| Multi-club ownership 17:04 - May 31 with 4113 views | JakeITFC |
Reading Brett Johnson's comments in the article just posted by Phil, it looks like we may dip our toe into this should we achieve some stability in the Prem.
There are some obvious benefits around player development, FFP/PSR loopholes and the like, but I can't be the only one who is fundamentally opposed to something like this? Don't want it to be a point of negativity but I guess we are kind of exposed to the risks of these types of non-romantic football plays given our ownership structure now (especially post VC investment). |  | | |  |
| Multi-club ownership on 17:05 - May 31 with 3674 views | MK1 |
As long as it's Real Madrid I have no problem with it. |  |
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| Multi-club ownership on 17:07 - May 31 with 3636 views | Bobbychase |
I've always been sceptical.
But if we get paired with a club like Fiorentina and I can spend a weekend a year in Florence supporting our "brother" club and eating some decent food then I could be persuaded. |  |
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| Multi-club ownership on 17:08 - May 31 with 3621 views | FrimleyBlue |
Depends what you want for the club.
If the end game is being one of the big clubs then yes it's doable, helpful and a must
There's no wrong wish for the club but imo the bigger you want it to be the more acceptable of certain things you'll need to become. |  |
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| Multi-club ownership on 17:09 - May 31 with 3615 views | wkj |
It hasn't really worked too well for Watford, I would argue that it actually damaged their momentum in a huge way. |  |
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| Multi-club ownership on 17:10 - May 31 with 3613 views | LankHenners |
Yeah I don't like it on principle either - clubs should have their own identities and shouldn't exist to be direct feeders to another club (outside of mutually beneficial things like us loaning kids to Bury Town or whoever which is different). |  |
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| Multi-club ownership on 17:11 - May 31 with 3596 views | Daninthecampo |
As long as we're top of the pyramid, all good for us, its worked well for the City group, just look at Girona this year! [Post edited 31 May 2024 17:11]
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| Multi-club ownership on 17:20 - May 31 with 3510 views | Pinewoodblue |
Why mainland Europe?
Let’s do it different and welcome an Irish &/or Scottish club into the family. |  |
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| Multi-club ownership on 17:26 - May 31 with 3457 views | Mullet |
I've felt for a long time having a feeder club formally/informally would benefit us, as youth development is such a minefield. Seems a bit of a can't beat em scenario.
Fundamentally owning clubs in the Red Bull/franchise model is terrible though. It's also one of those things that allows a good bit of cheating, and when it goes well it'll be popular.
Perhaps if it's American clubs it gives our youngsters who don't make it a chance at a career etc it could be a good thing. |  |
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| Multi-club ownership on 17:34 - May 31 with 3401 views | BarcaBlue |
| Multi-club ownership on 17:11 - May 31 by Daninthecampo |
As long as we're top of the pyramid, all good for us, its worked well for the City group, just look at Girona this year! [Post edited 31 May 2024 17:11]
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I think I read that the shareholding group that has a stake in City and Girona are being forced to sell their Girona involvement as they will both be playing in the Champions League.
On a related note, would love to see Michel in the Premier. Done a wonderful job at Girona, very humble and even learned Catalan. |  | | |
| Multi-club ownership on 17:35 - May 31 with 3399 views | Mercian |
| Multi-club ownership on 17:05 - May 31 by MK1 |
As long as it's Real Madrid I have no problem with it. |
Yeah. And a loan for Endrick who is joining them in the summer. He scored against England in March. I have heard he has it it takes to reach the very top! The very top! |  | | |
| Multi-club ownership on 18:30 - May 31 with 3205 views | SmithersJones |
| Multi-club ownership on 17:05 - May 31 by MK1 |
As long as it's Real Madrid I have no problem with it. |
Nah, definitely not Real Madrid. It’ll cause all sorts of compliance issues when we’ve both qualified for the Champions League. | | | |
| Multi-club ownership on 18:36 - May 31 with 3145 views | BloomBlue |
Maybe he's preparing us for a sale to Red Bull and we'll become part of their stable with Leeds. RB Ipswich & RB Leeds |  | | |
| Multi-club ownership on 18:37 - May 31 with 3138 views | Daninthecampo |
| Multi-club ownership on 17:34 - May 31 by BarcaBlue |
I think I read that the shareholding group that has a stake in City and Girona are being forced to sell their Girona involvement as they will both be playing in the Champions League.
On a related note, would love to see Michel in the Premier. Done a wonderful job at Girona, very humble and even learned Catalan. |
Yes I think they outperformed themselves this year! | | | |
| Multi-club ownership on 19:38 - May 31 with 2875 views | Stewart27 |
| Multi-club ownership on 17:20 - May 31 by Pinewoodblue |
Why mainland Europe?
Let’s do it different and welcome an Irish &/or Scottish club into the family. |
Because they’re crap. | | | |
| Multi-club ownership on 19:42 - May 31 with 2850 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Wasn't there a sense of this from the outset with the investors' involvement with Phoenix Rising? Hasn't really materialised in any noticeable way, though. If it is simply about the owners rolling out a successful model that develops the whole community and not simply the club, I have no issue with it personally. I do feel the end game is to sell the club and seeing who ends up buying is the bigger issue for me. |  |
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| Multi-club ownership on 19:59 - May 31 with 2792 views | portmanking |
I'm okay with it if it's genuine being used as a 'European passport' thing. I.e. Giving overseas recruits a taste of European-style football while making it easier from a visa/work permit perspective. But I don't for one second want us to become a Watford-Udinese where players are just carted from one to the next like plates of meat. | | | |
| Multi-club ownership on 20:08 - May 31 with 2739 views | bournemouthblue |
| Multi-club ownership on 17:20 - May 31 by Pinewoodblue |
Why mainland Europe?
Let’s do it different and welcome an Irish &/or Scottish club into the family. |
That would be an interesting one, I suppose in many ways, a Dutch team wouldn't be much less convenient geographically?
We have fans in Scandinavia too, should we be fostering that potentially?
Ireland is sewn up by the North West Clubs? |  |
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| Multi-club ownership on 20:13 - May 31 with 2716 views | Kieran_Knows |
I’m absolutely all for it, personally.
People don’t particularly like it, and I can understand why. But it’s not just players, plenty of coaches have moved between organisations (City Group and Red Bull Group spring to mind).
Something that could benefit us not only in players, but off the pitch as well.
Bring it on … ‘The Town Group’. |  |
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| Multi-club ownership on 06:56 - Jun 1 with 2344 views | Churchman |
| Multi-club ownership on 20:13 - May 31 by Kieran_Knows |
I’m absolutely all for it, personally.
People don’t particularly like it, and I can understand why. But it’s not just players, plenty of coaches have moved between organisations (City Group and Red Bull Group spring to mind).
Something that could benefit us not only in players, but off the pitch as well.
Bring it on … ‘The Town Group’. |
It all depends on the what, which clubs and the how, but I agree - I can see some obvious benefits in it from players, coaches’ development perspective to commercial. |  | | |
| Multi-club ownership on 08:16 - Jun 1 with 2201 views | Mark |
It depends on the detail and whether both/all clubs benefit, but I am I have reservations about it. If one club exists to serve a bigger club, that is wrong. Teams are all part of their communities and should have the chance to thrive in their own right. |  | | |
| Multi-club ownership on 08:20 - Jun 1 with 2183 views | JakeITFC |
| Multi-club ownership on 08:16 - Jun 1 by Mark |
It depends on the detail and whether both/all clubs benefit, but I am I have reservations about it. If one club exists to serve a bigger club, that is wrong. Teams are all part of their communities and should have the chance to thrive in their own right. |
I think this is it - the Ipswich of a few years ago were probably in the doldrums enough that becoming part of this sort of relationship could have been on the cards, existing ultimately just to benefit the main parent in some sort of transient football space.
I’d really prefer that we remained a plucky outside to this kind of stuff rather than just another club looking to eek out every pound note of residual value from the game, but maybe the days of that are long gone. | | | |
| Multi-club ownership on 09:44 - Jun 1 with 2076 views | Vic |
Dare I say ‘Welcome to Franchise Football’,
Actually - thinking about it, elephant seems to have been pretty quiet recently! |  |
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| Multi-club ownership on 10:00 - Jun 1 with 2019 views | blueasfook |
| Multi-club ownership on 09:44 - Jun 1 by Vic |
Dare I say ‘Welcome to Franchise Football’,
Actually - thinking about it, elephant seems to have been pretty quiet recently! |
He'll have a fit when he reads that article lol
Reading it myself, I'm not sure what he's talking about. Is he talking about a potential feeder club or a family of clubs with some common identity or brand?
I definitely don't like the second idea. |  |
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| Multi-club ownership on 10:11 - Jun 1 with 1955 views | Sharkey |
| Multi-club ownership on 20:08 - May 31 by bournemouthblue |
That would be an interesting one, I suppose in many ways, a Dutch team wouldn't be much less convenient geographically?
We have fans in Scandinavia too, should we be fostering that potentially?
Ireland is sewn up by the North West Clubs? |
There was a kind of link-up with GAIS for a while, but that seems to have tailed off. GAIS flying high in the Swedish top league these days. |  | | |
| Multi-club ownership on 10:44 - Jun 1 with 1862 views | Sharkey |
Johnson's comment about 'resuming the rivalry with Manchester City' was a bit of an unlucky guess, because of all the big clubs I'd say that's the one Town have had least 'rivalry' with. The Paul Power semi-final apart, I don't think Manchester City loom large in the club's history. | | | |
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