| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? 17:45 - Jan 17 with 8307 views | SitfcB |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 18:56 - Jan 17 with 1744 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 18:25 - Jan 17 by factual_blue |
The other lesson for buffoon boris here is never to annoy a sociopath. |
Cummings the King maker, giveth with one hand (Brexit) and taketh away with the other (Partygate) |  |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:22 - Jan 17 with 1688 views | jas0999 |
I don’t believe a word this guy says. Nor Johnson for that matter. |  | | |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:26 - Jan 17 with 1677 views | Churchman |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:22 - Jan 17 by jas0999 |
I don’t believe a word this guy says. Nor Johnson for that matter. |
Totally agree. One bit of dirt dishing the dirt on another piece of dirt. |  | | |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:34 - Jan 17 with 1649 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 17:59 - Jan 17 by chicoazul |
I don’t mean this as a burn to you; but nobody really cares. |
The swing in voting intentions, wall to wall media coverage (except the Sun for obvious reasons) and amount of times you can overheat people talking about it suggests otherwise. |  |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:37 - Jan 17 with 1640 views | NthQldITFC |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 18:04 - Jan 17 by ZXBlue |
If true, it ought to be the end instantly. But too many people in this nation don't consider integrity to be an essential value anymore.
Unfortunately, Cummings cannot be trusted at all on this subject (or any) so in the absence of something more concrete, its a non story. |
For me, there's an argument that integrity is more important than policy. A politician with bad policies brings himself and maybe his party down, but a lying, cheating scumbag ratchets down politics to a new low level, and it's hard to see both sides coming together to drag the show back up even to the levels of decency and honesty we had in the nineties. |  |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:42 - Jan 17 with 1608 views | Ryorry |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:37 - Jan 17 by NthQldITFC |
For me, there's an argument that integrity is more important than policy. A politician with bad policies brings himself and maybe his party down, but a lying, cheating scumbag ratchets down politics to a new low level, and it's hard to see both sides coming together to drag the show back up even to the levels of decency and honesty we had in the nineties. |
Agree. If there's integrity, there's at least a chance decent policies might follow.
If there's no integrity, everything else is likely to be geared to what's best for the policy-makers, their mates & their families - nature of the beast & all that. |  |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:42 - Jan 17 with 1611 views | factual_blue |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 18:56 - Jan 17 by Pinewoodblue |
Cummings the King maker, giveth with one hand (Brexit) and taketh away with the other (Partygate) |
You'd need to be a common law constable to think brexit is any sort of a gift. |  |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:45 - Jan 17 with 1597 views | noggin |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:22 - Jan 17 by jas0999 |
I don’t believe a word this guy says. Nor Johnson for that matter. |
So let me get this straight.... You don't believe that Johnson knew about the party and you don't believe he didn't know about it?  |  |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:49 - Jan 17 with 1582 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 17:59 - Jan 17 by chicoazul |
I don’t mean this as a burn to you; but nobody really cares. |
I care because this is all giving me a serious glimmer of hope that we might not have a Conservative 'government' for much longer. |  |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:55 - Jan 17 with 1550 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:49 - Jan 17 by ThisIsMyUsername |
I care because this is all giving me a serious glimmer of hope that we might not have a Conservative 'government' for much longer. |
We will have a Conservative government for the same period of time with or without Johnson. With an 80 seat majority the government would win any vote of confidence and they don't have to hold a General Election until December 2024.
There is more chance of the Tories winning that election if Johnson is no longer Prime Minister. |  |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:02 - Jan 17 with 1537 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:55 - Jan 17 by GlasgowBlue |
We will have a Conservative government for the same period of time with or without Johnson. With an 80 seat majority the government would win any vote of confidence and they don't have to hold a General Election until December 2024.
There is more chance of the Tories winning that election if Johnson is no longer Prime Minister. |
I guess they’ve put on hold any thoughts of a snap election this spring! I think I remember there being rumours back in the autumn that they were thinking of it (unless I’m going mad, which is certainly a possibility). | |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:04 - Jan 17 with 1528 views | ThisIsMyUsername |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:55 - Jan 17 by GlasgowBlue |
We will have a Conservative government for the same period of time with or without Johnson. With an 80 seat majority the government would win any vote of confidence and they don't have to hold a General Election until December 2024.
There is more chance of the Tories winning that election if Johnson is no longer Prime Minister. |
I know there won't be another GE until 2024 as you say, but fingers crossed enough of the public still realise they are a bunch of scum in a couple of years' time and they lose. Johnson getting replaced in the shorter-term will be a nice day in itself. [Post edited 17 Jan 2022 20:05]
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:11 - Jan 17 with 1508 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 18:35 - Jan 17 by GlasgowBlue |
Very much so. At the moment it's all about Boris. And Labour have fallen intot he trap of making it all about Boris.
Take him out, and just like when Major replaced Thatcher, it's just like getting a new government. The people get the sacrifice they wanted, the Labour lead is reduced. |
Spot on.
It need to be made abundantly clear this is the Government and they have consistently enabled and supported all of this. It is not Boris. It is the Conservative Party. |  |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:15 - Jan 17 with 1495 views | BlueBadger |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:11 - Jan 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Spot on.
It need to be made abundantly clear this is the Government and they have consistently enabled and supported all of this. It is not Boris. It is the Conservative Party. |
Interesting to note that Tom Hunt finally broke his silence on Boris over the weekend only to rush out another propaganda piece about ruining the BBC as soon as he could. |  |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:16 - Jan 17 with 1489 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:42 - Jan 17 by factual_blue |
You'd need to be a common law constable to think brexit is any sort of a gift. |
It was a gift to the Conservative Party. It enabled them to wipe the floor with the Brexit Party and it allowed them to win a landslide off the back of the simple slogan "Get Brexit done!"
Now all they need to do is blame the EU and Covid for the mess that it is at the next election. Meanwhile 3 other parties will split any vote that cares about the truth. | |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:22 - Jan 17 with 1467 views | Ftnfwest |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 19:45 - Jan 17 by noggin |
So let me get this straight.... You don't believe that Johnson knew about the party and you don't believe he didn't know about it? |
I don’t believe any of that |  | | |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:34 - Jan 17 with 1433 views | chicoazul |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:04 - Jan 17 by ThisIsMyUsername |
I know there won't be another GE until 2024 as you say, but fingers crossed enough of the public still realise they are a bunch of scum in a couple of years' time and they lose. Johnson getting replaced in the shorter-term will be a nice day in itself. [Post edited 17 Jan 2022 20:05]
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Pretty sure you’ll be laughing on the other side of your face when you see who replaces him. |  |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:47 - Jan 17 with 1392 views | longtimefan |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 18:21 - Jan 17 by HARRY10 |
Is Cummings believed, I think you'll find the answer is a resounding, YES
He has everything to lose by making a false accusation, as whatever he says afterwards won't be believed.....were he to lie.
So it is like I previously stated. More revelations being leaked out by the day - to ensure the bloated ones lies stay in the news.
And not being the brightest he would have otherwise known that accepting the first charge, and humbly apologising might get him off. Just as had he not tried to fiddle to rules to let Paterson off.
"‘Oh what a tangled web we weave
When first we practice to deceive"
the years of constant lying are now hitting home |
“He has everything to lose by making a false accusation, as whatever he says afterwards won't be believed.....were he to lie. “
You must be the one person in the country that believes the Barnard Castle trip was a test of his eyesight then. | | | |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:52 - Jan 17 with 1369 views | Ryorry |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:16 - Jan 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
It was a gift to the Conservative Party. It enabled them to wipe the floor with the Brexit Party and it allowed them to win a landslide off the back of the simple slogan "Get Brexit done!"
Now all they need to do is blame the EU and Covid for the mess that it is at the next election. Meanwhile 3 other parties will split any vote that cares about the truth. |
The only reason I can think of for you not yet (so far) getting any uppies for this is that it's all so horribly, horribly true that we'd rather shut it out out :( | |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 21:52 - Jan 17 with 1289 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:15 - Jan 17 by BlueBadger |
Interesting to note that Tom Hunt finally broke his silence on Boris over the weekend only to rush out another propaganda piece about ruining the BBC as soon as he could. |
Looks like Adam Wagner has found the line where Johnson lied
I’m sure Starmer will pick this up on Wednesday |  | | |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 21:58 - Jan 17 with 1273 views | StokieBlue |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:34 - Jan 17 by chicoazul |
Pretty sure you’ll be laughing on the other side of your face when you see who replaces him. |
This isn't the point though.
He's broken all his own rules and has to go, it's a separate issue to the rubbish that comes afterwards.
You're basically saying anyone can get away with anything if the eventual replacement is seen as worse which is clearly nonsense.
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 23:50 - Jan 17 with 1176 views | Chrisd |
And Cummings doesn’t lie or massage the truth? Pot, kettle and black here Dominic, my old son. | |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 00:13 - Jan 18 with 1161 views | factual_blue |
| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 20:16 - Jan 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
It was a gift to the Conservative Party. It enabled them to wipe the floor with the Brexit Party and it allowed them to win a landslide off the back of the simple slogan "Get Brexit done!"
Now all they need to do is blame the EU and Covid for the mess that it is at the next election. Meanwhile 3 other parties will split any vote that cares about the truth. |
Greater love hath no man, that he lays down his country for his party. | |
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| Cummings going in with the knockout blow?? on 00:15 - Jan 18 with 1159 views | XYZ |
Cummings isn't a credible witness unless he's going to produce verifiable written evidence.
The knockout blow is already out there.
It's just a matter of how bad Johnson's ego makes it for the country, the tory party and himself personally.
Very bad is my guess.
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