and PC has a good opportunity to build a side for him. [Post edited 6 Apr 2021 10:07]
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:31 - Apr 6 with 1959 views | LeoMuff |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 08:01 - Apr 6 by chrismakin |
Like i've already said, we won't be selling Andre based on this season, it would be based on potential. |
We won’t get £2m it’s simple, he has shown very little potential over a whole season in league 1. |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:35 - Apr 6 with 1956 views | MrTown |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 07:11 - Apr 6 by chrismakin |
You'd be looking at at least £2.5 Mill with additional appearance fee's etc on top easily.
Football's a mugs game when it comes to selling, IF he's still hot property, they will buy him, if he's not, then he's no longer good enough for a starting place. |
£2.5m is huge stretch for someone who doesn't even shine in a poor League 1 side.
You might get £500k.
Would snap your hand off for £500k, but even think that is a stretch.
People will make excuses for him, needs better players around him, needs more movement etc, but the reality is unfortunately he just isn't good enough - which is a real shame. | |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:37 - Apr 6 with 1951 views | SomethingBlue |
He's held it all together without a regular, reliable partner and without the sort of stabilising, more physical presence who'd give him a platform to play. Has had to develop a lot of the messier aspects of his game as a result. I think he's done well and that in a well-balanced team we would see much more from him. One of the very few who needs to stay. | |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:41 - Apr 6 with 1939 views | LeoMuff |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:37 - Apr 6 by SomethingBlue |
He's held it all together without a regular, reliable partner and without the sort of stabilising, more physical presence who'd give him a platform to play. Has had to develop a lot of the messier aspects of his game as a result. I think he's done well and that in a well-balanced team we would see much more from him. One of the very few who needs to stay. |
I agree clearly could be decent and for the money we would get worth keeping unless he is on silly wages. I would really like us to keep Downes but he surely the only one worth any serious cash. | |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:41 - Apr 6 with 1939 views | MrTown |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:37 - Apr 6 by SomethingBlue |
He's held it all together without a regular, reliable partner and without the sort of stabilising, more physical presence who'd give him a platform to play. Has had to develop a lot of the messier aspects of his game as a result. I think he's done well and that in a well-balanced team we would see much more from him. One of the very few who needs to stay. |
Do me a favour, what has he held together? He's part of a midfield that looks far too anonymous time after time.
People can make excuses for him, needs a partner, needs stability, better player we'll see more from him.
He just isn't good enough. | |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:43 - Apr 6 with 1937 views | Herbivore |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:37 - Apr 6 by SomethingBlue |
He's held it all together without a regular, reliable partner and without the sort of stabilising, more physical presence who'd give him a platform to play. Has had to develop a lot of the messier aspects of his game as a result. I think he's done well and that in a well-balanced team we would see much more from him. One of the very few who needs to stay. |
Downes will be worth less than he was last summer when the bidding never got over £2m. |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:46 - Apr 6 with 1930 views | chicoazul |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:41 - Apr 6 by LeoMuff |
I agree clearly could be decent and for the money we would get worth keeping unless he is on silly wages. I would really like us to keep Downes but he surely the only one worth any serious cash. |
We are a mid table division three team. None of our players are worth anything. | |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:48 - Apr 6 with 1923 views | footers |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:46 - Apr 6 by chicoazul |
We are a mid table division three team. None of our players are worth anything. |
Aside from our unwaivering love and support, of course.
Or maybe not. |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:56 - Apr 6 with 1914 views | Steve_M |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:37 - Apr 6 by SomethingBlue |
He's held it all together without a regular, reliable partner and without the sort of stabilising, more physical presence who'd give him a platform to play. Has had to develop a lot of the messier aspects of his game as a result. I think he's done well and that in a well-balanced team we would see much more from him. One of the very few who needs to stay. |
Quite, if people think watching McGoldrick get promoted as we got relegated was galling the upside for Dozzell in the right structure is far, far greater. There's a similar case for Bishop based on his early-season form but the ceiling is far lower.
Views on Dozzell are very reductionist and devoid of any of that context, considering how little he had played before the season too he's a rare positive. |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:57 - Apr 6 with 1907 views | BiGDonnie |
I'd keep him and look to see what he can do with more competent team mates. |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 10:05 - Apr 6 with 1899 views | Scuzzer |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 09:46 - Apr 6 by chicoazul |
We are a mid table division three team. None of our players are worth anything. |
Didnt affect Deli Ali's progress . |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 10:10 - Apr 6 with 1894 views | MrTown |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 08:21 - Apr 6 by Herbivore |
Quite. It requires some pretty impressive mental gymnastics to believe both that (a) Dozzell isn't good enough for us as a League 1 side, and (b) he's someone we can cash in on for a sizeable fee. Madness. |
As a genuine question, what does he actually do? What does he bring to the side? | |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 10:12 - Apr 6 with 1892 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 07:11 - Apr 6 by chrismakin |
You'd be looking at at least £2.5 Mill with additional appearance fee's etc on top easily.
Football's a mugs game when it comes to selling, IF he's still hot property, they will buy him, if he's not, then he's no longer good enough for a starting place. |
My son's friend has a 07 reg Peugeot 207 which she is thinking of selling. If you are interested in buying I would be happy to be a go-between. Could probably get it for you for about £15,000. |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 10:16 - Apr 6 with 1887 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
This is all well and good.
But what has Andre done this year that would make another team want him?
Any manager worth his salt that might be interested is going to want to see him in a rebuilt Ipswich team.
At the moment he would command a fee, and on this season he would be a bit of a punt where a fee is involved. |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 10:19 - Apr 6 with 1878 views | Kropotkin123 |
I find myself conflicted on AD. I feel he is just as likely to fall into obscurity as he is to join a club and make it to the top tier.
If someone was to offer 2.5m (I feel this is never going to happen) then I would rather risk it on PC bringing in new players than keeping him. But that is exactly why no one will offer that, as most will be thinking they can better spend 2.5m. [Post edited 6 Apr 2021 10:20]
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 10:21 - Apr 6 with 1866 views | chicoazul |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 10:05 - Apr 6 by Scuzzer |
Didnt affect Deli Ali's progress . |
None of our young players are anything like as good as Dele was at this stage. | |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 10:27 - Apr 6 with 1861 views | LancsBlue |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 07:20 - Apr 6 by saffers12 |
Thought Rathbone showed AD everything he could be but 100% what he is not |
Interesting how people will judge a player on one game. The Rochdale commentators were saying how much better he looked (was allowed to look?) against Town following a very poor performance in their previous game. |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 10:31 - Apr 6 with 1855 views | Mullet |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 10:27 - Apr 6 by LancsBlue |
Interesting how people will judge a player on one game. The Rochdale commentators were saying how much better he looked (was allowed to look?) against Town following a very poor performance in their previous game. |
He also had a serious injury akin to AD either at or before he joined Bolton. One I’d suggested worth looking at a season or so ago, but as you say hasn’t really improved consistency has he? |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 10:39 - Apr 6 with 1850 views | noggin |
As it stands, who will want to pay money for him? If he can't make an impact in League 1, I can't see other clubs queuing up to put money on the table. Not every young player with potential will make it and Andre looks to be one of them. He needs to get more involved in games and stop thinking his job is done when he's made a short pass. |  |
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| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 11:28 - Apr 6 with 1818 views | Herbivore |
| We MUST sell Andre in the summer on 10:10 - Apr 6 by MrTown |
As a genuine question, what does he actually do? What does he bring to the side? |
He shows for the ball and he's a good passer of the ball. The defensive side of his game has improved and he makes a lot of interceptions (the stats back this up). He's gone off the boil a bit but that's understandable given he's played virtually every game and this is his first season as a regular starter. He could do with a bit of a rest but our other midfielders either aren't fit or aren't good enough. | |
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