| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today 19:47 - Mar 23 with 18205 views | Nutkins_Return |
I'm sure I'll get a bit of 'i'm overreacting' downvotes but genuinely feel disgusted and embarrassed that reform our being hosted at our club. Personally don't think the club should be getting involved in anything with a political leaning to it from any party. But to host reform, and that cretinous toad Farage has really shocked me.
That's bad judgement and and Ashton has just sunk down massively in my estimation for allowing this.
Someone needs sacking for that lack of judgement. I hope Ashton didn't know about this (impossible) and apologises.
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 10:59 - Mar 24 with 1332 views | FrimleyBlue |
it's so digusting
behind the cover photo of reform on X
I feel sorry for the ipswich town foundation
https://x.com/reformparty_uk/w |  |
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 10:59 - Mar 24 with 1346 views | CrayonKing |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 10:23 - Mar 24 by PhilTWTD |
I think that's fair enough, but equally if they had cancelled the booking, which I believe wasn't in the name 'N Farage', once they were aware who it was, a significant song and dance would no doubt have been made about it. I think the club would also have seen banning them in that manner as a political act when representatives of other parties have been on tours. Equally, Reform is very much contrary to the values of inclusiveness the club promotes through its involvement in things like Rainbow Tractors and its refuge football initiative. |
If the club genuinely believes in those values then they need to stand up for them and make it clear that people who oppose those values aren't welcome |  | | |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:02 - Mar 24 with 1319 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 10:59 - Mar 24 by CrayonKing |
If the club genuinely believes in those values then they need to stand up for them and make it clear that people who oppose those values aren't welcome |
Indeed. The mealy mouthed response so far speaks volumes. | |
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:03 - Mar 24 with 1309 views | football |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 10:23 - Mar 24 by PhilTWTD |
I think that's fair enough, but equally if they had cancelled the booking, which I believe wasn't in the name 'N Farage', once they were aware who it was, a significant song and dance would no doubt have been made about it. I think the club would also have seen banning them in that manner as a political act when representatives of other parties have been on tours. Equally, Reform is very much contrary to the values of inclusiveness the club promotes through its involvement in things like Rainbow Tractors and its refuge football initiative. |
Sorry, I disagree
One thing hosting and saying it was not in the name of 'Farage' but he has a shirt, he is posing in the club. That had to have been agreed in advance | | | |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:08 - Mar 24 with 1267 views | baxterbasics |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:03 - Mar 24 by football |
Sorry, I disagree
One thing hosting and saying it was not in the name of 'Farage' but he has a shirt, he is posing in the club. That had to have been agreed in advance |
Not necessarily.
A bunch of "Farage" printed shirts may have been ordered in advance, and separately. Or were even printed elsewhere without the clubs involvement at all.
Then used for a quick ninja photo op before anyone official at the club had the chance to say "er hang on, wait a minute..."
In short, this may all just be clever work by team Nige to get a quick photo op in. In which case, you *would* expect the club to quickly disown it, of course..... |  |
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:09 - Mar 24 with 1260 views | JeanManuelThetis |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 10:23 - Mar 24 by PhilTWTD |
I think that's fair enough, but equally if they had cancelled the booking, which I believe wasn't in the name 'N Farage', once they were aware who it was, a significant song and dance would no doubt have been made about it. I think the club would also have seen banning them in that manner as a political act when representatives of other parties have been on tours. Equally, Reform is very much contrary to the values of inclusiveness the club promotes through its involvement in things like Rainbow Tractors and its refuge football initiative. |
I hear what you're saying Phil, but I don't fully agree,
It would've been significantly easier to say "we don't allow political endorsements" than to backtrack now.
But I do agree the club have a responsibility to be inclusive, family-orientated and inclusive. To allow a politician to use its ground, shirt and branding to promote their ideology (whatever it is) is unacceptable in every way. |  | | |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:16 - Mar 24 with 1195 views | glasso |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 20:15 - Mar 23 by ITFC1977 |
Don’t feel like going again this season? They haven’t said no to any political party so would allow any party to do the same. Seems like a democracy isn’t for you or you’re not really a supporter. |
Alternative viewpoint: Maybe he IS a supporter, but isn't a fascist c**t. | | | |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:20 - Mar 24 with 1156 views | glasso |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 21:32 - Mar 23 by Ewan_Oozami |
The club were in a no-win situation, if they refused, Reform make a big song and dance about not being allowed on something open to the general public, if they let Reform in, then Reform make a big play of how they were "allowed/invited/whatever" to go round ITFC - in a town that they will be making a play for at the next election.
This is the problem with incompetent shameless grifters, they will use any opportunity (good or bad) to push their agenda - then again, you might say any political party would do the same - and that's the damage that Farage is doing - even people/parties that aren't incompetent shameless grifters (ok, some might say they're all incompetent shameless grifters anyway!) have to copy him if they want to keep themselves in the spotlight. And the public get ever more cynical. |
How is it a no-win situation?
Refuse and be known as the club who turned away the most dangerous, sh*t-stirring grifter our country has seen for generations... accept and be known as the club who's on board with him. | | | |
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:21 - Mar 24 with 1153 views | andyblue231 |
It's easy to say you stand for stuff when it's easy.
The club wilfully missing of the point over the Morsy controversy made me similarly angry. It was pathetic.
I presume this one was a mistake, but you can win back a lot of people with a strong statement distancing yourself from him, [Post edited 24 Mar 11:22]
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:22 - Mar 24 with 1145 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:08 - Mar 24 by baxterbasics |
Not necessarily.
A bunch of "Farage" printed shirts may have been ordered in advance, and separately. Or were even printed elsewhere without the clubs involvement at all.
Then used for a quick ninja photo op before anyone official at the club had the chance to say "er hang on, wait a minute..."
In short, this may all just be clever work by team Nige to get a quick photo op in. In which case, you *would* expect the club to quickly disown it, of course..... |
He was met by our Director of Communications on arrival.
Of course the club knew. They may not have known the depth of what was about to happen, but they were fully aware of who was coming.
Farage's team also do a certain amount of security vetting before any visit, so it's complete nonsense to say no-one knew he was coming. |  | | |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:22 - Mar 24 with 1122 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:08 - Mar 24 by baxterbasics |
Not necessarily.
A bunch of "Farage" printed shirts may have been ordered in advance, and separately. Or were even printed elsewhere without the clubs involvement at all.
Then used for a quick ninja photo op before anyone official at the club had the chance to say "er hang on, wait a minute..."
In short, this may all just be clever work by team Nige to get a quick photo op in. In which case, you *would* expect the club to quickly disown it, of course..... |
The tours are guided, you don't just walk around on your own so getting quick ninja photo's wouldn't apply, the fact he's sitting in the press room, having a photo done, that's very easy for the tour guide to stop. Same as the dressing room one.. taking down other shirts to put his up.. you're waiting for them to do it, they don't just move on from part of the tour and go set it up in preparation for a quick ninja photo. | |
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:25 - Mar 24 with 1095 views | Tambu |
What about kids that are little gits that book birthday parties at town? Should be banned? Players that have been prosecuted?
It is literally a business decision to hire the venue. If anything the club is taking money out of their pocket.
The bottom line is, you don't own Portman Road so, it really has f all to do with you. If you are so fragile that people can't have different opinions to you and you want them silenced as opposed to conversing with them then it says more about you. |  |
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:25 - Mar 24 with 1085 views | bluejacko |
This visit has not attracted any attention on MSM at all,it’s only on here and Facebook that it has been mentioned anywhere! All right you don’t like the bloke but are you all going to be giving up your season tkts in protest? I would venture to suggest the vast majority of town fans didnt even know about the visit and probably are not giving it a second thought. | | | |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:27 - Mar 24 with 1073 views | surreyblue |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 10:23 - Mar 24 by PhilTWTD |
I think that's fair enough, but equally if they had cancelled the booking, which I believe wasn't in the name 'N Farage', once they were aware who it was, a significant song and dance would no doubt have been made about it. I think the club would also have seen banning them in that manner as a political act when representatives of other parties have been on tours. Equally, Reform is very much contrary to the values of inclusiveness the club promotes through its involvement in things like Rainbow Tractors and its refuge football initiative. |
There seems to be two issues here - one that the club allowed the tour to take place, but also how Farage/Reform have used images from the tour for political purposes.
Have you heard any rumblings through your usual sources around how the club is reacting to the latter and whether they are planning on taking any action regarding it? | | | |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:27 - Mar 24 with 1070 views | bournemouthblue |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:22 - Mar 24 by FrimleyBlue |
The tours are guided, you don't just walk around on your own so getting quick ninja photo's wouldn't apply, the fact he's sitting in the press room, having a photo done, that's very easy for the tour guide to stop. Same as the dressing room one.. taking down other shirts to put his up.. you're waiting for them to do it, they don't just move on from part of the tour and go set it up in preparation for a quick ninja photo. |
They certainly shouldn't do, I appreciate he will have extra security but people must have known this was going on and did nothing to stop it, seemingly |  |
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:30 - Mar 24 with 1007 views | Camul123 |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:25 - Mar 24 by bluejacko |
This visit has not attracted any attention on MSM at all,it’s only on here and Facebook that it has been mentioned anywhere! All right you don’t like the bloke but are you all going to be giving up your season tkts in protest? I would venture to suggest the vast majority of town fans didnt even know about the visit and probably are not giving it a second thought. |
Wotb are all over it. | | | |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:32 - Mar 24 with 983 views | Superfrans |
100% agree - and at this stage 84 agree with you and 11 disagree by the looks of it, which is encouraging. |  |
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:36 - Mar 24 with 935 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:25 - Mar 24 by bluejacko |
This visit has not attracted any attention on MSM at all,it’s only on here and Facebook that it has been mentioned anywhere! All right you don’t like the bloke but are you all going to be giving up your season tkts in protest? I would venture to suggest the vast majority of town fans didnt even know about the visit and probably are not giving it a second thought. |
Nope. It has national journalists commenting on it and questioning the PR at Town. | | | |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:39 - Mar 24 with 895 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:30 - Mar 24 by Camul123 |
Wotb are all over it. |
He said national journalists, not sister botherers. |  |
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:41 - Mar 24 with 859 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
I suppose the best thing to come out of this is the evidence there is still a lot of decent people about who resent this kind of politics. |  |
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:46 - Mar 24 with 803 views | Churchman |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:20 - Mar 24 by glasso |
How is it a no-win situation?
Refuse and be known as the club who turned away the most dangerous, sh*t-stirring grifter our country has seen for generations... accept and be known as the club who's on board with him. |
What has he been convicted of? Racist behaviours? Murder? Theft? Incitement? To my knowledge he’s not been convicted of anything beyond breech of the MPs code - a dubious honour he shares with Starmer and many others.
As such he is just MP for Clacton (a lazy one but people must have voted for him for a reason) and leader of a political party that commands a lot of popular support. Yes I believe he is exactly as you describe him. His name was pronounced Farridge at school (a fact) and he swaps the pint with a glass of wine as soon as the camera is off him (fact). If he walked in a room I was in I’d walk out.
But the club allowing him through the door does not make them ‘on board with him’. Putting themselves in a position to be used by politicians is the point and that’s something that needs to be addressed. |  | | |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:50 - Mar 24 with 770 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:22 - Mar 24 by ElderGrizzly |
He was met by our Director of Communications on arrival.
Of course the club knew. They may not have known the depth of what was about to happen, but they were fully aware of who was coming.
Farage's team also do a certain amount of security vetting before any visit, so it's complete nonsense to say no-one knew he was coming. |
If its correct that he met a senior official, the situation moves beyond mistake into intent, doesnt it? | |
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:51 - Mar 24 with 768 views | BlacknGoldnBlue |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:41 - Mar 24 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
I suppose the best thing to come out of this is the evidence there is still a lot of decent people about who resent this kind of politics. |
I think the decent people are the silent majority. Unfortunately tolerating racism is racism, it needs to be called out wherever we see it. |  |
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:56 - Mar 24 with 723 views | RKD |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:22 - Mar 24 by ElderGrizzly |
He was met by our Director of Communications on arrival.
Of course the club knew. They may not have known the depth of what was about to happen, but they were fully aware of who was coming.
Farage's team also do a certain amount of security vetting before any visit, so it's complete nonsense to say no-one knew he was coming. |
Exactly.
I can’t believe the amount of people defending the club saying they were in a difficult situation. If it’s a difficult situation then don’t roll out the red carpet and give permission to use our brand and logo. |  |
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| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:58 - Mar 24 with 687 views | baxterbasics |
| Embarrassed and a bit ashamed of the club today on 11:56 - Mar 24 by RKD |
Exactly.
I can’t believe the amount of people defending the club saying they were in a difficult situation. If it’s a difficult situation then don’t roll out the red carpet and give permission to use our brand and logo. |
Except it's not clear that any red carpet was rolled out at all, or permissions given. | |
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