| 433 Line Ups 16:16 - Aug 20 with 13103 views | itfcjoe |
I accept not everyone will agree with these teams, but we can put out 2 strong teams at this level, and also have proper quality in a 3rd XI
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KVY-----Chambers----Woolfenden----Ward
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------------Bishop-----------Huws---------------
---Jackson---------------------------Edwards--
---------------------Norwood--------------------
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Donacien-----Nsiala----Wilson----Kenlock
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------------Judge-----------El Mizouni---------------
---Lankester---------------------------Sears--
---------------------Hawkins--------------------
----------------------Wright-------------------------
Crowe-----Cotter----Ndaba----Nydam
--------------------McGavin-----------------------
------------Nolan-----------Dozzell---------------
---Folami---------------------------Dobra--
---------------------Drinan--------------------
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| 433 Line Ups on 16:19 - Aug 20 with 7422 views | portmanking |
Don't tell me you're feeling positive vibes, Joe?! |  | | |
| 433 Line Ups on 16:19 - Aug 20 with 7407 views | Bluefish |
WeNeEdMoReSiGnInGs |  |
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| 433 Line Ups on 16:21 - Aug 20 with 7394 views | Bluefish |
back 4s don't look great but neither were the back 4s of Coventry or Rotherham, it is about doing a job and our midgield and forwards should destroy this league | |
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| 433 Line Ups on 16:22 - Aug 20 with 7399 views | J2BLUE |
Our attacking options are ridiculous. If Lambert fails again then he needs to give up management. |  |
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| 433 Line Ups on 16:23 - Aug 20 with 7388 views | Herbivore |
Can quibble over who is in which line up but if we play that system we do have pretty ridiculous strength in depth in most areas. I'll look forward to us lining up in a 4-4-2 on opening day. |  |
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| 433 Line Ups on 16:23 - Aug 20 with 7389 views | clive_baker |
Pretty much bang on I would say. Poor old Andre.
The question marks for me really are around what I would call the 'long term injured returnees', namely Huws, Sears, Bishop and Judge. All have excellent pedigree but have had significant injuries over recent years, albeit not all in the immediate past, which can take an awfully long time to come back from, IF at all. On paper they could be hugely valuable, and all for different reasons had disrupted seasons last year. I do wonder if the extended break might've helped those chaps more than most. Even if 2 of that quartet could get back to their former selves and stay fit, they'll walk into the starting XI.
EDIT: Also such a notable contrast between back 4 number 1 and 2. Let's hope we have more luck with injuries defensively. [Post edited 20 Aug 2020 16:27]
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| 433 Line Ups on 16:30 - Aug 20 with 7331 views | pointofblue |
We have to stick with 4-3-3; get a pattern and style of play going and players will be able to be rested without too many issues. The problem last year was we switched approach so much no one felt confident in their roles.
And Lambert needs to pick and stick with a number one; the only excuse to switch is if the chosen one is clearly out of form/making basic errors. | |
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| 433 Line Ups on 16:31 - Aug 20 with 7320 views | Herbivore |
| 433 Line Ups on 16:30 - Aug 20 by pointofblue |
We have to stick with 4-3-3; get a pattern and style of play going and players will be able to be rested without too many issues. The problem last year was we switched approach so much no one felt confident in their roles.
And Lambert needs to pick and stick with a number one; the only excuse to switch is if the chosen one is clearly out of form/making basic errors. |
All of this was equally true last summer. I'd like to believe things will be different this time but I don't have too much faith that they will be. | |
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| 433 Line Ups on 16:31 - Aug 20 with 7324 views | itfcjoe |
| 433 Line Ups on 16:23 - Aug 20 by clive_baker |
Pretty much bang on I would say. Poor old Andre.
The question marks for me really are around what I would call the 'long term injured returnees', namely Huws, Sears, Bishop and Judge. All have excellent pedigree but have had significant injuries over recent years, albeit not all in the immediate past, which can take an awfully long time to come back from, IF at all. On paper they could be hugely valuable, and all for different reasons had disrupted seasons last year. I do wonder if the extended break might've helped those chaps more than most. Even if 2 of that quartet could get back to their former selves and stay fit, they'll walk into the starting XI.
EDIT: Also such a notable contrast between back 4 number 1 and 2. Let's hope we have more luck with injuries defensively. [Post edited 20 Aug 2020 16:27]
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I guess the key point is that 3 of those long term injured are CMs, and in our 3rd XI we have McGavin, Dozzell and Nolan as a 3 so that is a position we are blessed with strength in depth.
I think if any of the first choice defenders drop out, there is a massive drop in quality - but all over the rest of the pitch we have very good depth. KVY to Donacien probably the biggest drop off in the whole squad as just 2 totally different types of players as well as KVY being much better | |
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| 433 Line Ups on 16:32 - Aug 20 with 7314 views | hype313 |
With our potential firepower we need to play 433, we should have enough up top to detract from the back if things get shaky.
I'm thinking Newcastle in the 90's. |  |
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| 433 Line Ups on 16:34 - Aug 20 with 7294 views | tractorboy1978 |
| 433 Line Ups on 16:23 - Aug 20 by clive_baker |
Pretty much bang on I would say. Poor old Andre.
The question marks for me really are around what I would call the 'long term injured returnees', namely Huws, Sears, Bishop and Judge. All have excellent pedigree but have had significant injuries over recent years, albeit not all in the immediate past, which can take an awfully long time to come back from, IF at all. On paper they could be hugely valuable, and all for different reasons had disrupted seasons last year. I do wonder if the extended break might've helped those chaps more than most. Even if 2 of that quartet could get back to their former selves and stay fit, they'll walk into the starting XI.
EDIT: Also such a notable contrast between back 4 number 1 and 2. Let's hope we have more luck with injuries defensively. [Post edited 20 Aug 2020 16:27]
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Norwood's fitness is going to be key too. He's already 3 weeks behind the rest and we've seen in recent years a few times how not being fit during pre-season can lead to not really being fully fit/at it for a full season. Hawkins obviously brings attributes in that role but he's not the waspy goal-getter JN is. | | | |
| 433 Line Ups on 16:40 - Aug 20 with 7267 views | clive_baker |
| 433 Line Ups on 16:31 - Aug 20 by itfcjoe |
I guess the key point is that 3 of those long term injured are CMs, and in our 3rd XI we have McGavin, Dozzell and Nolan as a 3 so that is a position we are blessed with strength in depth.
I think if any of the first choice defenders drop out, there is a massive drop in quality - but all over the rest of the pitch we have very good depth. KVY to Donacien probably the biggest drop off in the whole squad as just 2 totally different types of players as well as KVY being much better |
Blessed with strength and overstocked, probably. Depends how the season starts but I wouldn't be surprised to see 1 or 2 of McGavin, Dobra, El Miz go out on loan to get some valuable experience. I'm sure if there was interest in Nolan and / or Dozzell that would be taken seriously too.
Donacien and Wilson are utter turd, and Nsiala is a bit of a liability too. I wouldn't fancy seeing any of them next season but we are where we are with that. Hopefully they're not often called upon. | |
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| 433 Line Ups on 16:41 - Aug 20 with 7269 views | ITFC_Forever |
Hard to argue with much of that, although if Judge finds the form we know he's capable of, he should get in the first team.
Tough on Nolan and Dozzell.... possibly Dozzell in for El Miz in the second team. |  |
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| 433 Line Ups on 16:51 - Aug 20 with 7215 views | SomethingBlue |
When you put it like this, it's an insane amount of depth — especially in midfield/attacking midfield areas. Stronger than last year, I'd argue, because the likes of Dobra and El Mizouni are more ready while Lankester is back. It has to be a top-two push from the start, surely. | |
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| 433 Line Ups on 16:56 - Aug 20 with 7183 views | davblue |
That 1st team looks a good side on paper, trouble is the game isn't played on paper!
Got to get that team gelled and coherent and playing in a style that suits the players to get the most out of it. |  | | |
| 433 Line Ups on 16:58 - Aug 20 with 7159 views | Dennyx4 |
| 433 Line Ups on 16:30 - Aug 20 by pointofblue |
We have to stick with 4-3-3; get a pattern and style of play going and players will be able to be rested without too many issues. The problem last year was we switched approach so much no one felt confident in their roles.
And Lambert needs to pick and stick with a number one; the only excuse to switch is if the chosen one is clearly out of form/making basic errors. |
A few thoughts / worries for me.
1) If Jackson is going to play wide in a three, we need to play him there, so that he can get used to the role and be comfortable in it. I can't remember him doing that role last season at all(maybe an odd 45 minutes).
2) I am not convinced this system suits Downes. I like Downes a lot, but sitting in front of the back four does not necessarily play to his strengths. He has a terrific engine, gets up and down, closes players down and can be a real nuisance. I know he can do the tackling part of the role, but believe we lose some of what he can bring, by playing him there.
3) Can Hawkins lead the line - just posing the question, as I haven't seen him play - hopefully he is the answer. Norwood for me similar to Jackson, looks like he needs somebody to work with up front with.
Agree we should try to play with 3 central midfielders, as we have so many options. |  | | |
| 433 Line Ups on 19:08 - Aug 20 with 6959 views | BlueBadger |
That will probably be the line ups for the first three league games as Lambert is anticipating 'playing a lot of games'.. |  |
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| 433 Line Ups on 19:12 - Aug 20 with 6949 views | tractorboy1978 |
| 433 Line Ups on 19:08 - Aug 20 by BlueBadger |
That will probably be the line ups for the first three league games as Lambert is anticipating 'playing a lot of games'.. |
I think we are going to see a lot of rotation again this season. Just hopefully within a set system where each player knows their role. | | | |
| 433 Line Ups on 20:05 - Aug 20 with 6840 views | Rocky |
I would expect El Mizouni, Lankester and perhaps Dobra to play a larger part than, say, Edwards and Hughes. |  | | |
| 433 Line Ups on 20:30 - Aug 20 with 6796 views | ParisBlue |
| 433 Line Ups on 19:12 - Aug 20 by tractorboy1978 |
I think we are going to see a lot of rotation again this season. Just hopefully within a set system where each player knows their role. |
Hope not, but if we do we may be OK. With the compressed schedule the teams with larger squads should see the benefit. We saw this as in the PL when that restarted.
Let's just try and win every game. |  |
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| 433 Line Ups on 21:00 - Aug 20 with 6702 views | footers |
'433 line ups'
Is that Lambert's record for last year? |  |
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| 433 Line Ups on 21:09 - Aug 20 with 6685 views | thebooks |
Well, it *seems* we have the depth, but the injury-proneness of the squad is what really strikes me. Two of your first choice midfield would manage about 15 games between them. Will Sears return to full fitness? Norwood.
As for your line-ups...
For me, Norwood simply isn't good enough. I like Jackson on the right, but I'd be really keen to get Lankester in, based on his appearances in our relegation season. Not sure how to resolve that.
Also, I want Dozzell to get a proper chance.
But yeah, we have a good squad for this league, but it's fairly easy to start picking it apart. It'd be good to able to clear out some of the permanently crocked players and make the squad a bit leaner — it seems a little formless to me at the moment; over staffed in some areas (realise you can't just move the likes of Hughes on). |  | | |
| 433 Line Ups on 21:12 - Aug 20 with 6680 views | xrayspecs |
Agree with a lot of this. A few different views:
Not convinced about Norwood - how many sitters missed last season? He jumped two divisions last season, so hopefully is closer to what we need this season once fit.
Donacien - Nsiala- Wilson-Kenlock. Gulp. Lets hope none of the first team defence get injured...
I suspect that Judge, El Miz and Lankester will challenge for a place in the first 11.
No idea yet on Hawkins.
Would like to see Dozzell, Dobra, Drinnan challenge. | | | |
| 433 Line Ups on 21:35 - Aug 20 with 6622 views | ITFC_Forever |
Don’t get all the hate for Norwood.
Was our joint-too scorer, in a reduced season in which he spent half or more of it carrying an injury.
Him and Jackson were developing a good partnership, with Jackson pulling wide to supply the chances for Norwood. | |
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| 433 Line Ups on 21:56 - Aug 20 with 6573 views | PJH |
| 433 Line Ups on 21:35 - Aug 20 by ITFC_Forever |
Don’t get all the hate for Norwood.
Was our joint-too scorer, in a reduced season in which he spent half or more of it carrying an injury.
Him and Jackson were developing a good partnership, with Jackson pulling wide to supply the chances for Norwood. |
I think you need to add the words 'to miss' to your last sentence.
He did not have a bad season but he did miss a hell of a lot of chances with a lot of them being the sort that a good striker should bury more often than he did.
If fully fit he might do better but it seems to me that he needs to take a higher percentage of his chances. |  | | |
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