| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 22:58 - Jun 29 with 21489 views | SitfcB |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 06:14 - Jul 1 with 1371 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 20:28 - Jun 30 by Chris_ITFC |
Weird hill to die on this.
It would be one thing defending free speech / good humour if the joke was even mildly amusing. But choosing that joke over a touch of respect and class towards women?
It's just cheap, dumb sexism that, for some reason, makes some men feel better about themselves. |
10 pages of trying to justify everyday, casual sexism is certainly a very weird hill to die on. Still, it’s good to see most TWTDers are considerate people. Even I’ve stopped sharing the women’s car park joke picture, and it was once used to crack me up. Things move on and we should try and keep up, especially when it involves being nice to people. Otherwise you just come across as an arsehole. |  |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 07:12 - Jul 1 with 1271 views | Vic |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 01:49 - Jul 1 by Libero |
Say stupid sh*t, get challenged on it.
You’re ‘allowed’ any opinion you want, you’re just can’t have it free from others opinions too.
The very same powers that mean that Benters can say he thinks asylum seekers should be ‘machine gunned’ down, are the ones that enable me to tell him he’s a racist.
If people aren’t posting because they can’t handle that their opinion may be challenged, it’s very much a them problem. [Post edited 1 Jul 1:56]
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Agreed, but some people do have a tendency come across as dismissive, aggressive, which others find hard to deal with. |  |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 07:25 - Jul 1 with 1235 views | Herbivore |
Decent knock, Sitters. |  |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 07:42 - Jul 1 with 1190 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 01:58 - Jul 1 by MattinLondon |
How does anyone know that they are really winding other posters up? How someone replies is lost through the Internet. Someone could well reply and give the impression that they are angry or upset but in actual fact could well be neither. |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 08:58 - Jul 1 with 1088 views | SitfcB |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 05:24 - Jul 1 by Kropotkin123 |
Congrats on the 10-pager. |
Thank you, I think it’s my first one. Always been a dream, I’d like to thank Keno for his support on this. | |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 09:05 - Jul 1 with 1042 views | SitfcB |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 01:02 - Jul 1 by J2BLUE |
Yes, I think he enjoys winding certain posters up. |
All good fun isn’t it! | |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 09:17 - Jul 1 with 1010 views | Ryorry |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 07:12 - Jul 1 by Vic |
Agreed, but some people do have a tendency come across as dismissive, aggressive, which others find hard to deal with. |
Not always as saintly as they like to make out (and I’m not talking about responses to racism, sexism, homophobia or other objectionable views - just a different view to their own has sometimes been a cue for considerable abuse). [Post edited 1 Jul 9:20]
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 09:36 - Jul 1 with 969 views | positivity |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 01:02 - Jul 1 by J2BLUE |
Yes, I think he enjoys winding certain posters up. |
unless his aim was to wind up wavey and benty, i think his aim was off!
on a more general note, if someone puts up sexist or racist posts, would you say it's best to leave them up or challenge them?
long-term posters will know it's only a troll like fookers, darkhorse or elephant being a silly sausage, but more casual readers may think it's a general ipswich thing and we're all stuck in the dark ages. also, less discerning readers may think that the poster is being serious and it reinforces their backward views.
thoughts? | |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 09:44 - Jul 1 with 919 views | lowhouseblue |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 09:17 - Jul 1 by Ryorry |
Not always as saintly as they like to make out (and I’m not talking about responses to racism, sexism, homophobia or other objectionable views - just a different view to their own has sometimes been a cue for considerable abuse). [Post edited 1 Jul 9:20]
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there is a mindset in which no view other than their own can ever be legitimately held. it's black and white, i'm right. they then go on to claim that because it's their view it is objectively true because, obviously, only their determination of truth from lies, fact and fiction, can be legitimate. it gets very dull. |  |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 09:58 - Jul 1 with 880 views | Vic |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 09:44 - Jul 1 by lowhouseblue |
there is a mindset in which no view other than their own can ever be legitimately held. it's black and white, i'm right. they then go on to claim that because it's their view it is objectively true because, obviously, only their determination of truth from lies, fact and fiction, can be legitimate. it gets very dull. |
Another 10 pages incoming! I tend to agree with you, but I’m not sure it was a good move to defend the sort of sexism of the video in the. Sure, it made me chuckle, like I chuckle at the old Benny Hill and carry on humour, but it ain’t right for anyone to say that it’s acceptable and mainstream is it!
Generally speaking though I despair at the lack of respect people show in not just what they say but the way they say it to people they disagree with. But with the likes of Trump around I don’t see it changing any time soon. | |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 09:59 - Jul 1 with 860 views | lowhouseblue |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 09:58 - Jul 1 by Vic |
Another 10 pages incoming! I tend to agree with you, but I’m not sure it was a good move to defend the sort of sexism of the video in the. Sure, it made me chuckle, like I chuckle at the old Benny Hill and carry on humour, but it ain’t right for anyone to say that it’s acceptable and mainstream is it!
Generally speaking though I despair at the lack of respect people show in not just what they say but the way they say it to people they disagree with. But with the likes of Trump around I don’t see it changing any time soon. |
i'm not defending 'the joke'. it was inappropriate and stupid. | |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 10:06 - Jul 1 with 806 views | Benters |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 20:18 - Jun 30 by Tonytown |
Black and white minstrel show too and It Ain’t Half Hot Mum too I assume |
My mum did,I can remember her tapping her foot to the minstrels.Oh and ‘the good olde days’ filmed in a old playhouse or something.
Yes I did like the second one,as a sprog I found it very funny. [Post edited 1 Jul 10:08]
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 10:26 - Jul 1 with 746 views | Vic |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 09:59 - Jul 1 by lowhouseblue |
i'm not defending 'the joke'. it was inappropriate and stupid. |
Re ‘defending the joke’ - I know you weren’t Lowers, I was referring to those who did.
BTW do you still frequent or live near the Low House. That’s not a stalking question - it’s just that we might have bumped into each other at some time as I’m not far away from it myself. [Post edited 1 Jul 10:26]
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 10:31 - Jul 1 with 713 views | lowhouseblue |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 10:26 - Jul 1 by Vic |
Re ‘defending the joke’ - I know you weren’t Lowers, I was referring to those who did.
BTW do you still frequent or live near the Low House. That’s not a stalking question - it’s just that we might have bumped into each other at some time as I’m not far away from it myself. [Post edited 1 Jul 10:26]
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i'm not all that far away. but i went to the lowhouse a few weeks back and was bit disappointed. was essentially turned away for not having booked - which is not how a pub is supposed to work. and they had no adnams! tend to mainly frequent pubs a bit to the south - sweffling, blaxhall, sanpe, great gelmham, fram etc. | |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 10:47 - Jul 1 with 676 views | Tonytown |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 10:06 - Jul 1 by Benters |
My mum did,I can remember her tapping her foot to the minstrels.Oh and ‘the good olde days’ filmed in a old playhouse or something.
Yes I did like the second one,as a sprog I found it very funny. [Post edited 1 Jul 10:08]
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Good old clean racist fun eh, no harm at all
Man from the 1970’s | | | |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:02 - Jul 1 with 629 views | Libero |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 07:12 - Jul 1 by Vic |
Agreed, but some people do have a tendency come across as dismissive, aggressive, which others find hard to deal with. |
Meh, I'm not too bothered if a daft bigot thinks i've being dismissive or aggressive - fck 'em, frankly.
Sure, you treat everyone you come across with a base level of respect but if you're out here regurgitating total b0llocks on repeat year-after-year and are such a fragile little sausage that you don't like the way someone is talking to you when you say your bigoted and ignorant things, that is once again, very much a them problem.
Civility is reserved for the civilised - people who are homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic, racist, ableist aren't entitled to people being polite to them while they act like animals. I hope these w@nkers do find it "hard to deal with" |  | | |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:05 - Jul 1 with 624 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 09:44 - Jul 1 by lowhouseblue |
there is a mindset in which no view other than their own can ever be legitimately held. it's black and white, i'm right. they then go on to claim that because it's their view it is objectively true because, obviously, only their determination of truth from lies, fact and fiction, can be legitimate. it gets very dull. |
Nonsense really.
People disagree with your repeated false equivalences and because a number of people disagree somehow there is a "mindset."
And would love to see a link where someone has said because it's their view it's objectively true... |  | | |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:18 - Jul 1 with 575 views | Bigalhunter |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 00:01 - Jul 1 by J2BLUE |
Not sure Sitters actually gives a sh1t about this. He just knows the core of posters who will respond and he's loving it. |
The irony is, it only ever ends up with those who hold those views, working themselves up into a froth.
Poor old wavers invested six hours trying to pin jelly to the wall yesterday and only last week, we lost another angry individual with similar proclivities.
It’s ultimately counter-productive, particularly as sitters then pops up, stating as fact, that this group belittling of outdated beliefs is putting other like-minded individuals off joining the forum.
Shame really, but in the great scheme of things, it’s all good harmless TWTD fun in the end. |  |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:36 - Jul 1 with 501 views | lowhouseblue |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:05 - Jul 1 by reusersfreekicks |
Nonsense really.
People disagree with your repeated false equivalences and because a number of people disagree somehow there is a "mindset."
And would love to see a link where someone has said because it's their view it's objectively true... |
if you can't see it, then you can't see it. fine.
'false equivalences' (as defined by you of course) is just another way of delegitimising opposing views.
the general lack of self-awareness, the belief that someone's own views are uniquely objective and correct, and the lack empathy towards others to recognise that their opposing views are legitimately held is a depressing feature of much online discussion. as i say, it becomes very dull. | |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:43 - Jul 1 with 474 views | leitrimblue |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 17:22 - Jun 30 by waveneyblue |
ok one more, as none of you appear to want to give up and it really is BORING now.
Point One
Nope, because believe me, I ignore a hell of a lot of the claptrap that's spouted on here, whenever anyone dares say something that upsets the usuals. Just felt like annoying you on this one and its clearly worked.
Point Two
"Sanctimonious"
means acting as if morally better than others, or showing that you believe you are morally better.
I never act as if I am morally better (because I'm not) or show that I believe I am morally better (because again I'm not)
You, SB, Mullet, Blue Badger, Positivity* et al - All do
* apologies if I've missed anyone out
Now that really is it, because people must be getting really bored with this now. I know I am. |
Feck me! What do I need to do to get invited into the sanctimonious WhatsApp group? |  | | |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:48 - Jul 1 with 441 views | positivity |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:43 - Jul 1 by leitrimblue |
Feck me! What do I need to do to get invited into the sanctimonious WhatsApp group? |
only our moral superior wavey can induct posters into the group; send him a pm! | |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:52 - Jul 1 with 402 views | NedPlimpton |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:43 - Jul 1 by leitrimblue |
Feck me! What do I need to do to get invited into the sanctimonious WhatsApp group? |
I think it's as simple as not being a bit sexist, by the looks of this thread |  | | |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:54 - Jul 1 with 384 views | leitrimblue |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:48 - Jul 1 by positivity |
only our moral superior wavey can induct posters into the group; send him a pm! |
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| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:54 - Jul 1 with 383 views | NedPlimpton |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:36 - Jul 1 by lowhouseblue |
if you can't see it, then you can't see it. fine.
'false equivalences' (as defined by you of course) is just another way of delegitimising opposing views.
the general lack of self-awareness, the belief that someone's own views are uniquely objective and correct, and the lack empathy towards others to recognise that their opposing views are legitimately held is a depressing feature of much online discussion. as i say, it becomes very dull. |
Do you know what's really dull?
Making ridiculous sweeping statements like "You're not allowed to joke anymore" when that's clearly not the case! | | | |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:56 - Jul 1 with 361 views | Bigalhunter |
| Not allowed to joke anymore part 115272 on 11:36 - Jul 1 by lowhouseblue |
if you can't see it, then you can't see it. fine.
'false equivalences' (as defined by you of course) is just another way of delegitimising opposing views.
the general lack of self-awareness, the belief that someone's own views are uniquely objective and correct, and the lack empathy towards others to recognise that their opposing views are legitimately held is a depressing feature of much online discussion. as i say, it becomes very dull. |
It’s quite difficult to show empathy towards individuals who openly admit to despising migrants, still find Bernard Manning funny, blindly believe everything Farage promises them and think Israel is behaving wholly appropriately.
You call it ‘delegitimising’ their views, but when they’re just too stupid and entrenched to listen to any other viewpoint, they don’t lack self-awareness?
Each to their own, I guess. | |
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