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Herbivore..... 17:12 - Jan 24 with 12644 viewsBloots

....why are you accusing me of being a racist, a homophobe and/or a bigot?

Posting a total fabrication like that isn't really on.

What do you get out of it?

I've avoided footers since he made a similar statement.

Anyone that knows me personally or anything about me in real life knows that couldn't be further from the truth.

There is no need for it at all.

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Herbivore..... on 10:05 - Jan 25 with 1744 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Herbivore..... on 09:14 - Jan 25 by textbackup

Bloots made a joke of me taking family to mm dons away, I might find a bridge to leap off

Could you be more sensitive if you tried?!


Well it clearly depends on context but that sounds like a joke to me, and the odd one liner like that wouldn't bother me.

Why is it we're all being told to be more tolerant and respect others these days and yet I've been told twice in this thread that my concerns don't matter and I'm just being too sensitive?!

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Herbivore..... on 10:06 - Jan 25 with 1732 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Herbivore..... on 09:23 - Jan 25 by GlasgowBlue

Bloots driven off the board after being called a racist, homophobe and bigot.

But dollers is the real victim in all of this.


Unnecessary. I was making a different point about Bloots not being an angel. I've said Herbs clearly overstepped the mark.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Herbivore..... on 10:22 - Jan 25 with 1649 viewsbazza

Herbivore..... on 09:59 - Jan 25 by BanksterDebtSlave

You obviously haven't been following my work....but yeah, on the whole except if you're called Frimleymakin perhaps!


Sounds like a pastry
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Herbivore..... on 10:28 - Jan 25 with 1611 viewsSitfcB

Herbivore..... on 08:25 - Jan 25 by The_Flashing_Smile

You haven't been on the end of it, clearly, so it's not going to stand out. If you'd had someone following you round making jibes and downarrowing everything you post, whilst it seems minor in isolation it gets wearing when all totted up.


Blub.

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Herbivore..... on 10:28 - Jan 25 with 1615 viewsDarth_Koont

Herbivore..... on 10:06 - Jan 25 by The_Flashing_Smile

Unnecessary. I was making a different point about Bloots not being an angel. I've said Herbs clearly overstepped the mark.


Indeed. Bloots liked to have a pop as did Herbivore. Silly to pretend otherwise.

But shame to see both go.

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Herbivore..... on 10:50 - Jan 25 with 1520 viewsDanTheMan

Herbivore..... on 09:56 - Jan 25 by J2BLUE

I'm still here.


But for how long? I reckon you're one bad egg away from an eggplosion.

Soon it will only be me and blueas left. And I'm still not convinced I'm not blueas.

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Herbivore..... on 10:55 - Jan 25 with 1478 viewschicoazul

Herbivore..... on 08:04 - Jan 25 by Mullet

Just noticed Boots has gone. Black mark that.


Said before, say again; covid and the last 3 years of this government has driven many people on TWTD completely mad. Imagine some of them on here in 2003?

In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
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Herbivore..... on 11:09 - Jan 25 with 1401 viewsStokieBlue

Herbivore..... on 10:55 - Jan 25 by chicoazul

Said before, say again; covid and the last 3 years of this government has driven many people on TWTD completely mad. Imagine some of them on here in 2003?


Alternatively, people like you have started posting bizarre hot-takes which aren't supported by any evidence and which are seemingly designed to annoy and wind-up.

Some of your posting lately has been awful and when challenged you just revert to "it's my opinion" as if that's a valid excuse. Opinions aren't equal, especially when the evidence totally undermines them. This is the real fallacy of our times and one you insist on perpetuating.

As always though, it's never Chico's fault, it's always someone else who is wrong and causing the arguments.

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Herbivore..... on 11:10 - Jan 25 with 1396 viewsMullet

Herbivore..... on 10:50 - Jan 25 by DanTheMan

But for how long? I reckon you're one bad egg away from an eggplosion.

Soon it will only be me and blueas left. And I'm still not convinced I'm not blueas.


Nah he’s an institution. Like a cockroach, it could go nuclear here and he’d still be posting in good order

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Herbivore..... on 11:13 - Jan 25 with 1370 viewsJ2BLUE

Herbivore..... on 11:10 - Jan 25 by Mullet

Nah he’s an institution. Like a cockroach, it could go nuclear here and he’d still be posting in good order


Thanks...I think.

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Herbivore..... on 11:14 - Jan 25 with 1372 viewsMullet

Herbivore..... on 10:55 - Jan 25 by chicoazul

Said before, say again; covid and the last 3 years of this government has driven many people on TWTD completely mad. Imagine some of them on here in 2003?


Nah the world had moved on, you can’t have TWTD of old these days. It’s mayonnaise spicy now snd still upsets a chunk of the fan base in much greater ways it seems.

Recent events have damaged everyone but I think it’s way more long term. No one has fake sued Phil for ages.

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Herbivore..... on 11:18 - Jan 25 with 1334 viewsFrimleyBlue

Herbivore..... on 11:09 - Jan 25 by StokieBlue

Alternatively, people like you have started posting bizarre hot-takes which aren't supported by any evidence and which are seemingly designed to annoy and wind-up.

Some of your posting lately has been awful and when challenged you just revert to "it's my opinion" as if that's a valid excuse. Opinions aren't equal, especially when the evidence totally undermines them. This is the real fallacy of our times and one you insist on perpetuating.

As always though, it's never Chico's fault, it's always someone else who is wrong and causing the arguments.

SB


Morning SB.

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Herbivore..... on 11:19 - Jan 25 with 1326 viewsJ2BLUE

Herbivore..... on 11:18 - Jan 25 by FrimleyBlue

Morning SB.


So it was you all along.

Truly impaired.
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Herbivore..... on 11:21 - Jan 25 with 1314 viewsStokieBlue

Herbivore..... on 11:18 - Jan 25 by FrimleyBlue

Morning SB.


Good morning FrimleyMakin.

SB

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Herbivore..... on 11:31 - Jan 25 with 1247 viewsRyorry

Herbivore..... on 09:32 - Jan 25 by PhilTWTD

No, but he asked to go, for the time being at least. It was totally wrong to make the accusations which were made and I didn't get a particularly contrite or respectful response when I put the matter to Herbivore. I've thought about it overnight and I think the issue is significant enough for a ban. Driving a long-time poster off the forum with an unnecessary, inflammatory and potentially libellous claim does rather cross a line.


I'm glad you made the point about the "unnecessary, inflammatory and potentially libellous (false) claim", as I do think a distinction needs to be made between that kind of extremely serious accusation posted out of sheer malice & without any evidence or provocation; and "heat of the argument" jibes and insults that are quite often seen. Some people are known by their usernames on here to non-member friends/rellies irl who read the site, so for them to read the character assassinations full of made-up stuff a handful on here have posted for reasons best known to themselves over the years, is distressing.

Having said that, the way some people regularly chuck in 'needling' terms like "sociopath" when they can't win others round to their p.o.v. via legitimate debate in arguments, esp. when they piously subscribe to the regular, excellently supportive mental health threads on here, is unacceptable & hypocritical. They seem to forget that deliberately goading others with abuse they know to be untrue, is bound to cause stress at the very least.

Be kind people, life is tough enough without us fellow ITFC fans slinging sh1t at each other.

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Herbivore..... on 11:43 - Jan 25 with 1206 viewsJ2BLUE

Herbivore..... on 11:31 - Jan 25 by Ryorry

I'm glad you made the point about the "unnecessary, inflammatory and potentially libellous (false) claim", as I do think a distinction needs to be made between that kind of extremely serious accusation posted out of sheer malice & without any evidence or provocation; and "heat of the argument" jibes and insults that are quite often seen. Some people are known by their usernames on here to non-member friends/rellies irl who read the site, so for them to read the character assassinations full of made-up stuff a handful on here have posted for reasons best known to themselves over the years, is distressing.

Having said that, the way some people regularly chuck in 'needling' terms like "sociopath" when they can't win others round to their p.o.v. via legitimate debate in arguments, esp. when they piously subscribe to the regular, excellently supportive mental health threads on here, is unacceptable & hypocritical. They seem to forget that deliberately goading others with abuse they know to be untrue, is bound to cause stress at the very least.

Be kind people, life is tough enough without us fellow ITFC fans slinging sh1t at each other.


We cannot be babysat 24/7 and unfortunately we cannot self police either as a certain group think anyone who doesn't agree with them 100% is a thicko who deserves abuse.

Not sure what the answer is.

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Herbivore..... on 11:46 - Jan 25 with 1186 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Herbivore..... on 11:43 - Jan 25 by J2BLUE

We cannot be babysat 24/7 and unfortunately we cannot self police either as a certain group think anyone who doesn't agree with them 100% is a thicko who deserves abuse.

Not sure what the answer is.


Real names/faces?

Only half joking, I think there'd be way less abuse if people could see posters as real human beings. I think we all forget a bit sometimes. I've found myself being less confrontational with people once I know them in real life.

Trust the process. Trust Phil.

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Herbivore..... on 11:48 - Jan 25 with 1168 viewsJ2BLUE

Herbivore..... on 11:46 - Jan 25 by The_Flashing_Smile

Real names/faces?

Only half joking, I think there'd be way less abuse if people could see posters as real human beings. I think we all forget a bit sometimes. I've found myself being less confrontational with people once I know them in real life.


Would probably kill the board.

I was thinking more like a subscription fee, independent mods with a genuine set of rules/code of conduct.

Truly impaired.
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Herbivore..... on 11:51 - Jan 25 with 1141 viewsSwansea_Blue

Herbivore..... on 09:22 - Jan 25 by BiGDonnie

This is a bit of a weird way to look at it.


I'm fairly sure Phil's capable of dealing with it.

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Herbivore..... on 11:52 - Jan 25 with 1133 viewsDarth_Koont

Herbivore..... on 11:09 - Jan 25 by StokieBlue

Alternatively, people like you have started posting bizarre hot-takes which aren't supported by any evidence and which are seemingly designed to annoy and wind-up.

Some of your posting lately has been awful and when challenged you just revert to "it's my opinion" as if that's a valid excuse. Opinions aren't equal, especially when the evidence totally undermines them. This is the real fallacy of our times and one you insist on perpetuating.

As always though, it's never Chico's fault, it's always someone else who is wrong and causing the arguments.

SB


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Quite agree. Almost any subject from Covid to the economy, Ipswich Town to bands of the 80s needs specialist insight and evidence to fully comprehend. So when we’re trading thoughts on here people need to understand there is an exchange rate* for ideas and opinions.

1 expert and peer-reviewed analysis = 10 fact-based opinions = 1 million hot takes.

*The above exchange rate is a hot take.

On a more serious note, I always think one of the bigger failings of education is that we don’t really focus on how to think and form our views (empiricism, critical analysis, trustworthy sources etc.). Which is criminal when we know more and more how fallible the brain is and how our perceptions of reality are often just that ... subjective and sometimes even completely false perceptions. For anyone who hasn’t listened to it, the current Think with Pinker podcast series is a great starting point.

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Herbivore..... on 11:53 - Jan 25 with 1121 viewsclive_baker

Herbivore..... on 11:31 - Jan 25 by Ryorry

I'm glad you made the point about the "unnecessary, inflammatory and potentially libellous (false) claim", as I do think a distinction needs to be made between that kind of extremely serious accusation posted out of sheer malice & without any evidence or provocation; and "heat of the argument" jibes and insults that are quite often seen. Some people are known by their usernames on here to non-member friends/rellies irl who read the site, so for them to read the character assassinations full of made-up stuff a handful on here have posted for reasons best known to themselves over the years, is distressing.

Having said that, the way some people regularly chuck in 'needling' terms like "sociopath" when they can't win others round to their p.o.v. via legitimate debate in arguments, esp. when they piously subscribe to the regular, excellently supportive mental health threads on here, is unacceptable & hypocritical. They seem to forget that deliberately goading others with abuse they know to be untrue, is bound to cause stress at the very least.

Be kind people, life is tough enough without us fellow ITFC fans slinging sh1t at each other.


You don't half talk sense Ryorry. I wonder what is going on 'behind the screen' in many cases on here, and can't help but sympathise with some who seemingly need to try and 'win' arguments, that are often just opinion. Perhaps its indicative of deep rooted insecurity, as some seem utterly incapable of being civil and communicating with others in a grown up manner. It's remarkable of adults really, I wish them all well nonetheless.

You've been on the end of some distateful stuff yourself from where I'm sat, over the years. Completely unfairly too I might add. Echo those final sentiments of yours completely. God bless you.

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Herbivore..... on 11:54 - Jan 25 with 1119 viewsSwansea_Blue

Herbivore..... on 09:03 - Jan 25 by giant_stow

While I agree about kangaroo courts on social media, Bloots had every right to publicly answer Herbivore's charge and not just keep it private.


Sure, he's got the right. It just doesn't appear to be particularly effective.

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Herbivore..... on 11:54 - Jan 25 with 1109 viewsFunge

Herbivore..... on 08:56 - Jan 25 by BiGDonnie

Shame he's gone. One of the few who's been around since I started posting 18/19 years ago. Always with the Bloots username too. Hopefully he's back soon.


Yep, Bloots is a TWTD institution.

Hope he comes back.

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Herbivore..... on 12:07 - Jan 25 with 1027 viewsmarchy

Herbivore..... on 11:43 - Jan 25 by J2BLUE

We cannot be babysat 24/7 and unfortunately we cannot self police either as a certain group think anyone who doesn't agree with them 100% is a thicko who deserves abuse.

Not sure what the answer is.


Part of the answer is ban the sort of people who repeatedly behave that way, regardless of the longevity of their posting on here, and we've taken a step towards that today.
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Herbivore..... on 12:18 - Jan 25 with 976 viewsfabian_illness

This is all very sad.
We should all get along really and accept that sometimes people have different opinions.
I often think the up and down arrow system can lead to trouble, rather than just ignore someone’s comments, people posting downvotes can lead to arguments.
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