| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) 18:28 - May 10 with 6741 views | jasondozzell | |  | | |  |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:41 - May 10 with 762 views | pointofblue |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:38 - May 10 by jasondozzell | Yes really. We don't watch football for people with clipboards to determine whether someone is an inch onside.. It's NFL inspired nonsense. |
I was watching Grimsby v Salford earlier when a clear offside wasn't given and changed the game. The number of bad decisions against us this season where VAR would have changed the game. Other sports have equivalents of VAR which work perfectly. It needs to be more transparent; we should hear the VAR official in discussion with the ref as with the likes of cricket and rugby. But, if used correctly, it should be a step forward for the sport. |  |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:42 - May 10 with 759 views | J2BLUE |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:37 - May 10 by jasondozzell | Most football fans agree with me. |
That VAR should be scrapped, yes. Not that no one cares about the right decisions. |  | |  |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:42 - May 10 with 761 views | jasondozzell |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:39 - May 10 by pointofblue | And a clear arm across the neck which stopped Raya from getting the ball. The pundits love blasting VAR; they're all saying it was the right decision. And it was. |
Everyone will remember where they were when the cameras went to Stockley Park. Not. |  | |  |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:43 - May 10 with 738 views | bsw72 |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:36 - May 10 by jasondozzell | It's football. Every consequential moment is now VAR. It's tedious American inspired drivel. |
VAR is Dutch. Stop being a numpty. |  | |  |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:44 - May 10 with 736 views | norfsufblue | At least we are owed a few after our last season in the Premier League 😉😉😉👌 |  | |  |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:45 - May 10 with 724 views | berkstractorboy |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:42 - May 10 by jasondozzell | Everyone will remember where they were when the cameras went to Stockley Park. Not. |
You've lost your head on this one. Take 10 mins away from the laptop! If there wasn't VAR then you are right we have to accept the ref decision and that would be hard in real time to see everything going on so see why he gave it. Where there is VAR they HAVE to make the right decisions or all fans will just be critical. Whether you like it or not when you have got a rational head on you will accept that was a foul. |  | |  |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:46 - May 10 with 719 views | Mullet | Another astounding football take |  |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:48 - May 10 with 691 views | BelsteadCav |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:40 - May 10 by jasondozzell | It's just tedious isn't it. The product has to come first. We will see the same at the world cup. Quarters with ad breaks. Half time shows. vAR 'Afrer review' The truth is the top flight is boring because money means only 4 clubs can win ti. So now they create sports entertainment instead. |
Arsenal have been crowding keepers all year. It stinks |  |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:49 - May 10 with 684 views | Scuzzer |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:40 - May 10 by homer_123 | Have you watched any Championship games this year? It's no different. |
Yeah but the Championship doesnt have VAR... |  |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:52 - May 10 with 673 views | BelsteadCav |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:40 - May 10 by homer_123 | Have you watched any Championship games this year? It's no different. |
No I didn’t use my season ticket once 🤦🏼♂️ What a ridiculous thing to say, plus there’s no VAR in the championship |  |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:52 - May 10 with 662 views | GlasgowBlue | Why? |  |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:53 - May 10 with 659 views | GlasgowBlue |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:33 - May 10 by jasondozzell | But who cares about the right decision?!! We are watching an entertainment product designed for TV. I do not watch football to watch men with headphones who look like boring corporate types look at a laptop screen. |
Were you not entertained when the review was taking place? I thought it was great tense viewing. |  |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:54 - May 10 with 657 views | berkstractorboy |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:48 - May 10 by BelsteadCav | Arsenal have been crowding keepers all year. It stinks |
and if they have committed a foul it should have been given. You can't use that to judge this incident today. We all know how unfair VAR can be and seen it generally favours the bigger teams. |  | |  |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:55 - May 10 with 645 views | JammyDodgerrr | Arsenal have been getting that goal given all season. Baffling. |  |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:55 - May 10 with 647 views | bsw72 |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:41 - May 10 by jasondozzell | So where does it end? Football is a subjective game anyway. You will never have binary right and wrong with some decisions. The pursuit of an illusory 'truth' is a sickness! |
Football is governed by a a clear set of laws maintained by IFAB, and the fact that referees exercise discretion no more makes the game subjective than a judge interpreting law makes justice subjective. Vast majority of decisions made by referees are binary, based on these laws. VAR was supposed to correct those which are clearly incorrect. Current implementation of VAR is poor but that doesn’t actually support the statements you are making. Fans have got angry because they can see the right call was missed. That indignation is itself proof the game operates on objective rules. |  | |  |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:56 - May 10 with 640 views | BloomBlue | The thing that always makes me laugh about this topic is when a ref has a bad game, as we've seen this season, a huge percentage of fans moan like f%%k and demand the ref should never manage another game. The arguement for scraping VAR is let the ref, referee, if he makes a mistake then so be it, that's part of football. Same old funny world, scrap VAR & accept mistakes, don't have VAR then the ref should be sacked when he makes a mistake. People should remember is was fans who also demanded VAR to correct the referee mistakes. |  | |  |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:56 - May 10 with 636 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior | It’s done its job there. Although there is so much contact at Conners all over the box when you consider where the ball is and that it’s against the keeper. God their fanbase will be insufferable all summer though. |  |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:56 - May 10 with 634 views | bsw72 |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:52 - May 10 by BelsteadCav | No I didn’t use my season ticket once 🤦🏼♂️ What a ridiculous thing to say, plus there’s no VAR in the championship |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:58 - May 10 with 626 views | grow_our_own | Correct decision. VAR is flawed, but overall an improvement over football without it. This isn't the 1970s. No one wants to go back to lawless, free-for-all challenges on the keeper. Also, I'd prefer West Ham to go down than Spurs. Corrupt porn-baron Chairman, as dislikeable as ours. Drove them into giant white-elephant stadium that West Ham fans hate. I can see them spiralling downwards in a half-empty stadium. Serve the WH owners and Boris Johnson (London Mayor) right for a dumb decision to build a stadium was never suited to be hybrid athletics/football (football was only legacy option), and then make disparate, botched attempt to retrofit "legacy" to it, which involved us taxpayers subsidising West Ham. [Post edited 10 May 19:03]
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:59 - May 10 with 615 views | urbanpenguin |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:36 - May 10 by jasondozzell | It's football. Every consequential moment is now VAR. It's tedious American inspired drivel. |
What has it got to do with America? |  |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:59 - May 10 with 612 views | SitfcB | Correct decision I think. The problem is VAR. Get rid of it. |  |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 19:02 - May 10 with 596 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:59 - May 10 by urbanpenguin | What has it got to do with America? |
He often no idea what he’s talking about, look at his take about our squad. Just a couple of players needed apparently. Like cricket and rugby haven’t used video technology forever. In fact American sports often avoid when you think of the strike zone in baseball and limited challenges in NFL. Just more anti American nonsense. |  |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 19:05 - May 10 with 576 views | pointofblue |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 19:02 - May 10 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior | He often no idea what he’s talking about, look at his take about our squad. Just a couple of players needed apparently. Like cricket and rugby haven’t used video technology forever. In fact American sports often avoid when you think of the strike zone in baseball and limited challenges in NFL. Just more anti American nonsense. |
Actually the American challenge system as used in baseball and the NFL seems to be hybrid version those who want to limit VAR promote. Give each number of challenges per game - kept if successful, lost if not - and, otherwise, VAR cannot interfere. |  |
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| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 19:07 - May 10 with 566 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 18:35 - May 10 by urbanpenguin | It was a foul on the keeper. But I also counted two fouls on West Ham players at the same time. I don't know how to untangle anything like that. |
Honestly I would sack off corners entirely until we work out a better way to restart the game. Every time commits multiple fouls at every corner. It's a joke and I'm bored of watching it. |  | |  |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 19:09 - May 10 with 555 views | jasondozzell |
| VAR is a disgrace. (n/t) on 19:02 - May 10 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior | He often no idea what he’s talking about, look at his take about our squad. Just a couple of players needed apparently. Like cricket and rugby haven’t used video technology forever. In fact American sports often avoid when you think of the strike zone in baseball and limited challenges in NFL. Just more anti American nonsense. |
What was I wrong about this season o wise one? I said we have a spine and we won't be doing a Sunderland. We need to add about 8 first teamers. |  | |  |
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