| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n/t) 18:01 - Jun 16 with 26181 views | BryanPlug |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 18:01 - Jun 17 with 1976 views | chicoazul |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 17:51 - Jun 17 by Steve_M |
Ultimately, that depends on the exact nature of those discussions - the EADT reporting suggests it was pretty blunt in most cases - but I do think he might have to in some cases. It's a lot of change for one Summer.
I'm yet to be convinced by Cook's decision making since he's been here though, team selection was generally erratic and his post-match comments largely contradictory. That just seems to have been compounded by blaming the players for everything but then taking options on players like Nsiala and Donacien and trying to keep Edwards.
We certainly won't get every player we're in for, things like Bradley happen and we'll have other targets. It is too early to be unduly concerned - and I'm not - but there are echoes of Paul Hurst's solitary transfer window at the moment where we didn't get players in as good as those we lost and are yet to recover. Cook is a better manager and he'll get far more out of whatever team is here in August than Hurst managed - but he might have made things a lot harder for himself. |
If we do bring loads of players in and we don’t start like a train he’ll be out by Xmas and the owners will bring in their own man. If we don’t bring loads of players in he really is fcked. |  |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 18:19 - Jun 17 with 1924 views | Steve_M |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 18:01 - Jun 17 by chicoazul |
If we do bring loads of players in and we don’t start like a train he’ll be out by Xmas and the owners will bring in their own man. If we don’t bring loads of players in he really is fcked. |
Undoubtedly, Ashton won't indulge him in the way some fans have done to date.
I hope not though, really do not want to waste another season in this crappy division. |  |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 19:17 - Jun 17 with 1861 views | N2_Blue |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 18:19 - Jun 17 by Steve_M |
Undoubtedly, Ashton won't indulge him in the way some fans have done to date.
I hope not though, really do not want to waste another season in this crappy division. |
"...won't indulge him in the way some fans have done to date."
Why do you make comments like this? What is so bad about a lot of fans being behind the manager who has been here 5 minutes as is looking to build his own team.
I don't think anyone would have got much out of the squad last year, they were done. Yes it was disappointing but i think its unfair to hold Cook accountable for it.
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 20:57 - Jun 17 with 1756 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 15:02 - Jun 17 by chrismakin |
it is the point
There are clubs with new managers, clubs about to lose managers, players turning down extended contracts. a raft of squad changes happening at clubs across the UK not just town |
Which other clubs have told virtually all of their players that they can leave? |  | | |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 21:13 - Jun 17 with 1715 views | Steve_M |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 19:17 - Jun 17 by N2_Blue |
"...won't indulge him in the way some fans have done to date."
Why do you make comments like this? What is so bad about a lot of fans being behind the manager who has been here 5 minutes as is looking to build his own team.
I don't think anyone would have got much out of the squad last year, they were done. Yes it was disappointing but i think its unfair to hold Cook accountable for it.
All about the coming season. |
Because I’m still surprised at just how badly Cook did in the 16 matches he was here, plenty of mitigating circumstances and he was appointed at just about the worst time (too late for the transfer window but enough matches left it wasn’t ‘all or nothing’) but 19 points and failing to score in many of those games was really poor. At the point he was appointed, play-offs were a more than reasonable target but we didn’t get close.
He’ll properly - and rightly- be judged on next season but, as with Lambert in 2018-19, he has done poorly at his first task here. It’s not wholly either man’s fault but nor should it just be ignored. Changing so many players is a high risk approach, it might be necessary and I hope it works but Cook will be the first to suffer if it doesn’t. | |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 22:15 - Jun 17 with 1617 views | bobbyramsey |
Game changer are the people running the show now and all of their/Cooks decisions regarding players futures would have been discussed at length. It makes no difference who the manager is, Gamechanger have very big plans and they don't involve most of the current squad, Cook was just the person who delivered the news. Don't shoot the messenger and all that.... [Post edited 17 Jun 2021 22:16]
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 22:17 - Jun 17 with 1612 views | Vic |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 09:13 - Jun 17 by footers |
Let's be frank.
You're just bent out of shape now most of your slacker mates have been shipped out and you're no longer the ITK bod you used to be.
Simple as that.
It's a new era and time to move on. |
Joe’s a good guy Footers and doesn’t deserve these sorts of comments. You didn’t used to be this bitter against the good guys. We’re all in this together, at the beginning of a new era, do we really need to be at each other throats? |  |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 08:47 - Jun 18 with 1448 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 09:23 - Jun 17 by Beckets |
I’d be careful with the assumption that Richardson would leave Wigan before Cook leaves us. Richardson was appointed by their current owners, Cook wasn’t. |
Having been negotiating the purchase of the club for 14 months, there's no way the new owners didn't know about or have an input in the hiring of Cook. |  |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 09:18 - Jun 18 with 1394 views | dirtyboy |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 21:13 - Jun 17 by Steve_M |
Because I’m still surprised at just how badly Cook did in the 16 matches he was here, plenty of mitigating circumstances and he was appointed at just about the worst time (too late for the transfer window but enough matches left it wasn’t ‘all or nothing’) but 19 points and failing to score in many of those games was really poor. At the point he was appointed, play-offs were a more than reasonable target but we didn’t get close.
He’ll properly - and rightly- be judged on next season but, as with Lambert in 2018-19, he has done poorly at his first task here. It’s not wholly either man’s fault but nor should it just be ignored. Changing so many players is a high risk approach, it might be necessary and I hope it works but Cook will be the first to suffer if it doesn’t. |
Mitigating circumstances being key.
The players had not performed particularly well, Cook would have expected he'd have done better as much as anyone, but didn't.
We had a huge number of players out of contract who you'd have thought would have been playing for careers but oddly never felt that way (not saying they weren't but just didn't feel right) but Cook couldn't possibly tie up contracts until he was certain of which players he wanted, so catch 22 there.
You then have a general feeling around the club, not a great deal of positivity from anywhere (us included) and it's like turning a tanker at full speed, slow, difficult and not quite sure if it will make the turn where you want it!
The tanker is now in dock and changes can happen on and off the pitch. Cook can reassess without duress of games every 3 or 4 days and actually get to know players first.
We all know a good run in the league can do wonders, building a team from scratch might not yield immediate results, so patience is still needed, Christmas is too early to bin him off, unless we're miles adrift and poor everywhere in general.
I think we'll see a marked improvement fairly quickly though. |  | | |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 09:23 - Jun 18 with 1381 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 21:13 - Jun 17 by Steve_M |
Because I’m still surprised at just how badly Cook did in the 16 matches he was here, plenty of mitigating circumstances and he was appointed at just about the worst time (too late for the transfer window but enough matches left it wasn’t ‘all or nothing’) but 19 points and failing to score in many of those games was really poor. At the point he was appointed, play-offs were a more than reasonable target but we didn’t get close.
He’ll properly - and rightly- be judged on next season but, as with Lambert in 2018-19, he has done poorly at his first task here. It’s not wholly either man’s fault but nor should it just be ignored. Changing so many players is a high risk approach, it might be necessary and I hope it works but Cook will be the first to suffer if it doesn’t. |
It's really quite simple. We weren't very good ...so the manager was sacked. A new manager comes in with no ability to change the players who got the last manager sacked, plus little time to train them better... and lo and behold the players still weren't very good.
So new manager gets rid of the not-very-good players.
The fact that you attach some blame to Cook for this team shows he was well within his rights to get rid of them. Why should he have his good name tarnished by this not-very-good bunch of players? | |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 09:29 - Jun 18 with 1339 views | chrismakin |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 09:23 - Jun 18 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's really quite simple. We weren't very good ...so the manager was sacked. A new manager comes in with no ability to change the players who got the last manager sacked, plus little time to train them better... and lo and behold the players still weren't very good.
So new manager gets rid of the not-very-good players.
The fact that you attach some blame to Cook for this team shows he was well within his rights to get rid of them. Why should he have his good name tarnished by this not-very-good bunch of players? |
Because flash. Despite barely winning any games since November. Apparently we played absolutely brilliant and won 3 games in a row which changed everyones opinions on the players. Or that's how it appears to be judged.
Interesting that Alan Lee likes the honesty of Cook. Similar to that of Kieron Dyers thoughts. Almost like they appreciate the shower of sht he inherited. |  |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 09:30 - Jun 18 with 1341 views | DanTheMan |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 09:23 - Jun 18 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's really quite simple. We weren't very good ...so the manager was sacked. A new manager comes in with no ability to change the players who got the last manager sacked, plus little time to train them better... and lo and behold the players still weren't very good.
So new manager gets rid of the not-very-good players.
The fact that you attach some blame to Cook for this team shows he was well within his rights to get rid of them. Why should he have his good name tarnished by this not-very-good bunch of players? |
I don't think it is that simple. Didn't Cook end up with a worse points-to-games ratio than Lambert did.
I think at the very least some of us expected some improvement, which I didn't see. I was really happy with the appointment and ended up very disappointed with the results and how we played.
As fans we seem to have this habit of just lashing out and putting all the blame at one groups door. We did it with Mick, then Hurst, then Lambert and now we've moved onto all the players it seems. In my opinion we had enough decent players to get into the playoffs. |  |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:03 - Jun 18 with 1275 views | MrTown |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:30 - Jun 17 by itfcjoe |
Drinan is apparently one of the four we want to keep! |
I don't know why that would be such a problem. It'll be a cheap deal, comfortable being 3 or 4 choice.
No issue with him being that sort of striker.
Still need another top striker to challenge Norwood. [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 10:04]
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:12 - Jun 18 with 1241 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 09:30 - Jun 18 by DanTheMan |
I don't think it is that simple. Didn't Cook end up with a worse points-to-games ratio than Lambert did.
I think at the very least some of us expected some improvement, which I didn't see. I was really happy with the appointment and ended up very disappointed with the results and how we played.
As fans we seem to have this habit of just lashing out and putting all the blame at one groups door. We did it with Mick, then Hurst, then Lambert and now we've moved onto all the players it seems. In my opinion we had enough decent players to get into the playoffs. |
We were struggling to reach them all season. And struggling to beat anyone above about 10th for much of it. So your assertion doesn't really stack up.
We struggled scoring all season - weren't we 4th bottom in terms of goals for? That's obviously not Cook's fault.
And I think Cook's 16 games brought a very similar amount of points to Lambert's last 16.
What fans have a habit of doing is blaming the manager for everything. When that's a manager who's only just arrived, been unable to get any of his own squad in, and has had very little time to even train what he's been handed, then that's especially odd IMO. We also had a load of players coming to the end of their contracts - plus the distraction of a takeover.
Yes, we'd all like to have seen some improvement, Cook more than anyone. But apart from the players not being very good all season, there were also enough mitigating circumstances to think not much, if any, blame can be put at Cook's door just yet. | |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:24 - Jun 18 with 1215 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:12 - Jun 18 by The_Flashing_Smile |
We were struggling to reach them all season. And struggling to beat anyone above about 10th for much of it. So your assertion doesn't really stack up.
We struggled scoring all season - weren't we 4th bottom in terms of goals for? That's obviously not Cook's fault.
And I think Cook's 16 games brought a very similar amount of points to Lambert's last 16.
What fans have a habit of doing is blaming the manager for everything. When that's a manager who's only just arrived, been unable to get any of his own squad in, and has had very little time to even train what he's been handed, then that's especially odd IMO. We also had a load of players coming to the end of their contracts - plus the distraction of a takeover.
Yes, we'd all like to have seen some improvement, Cook more than anyone. But apart from the players not being very good all season, there were also enough mitigating circumstances to think not much, if any, blame can be put at Cook's door just yet. |
“And I think Cook's 16 games brought a very similar amount of points to Lambert's last 16”
Apart from us averaging half a point per game less, and being 7th in the table when he arrived compared to 19th in the table for the period he managed us of course. And that was a slate of fixtures which includes games against the bottom 8, plus another 3 in the bottom half, from 16 games
Even on the goalscoring front yes we hardly prolific, but we were at least averaging more than a goal a game. I don’t think I need to post the stats under Cook here…
But obviously if you ignore all that we did just as well, and definitely didn’t get worse in any way shape or form
EDIT: just realised you were referring to Lamberts last 16 games for some reason, but we got more points in those too, so the point stands [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 10:27]
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:29 - Jun 18 with 1202 views | chrismakin |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:24 - Jun 18 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
“And I think Cook's 16 games brought a very similar amount of points to Lambert's last 16”
Apart from us averaging half a point per game less, and being 7th in the table when he arrived compared to 19th in the table for the period he managed us of course. And that was a slate of fixtures which includes games against the bottom 8, plus another 3 in the bottom half, from 16 games
Even on the goalscoring front yes we hardly prolific, but we were at least averaging more than a goal a game. I don’t think I need to post the stats under Cook here…
But obviously if you ignore all that we did just as well, and definitely didn’t get worse in any way shape or form
EDIT: just realised you were referring to Lamberts last 16 games for some reason, but we got more points in those too, so the point stands [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 10:27]
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It is known Walker and gill took the last 3 games of Lamberts time here
The 16 games before that he got 18 points the same as PC.
What was always interesting is that we struggled to beat anyone in the top 8 of the form table when they played us. This wasnt a PC thing it was the same through the season and whilst on paper we played teams fighting for their lives. 3 out of 4 of them were in the top 6 of form going into those last weeks of the season.
Let's just be honest. Those 3 games of Gill and Walker turned peoples heads despite them being awful games.
Remembering hull were 15th in form at the time we beat them.
I did a thread a while back which basically showed from the beginning purple patch photo end oct.. we were then 16th in form table until Lambert left. We were 16th under PC too. It finished exactly how the majority of the season had been. [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 10:35]
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:35 - Jun 18 with 1177 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:29 - Jun 18 by chrismakin |
It is known Walker and gill took the last 3 games of Lamberts time here
The 16 games before that he got 18 points the same as PC.
What was always interesting is that we struggled to beat anyone in the top 8 of the form table when they played us. This wasnt a PC thing it was the same through the season and whilst on paper we played teams fighting for their lives. 3 out of 4 of them were in the top 6 of form going into those last weeks of the season.
Let's just be honest. Those 3 games of Gill and Walker turned peoples heads despite them being awful games.
Remembering hull were 15th in form at the time we beat them.
I did a thread a while back which basically showed from the beginning purple patch photo end oct.. we were then 16th in form table until Lambert left. We were 16th under PC too. It finished exactly how the majority of the season had been. [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 10:35]
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Yes, obviously if you just arbitrarily delete some wins and replace them with worse results then you can tell any story you like
Why stop there though, I heard Cook wasn’t really in charge for that 5 million hour run in which we didn’t score a goal, he was only in charge on the last day so has a 100% record. Viva Cookie! 🙌🻠| |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:39 - Jun 18 with 1161 views | chrismakin |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:35 - Jun 18 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Yes, obviously if you just arbitrarily delete some wins and replace them with worse results then you can tell any story you like
Why stop there though, I heard Cook wasn’t really in charge for that 5 million hour run in which we didn’t score a goal, he was only in charge on the last day so has a 100% record. Viva Cookie! 🙌🻠|
Not at all.
He oversaw a run of 0-0 draws
Just like lambert at one stage went through some non scoring games.
But your comparison is between Lambert and PC. So yes you can remove those 3 games as Lambert did not select or manage that side.
You can then have a discussion about gill and walker getting something from those games themselves. But that's a luxury of having Norwood for all 3 and Involved In the goals. A luxury PC didn t have for all games. [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 11:04]
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:42 - Jun 18 with 1150 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:35 - Jun 18 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
Yes, obviously if you just arbitrarily delete some wins and replace them with worse results then you can tell any story you like
Why stop there though, I heard Cook wasn’t really in charge for that 5 million hour run in which we didn’t score a goal, he was only in charge on the last day so has a 100% record. Viva Cookie! 🙌🻠|
The reality is that for the bulk of Lambert's reign we were absolutely turd. Barring two ridiculously strong starts to the past two seasons we were by and large a lower half L1 side over a sustained period of time. Cook didn't come in and turn that around but the length of our malaise and poor performance points to something far more fundamental and insidious and is why the hard reset was needed this summer IMO. |  | | |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:47 - Jun 18 with 1133 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:39 - Jun 18 by chrismakin |
Not at all.
He oversaw a run of 0-0 draws
Just like lambert at one stage went through some non scoring games.
But your comparison is between Lambert and PC. So yes you can remove those 3 games as Lambert did not select or manage that side.
You can then have a discussion about gill and walker getting something from those games themselves. But that's a luxury of having Norwood for all 3 and Involved In the goals. A luxury PC didn t have for all games. [Post edited 18 Jun 2021 11:04]
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No, the point I was making was that the team performed far worse after Cook arrived than it did before. Which it undoubtedly did - unless of course you choose to just ignore all the good results and focus on the bad ones
We also never had 4 0-0 draws out of 5 under Lambert last season, in fact we only had 3 during the whole season - so no idea where that one has come from
Norwood played in 10 of Cook’s 16 games. He only played in 16 of the 30 league games prior to that - so Cook had the luxury of playing Norwood more often than his predecessor too | |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:48 - Jun 18 with 1124 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:42 - Jun 18 by tractorboy1978 |
The reality is that for the bulk of Lambert's reign we were absolutely turd. Barring two ridiculously strong starts to the past two seasons we were by and large a lower half L1 side over a sustained period of time. Cook didn't come in and turn that around but the length of our malaise and poor performance points to something far more fundamental and insidious and is why the hard reset was needed this summer IMO. |
I don’t disagree with any of that, Lambert was dreadful. However none of that changes the fact that we got even worse under Cook, and you'd have to be a complete ostrich to pretend otherwise as it’s there in black and white when looking at any tangible metric | |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 11:02 - Jun 18 with 1072 views | chrismakin |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 10:47 - Jun 18 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
No, the point I was making was that the team performed far worse after Cook arrived than it did before. Which it undoubtedly did - unless of course you choose to just ignore all the good results and focus on the bad ones
We also never had 4 0-0 draws out of 5 under Lambert last season, in fact we only had 3 during the whole season - so no idea where that one has come from
Norwood played in 10 of Cook’s 16 games. He only played in 16 of the 30 league games prior to that - so Cook had the luxury of playing Norwood more often than his predecessor too |
We also never had 4 0-0 draws
Yep.sorry was thinking of 0 goals scored not draws.
Regarding norwood. We only lost 3 games that he was involved in under PC.
Which showed how important he was to things. That's my point about 'those wins' that he was part of. Would they have got them without him? If not then would people then say PC did better when he came in?
The overall consensus is those 3 games kept the team somehow 1 point off playoffs. Which come on we had no right being anywhere near after our run of form since November. | |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 11:04 - Jun 18 with 1068 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 19:02 - Jun 16 by itfcjoe |
We are currently in the position where everything the club does is defended and no word can be heard about it.
Ashton said we had bids in for 5 players on June 1st, doesn’t take much to realise things aren’t going as hoped now it’s 2 weeks later and none of them are through the door |
'We are currently in the position where everything the club does is defended and no word can be heard about it'.
That was kind of your outlook in the last couple of the years regarding the players. The shower of slackers having an easy payday at Ipswich. You claimed they were one of the best squads in the league, LOL. Anything wrong they do then lay the blame on the manager, eh?
Andre Dozzell even claims he got out of the 'comfort zone at Ipswich'.
The club is doing everything right 100%. They have promised us the summer of changes. Cook wants to get rid of these slackers and get the better players to move the club forward. |  | | |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 11:07 - Jun 18 with 1042 views | chrismakin |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 11:04 - Jun 18 by Mach_foreignBlue |
'We are currently in the position where everything the club does is defended and no word can be heard about it'.
That was kind of your outlook in the last couple of the years regarding the players. The shower of slackers having an easy payday at Ipswich. You claimed they were one of the best squads in the league, LOL. Anything wrong they do then lay the blame on the manager, eh?
Andre Dozzell even claims he got out of the 'comfort zone at Ipswich'.
The club is doing everything right 100%. They have promised us the summer of changes. Cook wants to get rid of these slackers and get the better players to move the club forward. |
"Comfort zone"
Players willingly talking about managers behind their backs to random blokes in toilets ( same bloke who held a players meeting behind hursts back.
KD. Al saying how refreshing and honest PC is.
Maybe just maybe people will soon start to realise the players arent the Angels they think they are because they have a drink with them or they've been here for a while. | |
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| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 12:01 - Jun 18 with 973 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Anyone getting the feeling this squad rebuilding isn’t quite going to plan? (n on 11:02 - Jun 18 by chrismakin |
We also never had 4 0-0 draws
Yep.sorry was thinking of 0 goals scored not draws.
Regarding norwood. We only lost 3 games that he was involved in under PC.
Which showed how important he was to things. That's my point about 'those wins' that he was part of. Would they have got them without him? If not then would people then say PC did better when he came in?
The overall consensus is those 3 games kept the team somehow 1 point off playoffs. Which come on we had no right being anywhere near after our run of form since November. |
We also only won 3 games in which Norwood played under Cook too…
And we weren’t 7th in early March because we won 3 games in a row, we were 7th as we’d gained the 7th most points over the 30 games played in the season. And then we finished lower and further away from the playoffs, as we gained the 19th most points in the table from there on out | |
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