| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 08:37 - Mar 21 with 1409 views | berkstractorboy |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 06:58 - Mar 21 by Samuelowen88 |
Hardly taking the mick, what happens is Davis gets a knock in training? Leigh would then be a starter.
Its been mentioned many many times, McKenna wants an attacking bench, with 1 all round defender on the bench. Leigh unfortunately doesnt fit that mold. But he would be straight into the starting 11 if Davis was injured. |
Exactly this, Davis could have picked up an injury at some point and why possibly would we want to go into such a crucial game without 2 key in form players, Baffling. Barnsley fans are so pi$$ed off as they know we would be without the Welsh duo and a better chance to beat us.
Surely with the new game we are straight off the back of a tricky away time at Posh so surely thats not a bad time either to play us. |  | |  |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 08:43 - Mar 21 with 1364 views | DJR |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 08:03 - Mar 21 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Tempted to make my first report of abuse!! |
Yep, Phil is definitely a legend in his own lunchtime, as Private Eye used to say of the fictional journalist Lunchtime O'Booze. [Post edited 21 Mar 2023 8:46]
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 08:46 - Mar 21 with 1338 views | GeoffSentence |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 21:10 - Mar 20 by NthQldITFC |
I can't be arsed to read their thread on the subject, but I wouldn't be getting worked up if two or three of their players were or were not playing because of call-ups / call-offs.
If they're getting worked up it probably indicates how scared they are of us more than anything. As for me, I think we'll beat them whoever plays and whenever we play them. We have jolly well caught fire in the last few games, and are running very hot for League One.
By the by, I really like Barnsley too; their fans were graciousness personified before and after the play off final in 2000. Super bunch. I can't decide whether I want them or Plymouth to win the play offs. |
Definitely Barnsley for me. Whilst Plymouth seem generally OK as a club my only experience of their fans is the weird stalkers they keep sending over to TWTD. Can't be doing with that. |  |
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 08:48 - Mar 21 with 1337 views | CityBlue |
I think if Jamaica have suddenly changed their mind then the blame lies with them and the EFL for accepting a request to postpone. Kind help but think we should have played as we are also in form. We have ample cover through Jackson, Harness, Aluko etc |  |
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| yes but us potentialy dropping points at Derby massively benefits Barnsley (n/t) on 08:48 - Mar 21 with 1334 views | Dyland |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 07:10 - Mar 21 by BlueStreak |
We aren’t playing them after an international break though? That’s Derby. |
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:01 - Mar 21 with 1287 views | Radlett_blue |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 08:37 - Mar 21 by Churchman |
I am struggling to understand what using Leigh as a number three has to do with it.
Surely it doesn’t matter if he’s a key component or there to cut the half time oranges if he’s part of the squad, he’s part of the squad. Thems the rules aren’t they? It’s not for the FA, Barnsley or anyone else to weight the importance of a player to a squad. If it’s three, it’s three.
This really isn’t ITFCs problem and I’m struggling to see how we are taking the mick. Please explain.
If we went down a road of must have played in the first team as a starter the previous 4 weeks or some other nonsense it’d be even more chaotic than it is. The solution is obvious, not that the international blazers across the world will ever come up with something sensible. They never have. |
But also not hard to see why Barnsley smell a rat. We obviously wouldn't want to play them without 2 key players, we call the game off & suddenly we don't have 3 players in international squads.
Yes, I do understand that apparently Town have the necessary documentation from the Jamaican FA. |  |
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:11 - Mar 21 with 1268 views | pointofblue |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 08:29 - Mar 21 by itfcjoe |
Leigh is a bona fide first teamer, who would be straight in the team if anything happened to Davis and is only not getting in squad because McKenna elects to have 1 defender on the bench and Clarke/JD are more versatile.
It's not like the days of Sean Friars (who was only here so Matt Holland didn't miss games), or even a year or two back with Adam Przybek, Armado Dobra or Anthony Georgiou. Leigh is often 19th man as well. |
Agreed, nowhere near as bad as the early naughties where we used Karic and Friars to top up the quota when they tended not to be even first reserves, unlike Leigh who clearly is. Could we have covered his absence if something happened to Davis? Presumably Donacien in and Clarke to left back which would hardly be ideal.
In a way I wish it was Morsy and then we’d have three key components away but, in another, at least there’s less risk of him getting injured in training plus he gets a proper break.
I never thought Town did anything wrong in this scenario when it comes to the rules and regulations. We followed them, the EFL accepted it and then, for some reason, Jamaica decided to pick someone else without seemingly much rhyme or reason. FIFA need to review their processes urgently.
But, as a Town fan, would I be happy if an opponent used someone who hadn’t been in a league match day squad for over a month and hadn’t started since the turn of the year to call off a game because two other important players were missing? It would rankle. Though, as I say, not as much as it did during the Karic and Friars era. | |
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:13 - Mar 21 with 1251 views | Stewart27 |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 20:17 - Mar 20 by Vegtablue |
Not the worst thread I've read by other fans concerning us and they have a point about the process. Where it gets odd for me is the calling for 3 points and suggestions they've been robbed lol, who knows what the outcome would have been had we played on Saturday! They're two very important players but they're not our most important. Jackson has been chosen in similar matches instead of Burns before and then it would be a small downgrade on paper+form for the Broadhead replacement. Obviously if the EFL hadn't agreed to rearrange then we would have played it! And who knows which team circumstances will favour come our new date of April 25th |
Jackson for Burns is a major downgrade.
Harness for Broadhead is a major downgrade.
Let’s admit it. We’re over the moon for the postponement in terms of our personnel. | | | |
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:29 - Mar 21 with 1192 views | Churchman |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:11 - Mar 21 by pointofblue |
Agreed, nowhere near as bad as the early naughties where we used Karic and Friars to top up the quota when they tended not to be even first reserves, unlike Leigh who clearly is. Could we have covered his absence if something happened to Davis? Presumably Donacien in and Clarke to left back which would hardly be ideal.
In a way I wish it was Morsy and then we’d have three key components away but, in another, at least there’s less risk of him getting injured in training plus he gets a proper break.
I never thought Town did anything wrong in this scenario when it comes to the rules and regulations. We followed them, the EFL accepted it and then, for some reason, Jamaica decided to pick someone else without seemingly much rhyme or reason. FIFA need to review their processes urgently.
But, as a Town fan, would I be happy if an opponent used someone who hadn’t been in a league match day squad for over a month and hadn’t started since the turn of the year to call off a game because two other important players were missing? It would rankle. Though, as I say, not as much as it did during the Karic and Friars era. |
You are pushing the conspiracy theory / ITFC complicit angle too hard in my view. If the boot was other foot I’d not be interested in working out when a player was last in their first team or their value to it. Never have never would, because it’d be none of my business. If the other club has the right to postpone a fixture under the rules and do, again it’s none of my business, look forward to when it’s played.
From the other perspective, we are looking after our business just as Barnsley are looking after theirs. Do they want to play us with two important players missing? Of course. Do we want to postpone it? Obviously, but I think the argument is less clear cut for us than them. With our squad, I’d fancy our chances with four or five players missing at the moment, confidence and dominance being as high as it is.
The pressure is surely on the authorities to stop messing about and amend the rules. I’d just postpone all professional fixtures on international days and give clubs the chance to play the games if they agree. Keep it simple. |  | | |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:33 - Mar 21 with 1183 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:11 - Mar 21 by pointofblue |
Agreed, nowhere near as bad as the early naughties where we used Karic and Friars to top up the quota when they tended not to be even first reserves, unlike Leigh who clearly is. Could we have covered his absence if something happened to Davis? Presumably Donacien in and Clarke to left back which would hardly be ideal.
In a way I wish it was Morsy and then we’d have three key components away but, in another, at least there’s less risk of him getting injured in training plus he gets a proper break.
I never thought Town did anything wrong in this scenario when it comes to the rules and regulations. We followed them, the EFL accepted it and then, for some reason, Jamaica decided to pick someone else without seemingly much rhyme or reason. FIFA need to review their processes urgently.
But, as a Town fan, would I be happy if an opponent used someone who hadn’t been in a league match day squad for over a month and hadn’t started since the turn of the year to call off a game because two other important players were missing? It would rankle. Though, as I say, not as much as it did during the Karic and Friars era. |
It seems a bit silly that L1/L2 don't play by the same calendar as the Championship and the Premier League to be honest, i.e all domestic games off on an international weekend. When clubs are paying the wages of these players and financially so much relies on success, they shouldn't be left without a player for a league fixture. | | | |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:39 - Mar 21 with 1165 views | PhilTWTD |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 08:43 - Mar 21 by DJR |
Yep, Phil is definitely a legend in his own lunchtime, as Private Eye used to say of the fictional journalist Lunchtime O'Booze. [Post edited 21 Mar 2023 8:46]
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I'm Lunchtime O'Temperance-Beverage these days. |  | | |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:46 - Mar 21 with 1136 views | bournemouthblue |
'You are right , it will cost our club thousands , no way will Ipswich fans travel in numbers for the mid week game & they will of course be entitled to refund , well done Ipswich , you have shafted the league & shafted our club '.
I would expect us to fill their away end, Saturday or Tuesday, especially for a game this big? |  |
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:53 - Mar 21 with 1091 views | berkstractorboy |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:46 - Mar 21 by bournemouthblue |
'You are right , it will cost our club thousands , no way will Ipswich fans travel in numbers for the mid week game & they will of course be entitled to refund , well done Ipswich , you have shafted the league & shafted our club '.
I would expect us to fill their away end, Saturday or Tuesday, especially for a game this big? |
I think we will now as we know how much needle there will be and we need to back our boys.
This whole moral backbone Barnsley fans seem to have grown, where were they earlier in the season and didn't ask the FA to award us 3 points when we legitimately went 3-1 up and very likely to go onto win. Happy to take the rub of the green when it suits them!! | | | |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 10:05 - Mar 21 with 1056 views | pointofblue |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:29 - Mar 21 by Churchman |
You are pushing the conspiracy theory / ITFC complicit angle too hard in my view. If the boot was other foot I’d not be interested in working out when a player was last in their first team or their value to it. Never have never would, because it’d be none of my business. If the other club has the right to postpone a fixture under the rules and do, again it’s none of my business, look forward to when it’s played.
From the other perspective, we are looking after our business just as Barnsley are looking after theirs. Do they want to play us with two important players missing? Of course. Do we want to postpone it? Obviously, but I think the argument is less clear cut for us than them. With our squad, I’d fancy our chances with four or five players missing at the moment, confidence and dominance being as high as it is.
The pressure is surely on the authorities to stop messing about and amend the rules. I’d just postpone all professional fixtures on international days and give clubs the chance to play the games if they agree. Keep it simple. |
No conspiracy angle or ITFC being complicit intended at all in my posts. We thought Leigh was going to be called out, we had the paperwork to prove it, we forwarded it to the EFL who agreed the postponement. All above board and hardly our fault of Jamaica then decided not to include Leigh in the squad. | |
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 10:12 - Mar 21 with 1027 views | lizzibee |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:46 - Mar 21 by bournemouthblue |
'You are right , it will cost our club thousands , no way will Ipswich fans travel in numbers for the mid week game & they will of course be entitled to refund , well done Ipswich , you have shafted the league & shafted our club '.
I would expect us to fill their away end, Saturday or Tuesday, especially for a game this big? |
If not a full sell it will be close to selling out. We'll travel in numbers to this game, I'm sure | | | |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 10:18 - Mar 21 with 1006 views | DJR |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:39 - Mar 21 by PhilTWTD |
I'm Lunchtime O'Temperance-Beverage these days. |
Yes, things have certainly changed since the days in the early 80s when I worked just off Fleet Street and frequented pubs like the Cheshire Cheese.
From what I can recall, some of the pubs were able to open at strange hours to reflect the late hours of the printers. And our office was just across the road from where the Sun was printed before printing moved to Wapping.
These days, according to a friend of mine who has just retired from a national newspaper, virtual working as a consequence of Covid has further put paid to what remains of the drinking culture. [Post edited 21 Mar 2023 10:58]
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 10:20 - Mar 21 with 990 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 09:11 - Mar 21 by pointofblue |
Agreed, nowhere near as bad as the early naughties where we used Karic and Friars to top up the quota when they tended not to be even first reserves, unlike Leigh who clearly is. Could we have covered his absence if something happened to Davis? Presumably Donacien in and Clarke to left back which would hardly be ideal.
In a way I wish it was Morsy and then we’d have three key components away but, in another, at least there’s less risk of him getting injured in training plus he gets a proper break.
I never thought Town did anything wrong in this scenario when it comes to the rules and regulations. We followed them, the EFL accepted it and then, for some reason, Jamaica decided to pick someone else without seemingly much rhyme or reason. FIFA need to review their processes urgently.
But, as a Town fan, would I be happy if an opponent used someone who hadn’t been in a league match day squad for over a month and hadn’t started since the turn of the year to call off a game because two other important players were missing? It would rankle. Though, as I say, not as much as it did during the Karic and Friars era. |
"But, as a Town fan, would I be happy if an opponent used someone who hadn’t been in a league match day squad for over a month"
I wouldn't even notice. |  |
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 10:21 - Mar 21 with 994 views | clive_baker |
Feels like much adu about nothing to me. We seemingly received letters of intent to call up 3 of our players this weekend, decided we would prefer to rearrange the game and submitted the supporting documentation to the FA. Game gets re-arranged and subsequently Jamaica have changed their mind and not called up Leigh. Not really sure how or why it reflects on the club (assuming we had the normal supporting documentation and followed protocol). |  |
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 10:31 - Mar 21 with 953 views | Herbivore |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 08:48 - Mar 21 by CityBlue |
I think if Jamaica have suddenly changed their mind then the blame lies with them and the EFL for accepting a request to postpone. Kind help but think we should have played as we are also in form. We have ample cover through Jackson, Harness, Aluko etc |
Burns and Broadhead have been integral to our good form recently. We have cover but the cover is a significant downgrade on those two so can't see the logic behind thinking we should have gone ahead with the game rather than requesting a postponement. Part of the reason we are in form is because of the contributions of Burns and Broadhead. |  |
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 10:34 - Mar 21 with 929 views | GeoffSentence |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 10:18 - Mar 21 by DJR |
Yes, things have certainly changed since the days in the early 80s when I worked just off Fleet Street and frequented pubs like the Cheshire Cheese.
From what I can recall, some of the pubs were able to open at strange hours to reflect the late hours of the printers. And our office was just across the road from where the Sun was printed before printing moved to Wapping.
These days, according to a friend of mine who has just retired from a national newspaper, virtual working as a consequence of Covid has further put paid to what remains of the drinking culture. [Post edited 21 Mar 2023 10:58]
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As with all things there are swings and roundabouts. My local village pub is doing quite nicely, partly down to local people WFH in the village being able to pop in for a pint and a spot of lunch. | |
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 10:36 - Mar 21 with 910 views | DanTheMan |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 10:31 - Mar 21 by Herbivore |
Burns and Broadhead have been integral to our good form recently. We have cover but the cover is a significant downgrade on those two so can't see the logic behind thinking we should have gone ahead with the game rather than requesting a postponement. Part of the reason we are in form is because of the contributions of Burns and Broadhead. |
Jackson isn't so bad a replacement for Burns, a downgrade for sure but he showed the other week he is more than capable.
Harness unfortunately looks a million miles away from Broadhead right now. I feel a bit sorry for him, nothing seems to come off for him and it certainly doesn't seem to be for lack of effort. |  |
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| yes but us potentialy dropping points at Derby massively benefits Barnsley (n/t) on 10:55 - Mar 21 with 845 views | BlueStreak |
| yes but us potentialy dropping points at Derby massively benefits Barnsley (n/t) on 08:48 - Mar 21 by Dyland |
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There you go then. On that basis you'd expect Barnsley to want the game off as our record is so poor after international breaks? |  | | |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 10:55 - Mar 21 with 846 views | Vaughan8 |
This has been massively blown out of proportion. If it was the other way round, I don't think i'd think too much of it.
Looks like there has been a c0ck up somewhere but I can't for one second think we've done it deliberately cos we're scared to play them.
Clearly they're scared of playong us with our strongest team the amount they are going on about it. | | | |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 11:06 - Mar 21 with 800 views | bournemouthblue |
| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 10:55 - Mar 21 by Vaughan8 |
This has been massively blown out of proportion. If it was the other way round, I don't think i'd think too much of it.
Looks like there has been a c0ck up somewhere but I can't for one second think we've done it deliberately cos we're scared to play them.
Clearly they're scared of playong us with our strongest team the amount they are going on about it. |
As with all fanbases, there are sensible ones and the not so sensible ones
We are certainly due some luck against them, given the scandalous decision earlier in the season in that game, it might still prove pivotal at the end of the season too | |
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| Barnsley fans misrepresenting the Leigh facts and the content of this board on 11:18 - Mar 21 with 775 views | SamWhiteUK |
The alternative to what they're suggesting is that the possible postponement wait until today. Would they really have rather that? Imagine Leigh is in the squad and the game gets postponed and moved 4 days before it's due to take place. That'd be bloody stupid! |  | | |
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