| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea 22:25 - Jun 25 with 21336 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
According to The Mirror |  | | |  |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:21 - Jun 26 with 1486 views | Jon_456 |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:19 - Jun 26 by Herbivore |
Jesus wept. Absolute sh!twittery. |
Surprised so many have engaged in this thread.
What is it they say? Never argue with an idiot as they’ll bring you down to their level and win on experience. | | | |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:22 - Jun 26 with 1488 views | bsw72 |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 23:01 - Jun 25 by SimonBatfordITFC |
Because we no longer hold the cards. If he wants to go then he will and for market value. We will add a sell on but in the short term we will take a loss. That’s the reality of modern football. |
OK, I'll bite.
Explain why we no longer "hold the cards", considering we are no financial pressure/obligation to sell and the player is contracted until 2029.
True, if he wants to go he will, but that is the only part of "modern" football that is in play here; player power has shifted since the reform of player contacts back in 1963 started to remove the retain and transfer system.
Nothing else you refer to makes sense . . . . |  | | |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:23 - Jun 26 with 1476 views | blueasfook |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 22:50 - Jun 25 by SitfcB |
He’s got a £35 mill release clause.
‘…thanks to a shrewd clause included in the contract‘ - Hardly shrewd is it ffs. Sell on clauses are in ever deal these days! [Post edited 25 Jun 22:50]
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"Very very well protected" |  |
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:23 - Jun 26 with 1482 views | Herbivore |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:20 - Jun 26 by SimonBatfordITFC |
Liam Delap new contract before Christmas? by RIPbobby 30 Nov 2024 13:25I wonder how hard the club are going to try to maximise his resale value. I know he has only just signed for us, but he has such a great start that it would be prudent to up his wages and also get his buy out clause much higher than it is right now. I would imagine his market value is north of 60 million already.
Just a thought.
Delap... by Jack27 15 Apr 12:50Something that I don't think has been mentioned about the Delap release clause...
Yes - Man City could exercise their supposed £40m buyback and sell him on OR we could lose him for £30m once relegated...
BUT (and this might be naive what with the ruthlessness of football)
Is there a possibility Delap could sign a new contract with us to remove the clause? I only say it because (and this could be the naive part) Ipswich signed him and helped him be the player he is. He might feel he owes it to the club to repay that by signing the contract to remove it, still with an agreement to sell to a Premier League team, but without a clause stipulating the amount.
Delap relegation release clause by Jon_456 11 Apr 20:58I’m normally quite critical of young footballers seeking moves too soon when they’re probably better of playing more games in the league below.
However in this instance I think it would be an absolute waste of talent if he were to spend next season in the championship. He’s every bit a premier league footballer and should be eyeing up an England call up next year.
Literally 3 of the top 4 results on Google. Many more. Still think “nobody said that”? |
So only one person there saying what you claimed and then in the same thread everyone else saying no chance. Top work, mate. |  |
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:28 - Jun 26 with 1447 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:23 - Jun 26 by Herbivore |
So only one person there saying what you claimed and then in the same thread everyone else saying no chance. Top work, mate. |
Thanks Herb. At least somebody is seeing some sense! | | | |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:29 - Jun 26 with 1430 views | Smoresy |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 07:35 - Jun 26 by NthQldITFC |
You can't possibly believe this, no-one is that ill-informed, so are you just on some sort of wind-up? This is a genuine question. I don't understand what you're doing. I'm assuming you are a genuine fan because not even the thickest Norwich troll would go for this. |
It's decent trolling as he's already up to 3 pages, first part of the morning will have flown by. Only negative would be that he's had to invest a lot of time himself in reaching that milestone. | | | |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:32 - Jun 26 with 1405 views | NedPlimpton |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:23 - Jun 26 by Herbivore |
So only one person there saying what you claimed and then in the same thread everyone else saying no chance. Top work, mate. |
And at least that poster is admitting to be being a bit naive!
Unlike this one who seems completely oblivious |  | | |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:33 - Jun 26 with 1377 views | Dubtractor |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:23 - Jun 26 by Herbivore |
So only one person there saying what you claimed and then in the same thread everyone else saying no chance. Top work, mate. |
The bottom post literally says that delap should leave. |  |
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:37 - Jun 26 with 1338 views | Churchman |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:29 - Jun 26 by Smoresy |
It's decent trolling as he's already up to 3 pages, first part of the morning will have flown by. Only negative would be that he's had to invest a lot of time himself in reaching that milestone. |
The only sadness is that this billy no mates has nothing better to do with his time. |  | | |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:38 - Jun 26 with 1318 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:23 - Jun 26 by Herbivore |
So only one person there saying what you claimed and then in the same thread everyone else saying no chance. Top work, mate. |
Wasting your time here Herb. Div list and move on. |  |
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:39 - Jun 26 with 1312 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:37 - Jun 26 by Churchman |
The only sadness is that this billy no mates has nothing better to do with his time. |
How dare you! I’ll have you know that I’m very busy out spotting burkas v balaclavas in York. It’s 2-1 so far today. | | | |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:48 - Jun 26 with 1260 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 23:01 - Jun 25 by SimonBatfordITFC |
Because we no longer hold the cards. If he wants to go then he will and for market value. We will add a sell on but in the short term we will take a loss. That’s the reality of modern football. |
The market value is what someone is prepared to pay, not what’s shown on Transfermkt. Given we paid £22m and he had a reasonably successful season in the PL, I’d be very surprised if we agreed to sell him for less than we paid for him. |  |
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:53 - Jun 26 with 1220 views | Damster |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:48 - Jun 26 by Swansea_Blue |
The market value is what someone is prepared to pay, not what’s shown on Transfermkt. Given we paid £22m and he had a reasonably successful season in the PL, I’d be very surprised if we agreed to sell him for less than we paid for him. |
I think what would be more realistic is his release clause is triggered. At £35m with a 25% sell on clause it does leave next to no profit on a very exciting prospect which is a little disappointing. | | | |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:01 - Jun 26 with 1164 views | Vic |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:53 - Jun 26 by Damster |
I think what would be more realistic is his release clause is triggered. At £35m with a 25% sell on clause it does leave next to no profit on a very exciting prospect which is a little disappointing. |
I stand to be corrected but my back of my fag packet maths, based on your figures suggests it would be a circa £10m profit. Not too shabby for one relegation season. |  |
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:03 - Jun 26 with 1145 views | BlueBlood90 |
I doubt it.
We're very, very, very well protected. |  |
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:06 - Jun 26 with 1121 views | mellowblue |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:53 - Jun 26 by Damster |
I think what would be more realistic is his release clause is triggered. At £35m with a 25% sell on clause it does leave next to no profit on a very exciting prospect which is a little disappointing. |
So has Ashton agreed to pay 22 million knowing he might need to sell him on for 35 million less 25% (8.75 million) to Chelsea, net profit for us £4.75 million. I doubt he would have done that. Surely it is more likely that the 25% refers to the amount of profit we would make on the sale rather than the whole transfer fee? i.e 25% of 13 million. Which is more usual. | | | |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:24 - Jun 26 with 1064 views | BlueBoots |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:06 - Jun 26 by mellowblue |
So has Ashton agreed to pay 22 million knowing he might need to sell him on for 35 million less 25% (8.75 million) to Chelsea, net profit for us £4.75 million. I doubt he would have done that. Surely it is more likely that the 25% refers to the amount of profit we would make on the sale rather than the whole transfer fee? i.e 25% of 13 million. Which is more usual. |
I don't know where people are getting £22m from anyway - the reported fee when we signed Omari was £18m + £2.5m add-ons (which may or may not have been triggered)
IF there is a £35m release clause (unconfirmed) and it is activated by another club, we're looking at approximately £15m of profit after one season, of which Chelsea will receive 25% (£3.75m) (that sell-on percentage was confirmed at the time of signing too) |  |
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:26 - Jun 26 with 1064 views | Trequartista |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 23:46 - Jun 25 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Apart from adding the bit about it being for £19M and taking the (clearly wrong) sentence about a 25% sell-on to Chelsea of any future transfer fee absolutely literally. Which is the entire content of the OP's title.
So, apart from at least 50% of what they have written, they are simply regurgitating the contents of a poorly worded newspaper article. And then, when it has been pointed out they are clearly wrong, doubling down on it. |
The Mirror article says £19m, the sell-on as a lump sum as opposed to on profit is also in The Mirror, that's what the "savvy move" is referring to.
Sure he's framing it in a sensationalist way, but in the end it's The Mirror you want to be directing the scorn at. [Post edited 26 Jun 9:26]
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:27 - Jun 26 with 1057 views | Trequartista |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 04:11 - Jun 26 by Illinoisblue |
When messengers completely and utterly misrepresent what was written then surely they should be metaphorically shot? “Stand down in the trenches, lads, the Germans aren’t advancing.” Oh. |
Don't think the article is being misrepresented, all the alleged nonsense is in the article. | |
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:33 - Jun 26 with 1035 views | BlueBoots |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:26 - Jun 26 by Trequartista |
The Mirror article says £19m, the sell-on as a lump sum as opposed to on profit is also in The Mirror, that's what the "savvy move" is referring to.
Sure he's framing it in a sensationalist way, but in the end it's The Mirror you want to be directing the scorn at. [Post edited 26 Jun 9:26]
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Well, not really...the Mirror article says "Hutchinson is now valued at just under £19m, according to Transfermarkt."
Nothing in the article says that he is going to be, or likely to be sold for that amount, which is what has been stated in the title of this thread. Which is why the OP rather than the Mirror is getting pelters, and rightly so... | |
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:35 - Jun 26 with 1013 views | Herbivore |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:33 - Jun 26 by BlueBoots |
Well, not really...the Mirror article says "Hutchinson is now valued at just under £19m, according to Transfermarkt."
Nothing in the article says that he is going to be, or likely to be sold for that amount, which is what has been stated in the title of this thread. Which is why the OP rather than the Mirror is getting pelters, and rightly so... |
The article is also almost certainly written by AI and is of very poor journalistic quality. I'm not sure why anyone would share it, let alone put any stock in it. | |
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:35 - Jun 26 with 1012 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:16 - Jun 26 by Herbivore |
Doubling down here is a really bad look. You honestly think we're going to sell Hutchinson at a loss because a website rates his market value at £19m so that's all anyone will pay? Those sites are notorious for undervaluing players versus what they actually end up being sold for and we are not compelled to just accept any offer that is made for Omari. I will happily bet you a grand that we don't sell Hutchinson at a loss. You seem very confident so I'm sure you'll take that bet. |
You might want to add "this summer", or another time limiting clause, to the wording of that bet.
Players can get injured in future seasons and offloaded.
Players can run their contracts down to less than a season and get offloaded for less than true market worth, rather than go at the end of the contract for nothing. | | | |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:40 - Jun 26 with 989 views | Trequartista |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:33 - Jun 26 by BlueBoots |
Well, not really...the Mirror article says "Hutchinson is now valued at just under £19m, according to Transfermarkt."
Nothing in the article says that he is going to be, or likely to be sold for that amount, which is what has been stated in the title of this thread. Which is why the OP rather than the Mirror is getting pelters, and rightly so... |
Yeah he's framed it in a certain way as i said, but ultimately The Mirror put £19m as the potential fee. I mean if you look at the state of clickbait nowadays that is a tiny leap in comparison
Probably just because there was a pile-on I made a comment, its not some big freedom of speech crusade I'm on here lol. I would sincerely hope he doesn't leave for less than we paid for him. | |
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:51 - Jun 26 with 948 views | J2BLUE |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:40 - Jun 26 by Trequartista |
Yeah he's framed it in a certain way as i said, but ultimately The Mirror put £19m as the potential fee. I mean if you look at the state of clickbait nowadays that is a tiny leap in comparison
Probably just because there was a pile-on I made a comment, its not some big freedom of speech crusade I'm on here lol. I would sincerely hope he doesn't leave for less than we paid for him. |
There's no pile on. People are just pointing out the facts.
Why post something that you know is completely wrong and then desperately try to defend that position? It's just weird. |  |
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| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 09:53 - Jun 26 with 939 views | only_one_sir_bobby |
| Omari off for 19m with 25% going to Chelsea on 08:07 - Jun 26 by SimonBatfordITFC |
That’s not quite right I’m afraid. If he was worth more than the clause and someone offered the clause then we’d have to accept. We are perfectly within our rights to accept a lower amount and given that he’s worth considerably less than the clause amount we are very unlikely to achieve it.
You’ll say “haha but then we won’t sell!”, but we will. Because there’s little point holding on to a player that wants to leave if you can get a reasonable fee. With a decent U21 Euros and a decent PL season in 25/26 he has an outside shot at a WC squad place, we won’t hold him back and neither should we. |
You're right in principle — a player can be sold for less than their release clause. These clauses aren't always rigid; for instance, if the clause were to be paid in installments over several years, but a club comes in with a slightly lower offer paid in full upfront, we might prefer that. So yes, it's possible a deal is struck below the £35m figure.
What’s simply not true, though, is the claim that he is worth less than he was last summer. At that point, he had barely played in the Premier League. Since then, he’s had a solid breakthrough season and is currently shining at the U21 Euros. His development has been clear and consistent.
We paid a decent fee for him last year, and I can say with confidence: he will not be sold for less than that. His value has unquestionably risen. | | | |
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