| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? 11:42 - Nov 22 with 2532 views | Dubtractor |
Stating the obvious I know, but the mood of our support will really swing based on the result.
Win, and it's a reasonable (though not good) return from our 5 games against top teams, and we keep on the coat tails of the leading pack.
Lose and its just 4 points from those 5 games, the gap to the top 6 could be as much as 10 points, and there will be a lot of questions asked about the team and management.
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 11:46 - Nov 22 with 1952 views | hype313 |
Pivitol game for me, almost must win if we really have visions of a promotion push via the play offs, lose and 10 points would be too huge a gap to make up given our form this season so far. |  |
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| It's a major indictment of our season.... on 11:56 - Nov 22 with 1914 views | Bloots |
.....that we aren't halfway through it yet, but we are already facing "vital" games.
Our poor start has meant that we already have absolutely no margin for error.
We need a run of wins desperately. |  |
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 11:57 - Nov 22 with 1916 views | Steve_M |
I'm fully prepared for 70% + possession and a 2-0 defeat but we shouldn't be fearing Rotherham at home in the third division.,
We need to be much sharper on Saturday in good positions. That and not conceding early. |  |
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 11:57 - Nov 22 with 1910 views | galacticoblue |
if MK Dons and Sunderland win their games in hand we are we are effectively 10 points off the playoffs now. I want Cook to succeed, but if he doesn't get it right tomorrow I will start to fear the worst. His record to date is very poor. |  | | |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 12:06 - Nov 22 with 1844 views | Herbivore |
It does feel like a very big game. If we lose we really are well off the pace fast approaching the midpoint of the season. Top 2 has already gone just 18 games into the season and that's a failure, lose tomorrow and the play offs are going to require sustained 2 points per game form over the remaining 27 games. Do we look capable of that?
However, win this and we go into a winnable home game at the weekend with our tails up and with the gap to 6th looking not insurmountable.
It is mad though that there's so much riding on game 19 and it speaks to how badly we've messed things up to date. [Post edited 22 Nov 2021 12:12]
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 12:07 - Nov 22 with 1847 views | SomethingBlue |
Yep, I see the word "pivotal" used below and while we're saying that a lot I think it's valid here. We can't lose any further ground and we need to show that Wycombe wasn't a one-off. Vital that we pull something off. | |
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 12:38 - Nov 22 with 1707 views | J2BLUE |
I think we need 4 point from the next 6 minimum. With a decent gap between Crewe and the next league game it wouldn't surprise me if we got rid if we get anything less. A new manager would need time before the window. I think Cook's time here is entering sink or swim territory.
Just to be clear, I am not personally calling for his head. If we are 10 points off the play offs though we do need to be at least starting to think about Plan B. |  |
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 13:13 - Nov 22 with 1617 views | Keaneish |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 12:38 - Nov 22 by J2BLUE |
I think we need 4 point from the next 6 minimum. With a decent gap between Crewe and the next league game it wouldn't surprise me if we got rid if we get anything less. A new manager would need time before the window. I think Cook's time here is entering sink or swim territory.
Just to be clear, I am not personally calling for his head. If we are 10 points off the play offs though we do need to be at least starting to think about Plan B. |
7 pts from the next three minimum but 3 of those have to be against Rotherham tomorrow night as a mandatory. Win all 3 and we’re back to 2 pts ppg which has to be the target, we obviously. |  |
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 13:24 - Nov 22 with 1587 views | Lightworker |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 12:38 - Nov 22 by J2BLUE |
I think we need 4 point from the next 6 minimum. With a decent gap between Crewe and the next league game it wouldn't surprise me if we got rid if we get anything less. A new manager would need time before the window. I think Cook's time here is entering sink or swim territory.
Just to be clear, I am not personally calling for his head. If we are 10 points off the play offs though we do need to be at least starting to think about Plan B. |
Agree with this. I desperately want Cook to succeed but if we lose tomorrow I will unfortunately be of the opinion that we need to make a change. I know that sounds ridiculous based on one game but I really think it is that important.
Lose tomorrow and I think the players will start losing belief and that will need to be turned around quickly. |  | | |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 13:28 - Nov 22 with 1561 views | Illinoisblue |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 13:24 - Nov 22 by Lightworker |
Agree with this. I desperately want Cook to succeed but if we lose tomorrow I will unfortunately be of the opinion that we need to make a change. I know that sounds ridiculous based on one game but I really think it is that important.
Lose tomorrow and I think the players will start losing belief and that will need to be turned around quickly. |
And that’s Cook’s big problem and one (almost) entirely of his own making. Our terrible awful start means he has precious little wriggle room from here on in. The amount of points we’ve thrown away makes me wants to spit blood. This season is nothing but indigestion and heartburn. |  |
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| It's a major indictment of our season.... on 13:31 - Nov 22 with 1525 views | Steve_M |
| It's a major indictment of our season.... on 11:56 - Nov 22 by Bloots |
.....that we aren't halfway through it yet, but we are already facing "vital" games.
Our poor start has meant that we already have absolutely no margin for error.
We need a run of wins desperately. |
Don't forget the improvement though; we're merely average now rather than poor.
Quite staggering that Cook has only managed two consecutive league wins once in 30 matches. In the third division. | |
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 13:36 - Nov 22 with 1488 views | JDB23 |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 13:13 - Nov 22 by Keaneish |
7 pts from the next three minimum but 3 of those have to be against Rotherham tomorrow night as a mandatory. Win all 3 and we’re back to 2 pts ppg which has to be the target, we obviously. |
What happens if we don't get 7 from the next 3? Or if we fail to win tomorrow? Will you still be calling fans deluded for questioning Cook's position? Doesn't it show how bad things have gone thus far if you are stating a win is mandatory in November?
Hopefully we don't get the answers to those questions as we go on a winning run starting tomorrow. It really is a huge game and beating Rotherham would be a massive boost to the confidence of all involved. | | | |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 13:37 - Nov 22 with 1473 views | chicoazul |
Gotta play Chaplin and Aluko for goals. Maybe bring 1P back too. |  |
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 13:59 - Nov 22 with 1405 views | itfcjoe |
The problem is until we can string a few wins together and get somewhere like where we need to be, each defeat just exacerbates how far we are from where we need to be - if we lose tomorrow we need 2 points per game for the rest of the season to get to 78 points.
78 points is what it took to finish 6th on Goal Difference in 2014/15 where a number of people who can't stand McCarthy would claim we 'stumbled' into the play offs. |  |
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:03 - Nov 22 with 1377 views | itfcjoe |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 12:38 - Nov 22 by J2BLUE |
I think we need 4 point from the next 6 minimum. With a decent gap between Crewe and the next league game it wouldn't surprise me if we got rid if we get anything less. A new manager would need time before the window. I think Cook's time here is entering sink or swim territory.
Just to be clear, I am not personally calling for his head. If we are 10 points off the play offs though we do need to be at least starting to think about Plan B. |
I think we've left it too late if we want to make a change to the manager, really our only hope now is Cook getting it right so that option has to be exhausted in full before a change can be made
That's unless things go disastrously over next 3/4/5 games and we only pick up something like 1 point per game and then the season will be as good as dead as it is and needing a miracle just to get into the play offs. | |
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:07 - Nov 22 with 1351 views | textbackup |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 13:59 - Nov 22 by itfcjoe |
The problem is until we can string a few wins together and get somewhere like where we need to be, each defeat just exacerbates how far we are from where we need to be - if we lose tomorrow we need 2 points per game for the rest of the season to get to 78 points.
78 points is what it took to finish 6th on Goal Difference in 2014/15 where a number of people who can't stand McCarthy would claim we 'stumbled' into the play offs. |
the final day saw us lose, and the other team we needed to lose, lost.
stumble is the correct word. we didnt convincingly fly into them did we.
personally i left blackburn that day on a downer that we couldnt muster up enough fight to win a must win game
and if we were to do the same this season it would also be us stumbling in.... and i'd feel the same [Post edited 22 Nov 2021 14:11]
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:14 - Nov 22 with 1290 views | BseaBlue |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:07 - Nov 22 by textbackup |
the final day saw us lose, and the other team we needed to lose, lost.
stumble is the correct word. we didnt convincingly fly into them did we.
personally i left blackburn that day on a downer that we couldnt muster up enough fight to win a must win game
and if we were to do the same this season it would also be us stumbling in.... and i'd feel the same [Post edited 22 Nov 2021 14:11]
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You are correct of course but with the uptake in form required to get there now, it would mean coming off of the back of good form.
I'm not sure that Paul Cook can get us to that point. He was right when he said our 'inconsistency is our consistency' and we don't appear to show signs of going on the run that we need to. As Joe has said above though, I don't think we are at the point of making a change yet as it could just make things worse.
My big hope is that we can continue to put chances away like we have been and then reinforce in January with a left back and quality centre half. Whether it will be too late by then is another matter though..... |  | | |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:17 - Nov 22 with 1267 views | itfc1108 |
The Cambridge manager described Rotherham as Powerful, relentless and ruthless.
I wish we could be like that. | | | |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:18 - Nov 22 with 1252 views | Keaneish |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 13:36 - Nov 22 by JDB23 |
What happens if we don't get 7 from the next 3? Or if we fail to win tomorrow? Will you still be calling fans deluded for questioning Cook's position? Doesn't it show how bad things have gone thus far if you are stating a win is mandatory in November?
Hopefully we don't get the answers to those questions as we go on a winning run starting tomorrow. It really is a huge game and beating Rotherham would be a massive boost to the confidence of all involved. |
I haven’t called any fan deluded for questioning his position. I’ve called others different things for calling for him to be sacked without any sense of what would follow or sensible suggestions to the contrary. I’ve also said as much toward fans stating he has, “4 games to save his job” pre Plymouth.
A win is always a mandatory against your rivals at home isn’t it? It’s just taken on added significance now given the capitulation at Sunderland. | |
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:20 - Nov 22 with 1229 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:18 - Nov 22 by Keaneish |
I haven’t called any fan deluded for questioning his position. I’ve called others different things for calling for him to be sacked without any sense of what would follow or sensible suggestions to the contrary. I’ve also said as much toward fans stating he has, “4 games to save his job” pre Plymouth.
A win is always a mandatory against your rivals at home isn’t it? It’s just taken on added significance now given the capitulation at Sunderland. |
Don't think it's fair to call the Sunderland game a "capitulation"... |  |
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:26 - Nov 22 with 1191 views | BseaBlue |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:18 - Nov 22 by Keaneish |
I haven’t called any fan deluded for questioning his position. I’ve called others different things for calling for him to be sacked without any sense of what would follow or sensible suggestions to the contrary. I’ve also said as much toward fans stating he has, “4 games to save his job” pre Plymouth.
A win is always a mandatory against your rivals at home isn’t it? It’s just taken on added significance now given the capitulation at Sunderland. |
Based on his existing record I don't blame some fans for taking that stance, when there are clear concerns though! Likewise, your point about alternatives and what would follow is also very valid. (and I understand the need for patience etc)
What doesn't sit right though is the need for people to defend him at all costs. Yes, in terms of performances there have been plenty of positive signs but to my mind, we are still mid table in league one and he is thus failing in his job. I sincerely hope he does turn it around though and I am desperate for him to be a success here. | | | |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:35 - Nov 22 with 1137 views | Herbivore |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:07 - Nov 22 by textbackup |
the final day saw us lose, and the other team we needed to lose, lost.
stumble is the correct word. we didnt convincingly fly into them did we.
personally i left blackburn that day on a downer that we couldnt muster up enough fight to win a must win game
and if we were to do the same this season it would also be us stumbling in.... and i'd feel the same [Post edited 22 Nov 2021 14:11]
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Wonder when we'll next finish with that many points in the second tier though, buh. Feels a long way off at the minute. | |
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:47 - Nov 22 with 1094 views | Keaneish |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 14:26 - Nov 22 by BseaBlue |
Based on his existing record I don't blame some fans for taking that stance, when there are clear concerns though! Likewise, your point about alternatives and what would follow is also very valid. (and I understand the need for patience etc)
What doesn't sit right though is the need for people to defend him at all costs. Yes, in terms of performances there have been plenty of positive signs but to my mind, we are still mid table in league one and he is thus failing in his job. I sincerely hope he does turn it around though and I am desperate for him to be a success here. |
I think we’re all desperate for him to be a success here and that’s boiling over into frustrations vented in different ways. We’re on the cusp and we can all see it and sense it but we can’t alter it, that’s probably the most frustrating thing especially when frailties we thought had been eradicated, resurface.
Blind faith is nonsense but this isn’t a PR drive at Portman Road the moment, it’s a very tangible and some performances have given renewed optimism. Objective criticism should always be the aim. I’m a big Cook fan but he has made some questionable decisions recently and I feel there’s things he could be doing in game that he’s not. Let’s see what tomorrow night brings. | |
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| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 15:11 - Nov 22 with 987 views | peterleeblue |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 13:28 - Nov 22 by Illinoisblue |
And that’s Cook’s big problem and one (almost) entirely of his own making. Our terrible awful start means he has precious little wriggle room from here on in. The amount of points we’ve thrown away makes me wants to spit blood. This season is nothing but indigestion and heartburn. |
"This season is nothing but indigestion and heartburn"
Exactly how I felt when that weak header went in on Saturday on the 85minute. |  | | |
| Huge game tomorrow isn't it? on 15:20 - Nov 22 with 946 views | clive_baker |
Yeah, biggest of the season so far I would say. 3 points and we're back on track, lose or draw and it won't do much to gain on those above us. We should beat Crewe on Sunday.
If we take 6 points from these 2 we'll have averaged 2 ppg for the last 10 games, and if you extend that back to 14 games we're only 1 point off 2 ppg. 27 points from a possible 42. Over a full season that's 89 points. Even with our slow start prior to that 14 games, it will be enough for p/offs if we kept it up.
It would also be a 14 game period that includes 7 of the current top 9, 4 of which away.
Its not all doom and gloom, but I would love to see us put back to back wins togethe and show a bit more of a complete performance. After a strong first half on Saturday I thought we were dire after the break. |  |
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