| Norwegian update apparently 18:24 - Aug 20 with 8634 views | Mullet |
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| Norwegian update apparently on 18:27 - Aug 20 with 7479 views | Leutard |
Do negotiations always take as long as they seem to have done this year, or is it just a recency bias? |  | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 18:38 - Aug 20 with 7127 views | vilanovablue |
| Norwegian update apparently on 18:27 - Aug 20 by Leutard |
Do negotiations always take as long as they seem to have done this year, or is it just a recency bias? |
As we progress they will take longer, especially with international signings. Much bigger numbers than were used to so plenty of due diligence. |  | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 18:39 - Aug 20 with 7088 views | monty_radio |
Isn't it good , Norwegian would ..................
Unless this bird has flown. | |
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| Norwegian update apparently on 18:42 - Aug 20 with 6998 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Norwegian update apparently on 18:27 - Aug 20 by Leutard |
Do negotiations always take as long as they seem to have done this year, or is it just a recency bias? |
Certainly feels that way but probably also that supporters get an hour by hour update on progress now, rather than finding out when the deal was 80% done. Also very important to negotiate hard on both ends, couldn't really believe my eyes that Ashton was criticised by some for 'messing around for just £2.5m' on Omari. Its a lot of dough to us innit. |  | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 18:45 - Aug 20 with 6875 views | NthQldITFC |
| Norwegian update apparently on 18:27 - Aug 20 by Leutard |
Do negotiations always take as long as they seem to have done this year, or is it just a recency bias? |
"It's a Regency bias, what-what!" |  |
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| Norwegian update apparently on 19:01 - Aug 20 with 6452 views | Westover |
| Norwegian update apparently on 18:27 - Aug 20 by Leutard |
Do negotiations always take as long as they seem to have done this year, or is it just a recency bias? |
Forest don't hang about three in two days. | | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 19:03 - Aug 20 with 6375 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Norwegian update apparently on 19:01 - Aug 20 by Westover |
Forest don't hang about three in two days. |
You say that but hutch's deal took weeks |  |
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| Norwegian update apparently on 19:03 - Aug 20 with 6364 views | J2BLUE |
| Norwegian update apparently on 18:27 - Aug 20 by Leutard |
Do negotiations always take as long as they seem to have done this year, or is it just a recency bias? |
They're trying to get us to take Noggin back.
We've told them we'd rather pay the 20m Euros. |  |
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| Norwegian update apparently on 19:05 - Aug 20 with 6309 views | Axeldalai_lama |
| Norwegian update apparently on 19:01 - Aug 20 by Westover |
Forest don't hang about three in two days. |
They're in the driving seat for theirs, we're not. Basically. We're waiting for them to exhaust all the possibility of better offers.
Almost by default if we're in for a player, either they or their agent will think, 'if they want me, maybe a prem club will too.' |  | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 19:06 - Aug 20 with 6291 views | Leutard |
| Norwegian update apparently on 18:45 - Aug 20 by NthQldITFC |
"It's a Regency bias, what-what!" |
We're currently negotiating a dowry with the Norwegian crown | | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 19:07 - Aug 20 with 6259 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Norwegian update apparently on 19:05 - Aug 20 by Axeldalai_lama |
They're in the driving seat for theirs, we're not. Basically. We're waiting for them to exhaust all the possibility of better offers.
Almost by default if we're in for a player, either they or their agent will think, 'if they want me, maybe a prem club will too.' |
If their agent plays the long game they should push them our way and get another deal out of it in 2 years time when we flog him. | | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 19:37 - Aug 20 with 5544 views | urbanpenguin |
This was yesterday [Post edited 20 Aug 19:37]
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| Norwegian update apparently on 19:38 - Aug 20 with 5490 views | MVBlue |
| Norwegian update apparently on 18:42 - Aug 20 by _clive_baker_ |
Certainly feels that way but probably also that supporters get an hour by hour update on progress now, rather than finding out when the deal was 80% done. Also very important to negotiate hard on both ends, couldn't really believe my eyes that Ashton was criticised by some for 'messing around for just £2.5m' on Omari. Its a lot of dough to us innit. |
£2.5m was more than we spent on anyone for years. Tis true we needed the extra for Omari.
We've truly adapted to that £10m unit price haven't we.
Nathan Broadhead at £7.5m + £2.5m is hidden away under Omari and Delap but is a lovely chunk of cash. |  |
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| Norwegian update apparently on 19:46 - Aug 20 with 5238 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Norwegian update apparently on 19:38 - Aug 20 by MVBlue |
£2.5m was more than we spent on anyone for years. Tis true we needed the extra for Omari.
We've truly adapted to that £10m unit price haven't we.
Nathan Broadhead at £7.5m + £2.5m is hidden away under Omari and Delap but is a lovely chunk of cash. |
Certainly is, especially by way of profit. Probably 50% of what we made on Omari despite the fee being 25%.
Cash in the bank wont win us points though, hopefully we can spend (some of) it well. | | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 19:52 - Aug 20 with 5077 views | vilanovablue |
| Norwegian update apparently on 18:27 - Aug 20 by Leutard |
Do negotiations always take as long as they seem to have done this year, or is it just a recency bias? |
As we progress they will take longer, especially with international signings. Much bigger numbers than were used to so plenty of due diligence. | | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 22:32 - Aug 20 with 3536 views | strikalite |
| Norwegian update apparently on 19:03 - Aug 20 by FrimleyBlue |
You say that but hutch's deal took weeks |
Yeah because thry were dealing with us, everything involving transfers takes ages with us.. |  | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 10:34 - Aug 21 with 2258 views | Herbivore |
| Norwegian update apparently on 22:32 - Aug 20 by strikalite |
Yeah because thry were dealing with us, everything involving transfers takes ages with us.. |
Do you think it's more likely that:
(a) There is something unique in the whole footballing world about ITFC which means that we and we alone take longer to do deals than every other club.
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(b) That you (and all of us) follow our transfer dealings WAY more closely than we follow what's going on at other clubs, which means we see and analyse the deal from rumour to completion, whereas with other transfers we just see them being agreed. [Post edited 21 Aug 11:19]
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| Norwegian update apparently on 10:37 - Aug 21 with 2184 views | SheffordBlue |
| Norwegian update apparently on 10:34 - Aug 21 by Herbivore |
Do you think it's more likely that:
(a) There is something unique in the whole footballing world about ITFC which means that we and we alone take longer to do deals than every other club.
Or
(b) That you (and all of us) follow our transfer dealings WAY more closely than we follow what's going on at other clubs, which means we see and analyse the deal from rumour to completion, whereas with other transfers we just see them being agreed. [Post edited 21 Aug 11:19]
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Think it's maybe a bit of both.
Our bargaining position has changed a lot over the past 4-5 windows - sometimes stronger, sometimes weaker, etc as we've been promoted/relegated and that must need adapting to at times (and maybe indicates we need to bring in someone additional to help on that side of things).
There's definitely an element of b though and you only need to drop into other clubs forums for a bit to see that this happens in most places. | |
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| Norwegian update apparently on 10:39 - Aug 21 with 2115 views | Horsham |
| Norwegian update apparently on 10:34 - Aug 21 by Herbivore |
Do you think it's more likely that:
(a) There is something unique in the whole footballing world about ITFC which means that we and we alone take longer to do deals than every other club.
Or
(b) That you (and all of us) follow our transfer dealings WAY more closely than we follow what's going on at other clubs, which means we see and analyse the deal from rumour to completion, whereas with other transfers we just see them being agreed. [Post edited 21 Aug 11:19]
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And also a point to this….
Perhaps if we do take longer then it’s because Ashton is a tough negotiator. That’s not a bad thing at all! |  | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 10:43 - Aug 21 with 1999 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Norwegian update apparently on 10:37 - Aug 21 by SheffordBlue |
Think it's maybe a bit of both.
Our bargaining position has changed a lot over the past 4-5 windows - sometimes stronger, sometimes weaker, etc as we've been promoted/relegated and that must need adapting to at times (and maybe indicates we need to bring in someone additional to help on that side of things).
There's definitely an element of b though and you only need to drop into other clubs forums for a bit to see that this happens in most places. |
I feel like our biggest 'issue' this summer has been that we are trying to recruit like a PL club without actually being one. Logic dictates that for a lot of our targets we are not going to be their first choice move and/or their clubs are not going to sanction them leaving until they have replacements. I feel like there will be a lot of movement next week and chips will begin to fall once the PL clubs all get their houses in order. | | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 10:45 - Aug 21 with 1929 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Norwegian update apparently on 10:43 - Aug 21 by tractorboy1978 |
I feel like our biggest 'issue' this summer has been that we are trying to recruit like a PL club without actually being one. Logic dictates that for a lot of our targets we are not going to be their first choice move and/or their clubs are not going to sanction them leaving until they have replacements. I feel like there will be a lot of movement next week and chips will begin to fall once the PL clubs all get their houses in order. |
The last week of the window is always a sh!t show as Prem clubs become desperate and then the domino’s fall for everyone else. |  |
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| Norwegian update apparently on 10:55 - Aug 21 with 1692 views | chantryblueboy |
| Norwegian update apparently on 10:39 - Aug 21 by Horsham |
And also a point to this….
Perhaps if we do take longer then it’s because Ashton is a tough negotiator. That’s not a bad thing at all! |
Tough negotiators get what they want for a price that is fair
Bad negotiators don’t get what they want
It’s a fine line and he has 10 days to fall on the right side of it | | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 10:59 - Aug 21 with 1558 views | Horsham |
| Norwegian update apparently on 10:55 - Aug 21 by chantryblueboy |
Tough negotiators get what they want for a price that is fair
Bad negotiators don’t get what they want
It’s a fine line and he has 10 days to fall on the right side of it |
I’m not saying you’re wrong:
Wasn’t really intending to come across as an Ashton fan boy.
Just it’s easy to close deals quickly if you make a lot of concessions. A bit of patience can work. | | | |
| Norwegian update apparently on 11:07 - Aug 21 with 1403 views | nodge_blue |
| Norwegian update apparently on 10:34 - Aug 21 by Herbivore |
Do you think it's more likely that:
(a) There is something unique in the whole footballing world about ITFC which means that we and we alone take longer to do deals than every other club.
Or
(b) That you (and all of us) follow our transfer dealings WAY more closely than we follow what's going on at other clubs, which means we see and analyse the deal from rumour to completion, whereas with other transfers we just see them being agreed. [Post edited 21 Aug 11:19]
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someone made a comment which maybe is true in that we are trying to target physical players that are capable of stepping up to the PL. Maybe that criteria is not helping us as those players are already catching the eye of PL clubs and like hackney don't want to come here. Which drags it all out and maybe means we don't get who we want. The guy from Mexico as well springs to mind here plus the lad last week from Spain.
We don't know of course. Only Ashton and McKenna really know what's going on. |  |
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| Norwegian update apparently on 11:14 - Aug 21 with 1224 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Norwegian update apparently on 19:06 - Aug 20 by Leutard |
We're currently negotiating a dowry with the Norwegian crown |
Will we give back all of the Shetland Islands, or just Fair Isle? | | | |
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