| Suicide prevention 13:30 - Nov 19 with 3010 views | Mullet |
Look after yourself lads and ladettes. Just found out another of my old training partners decided to take his own life.
Feels like someone in my extended circle every few weeks right now.
The nhs do wonderful things for those in need if you ever feel you can’t talk to someone you know. |  |
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| Suicide prevention on 13:35 - Nov 19 with 2346 views | Keno |
Thanks for sharing Mulley. I hope you are doing ok?
and can I just add if anyone needs on TWTD even needs someone to talk please drop me, or any one of a number of far more sensible posters a PM, and you'll have a friend
TWTD is a very special place and I'm sure we are all here for each other
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| From experience, I'd suggest that.... on 13:35 - Nov 19 with 2331 views | Bloots |
.....your 3rd line isn't always the case unfortunately.
RIP. |  |
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| Suicide prevention on 13:41 - Nov 19 with 2285 views | Herbivore |
Sorry to hear that, hope you're okay. The modern world does not appear to be geared towards promoting mental well being and the last 18 months have exacerbated that further still. |  |
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| From experience, I'd suggest that.... on 13:43 - Nov 19 with 2269 views | BlueBadger |
| From experience, I'd suggest that.... on 13:35 - Nov 19 by Bloots |
.....your 3rd line isn't always the case unfortunately.
RIP. |
Sadly, I'm forced to agree form that from both a family AND professional point of view.
RIP. |  |
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| Suicide prevention on 13:47 - Nov 19 with 2258 views | GavTWTD |
The NHS is definately the first place to go but weren't able to help me short term as they had a very long waiting list.
I found the Samaritans weren't for me, I'm afraid to say. It might work for some so definately worth calling.
However I found help through https://www.counselling-directory.org.uk .
and I saw a private counsellor that I could build a relationship with and while I had an issue years ago, I have seen her again in the last year. If you can afford it, I would definately look down that list to see if there's someone you think you can relate to. This isn't just related to suicide, but any mental issues you may have. |  |
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| Suicide prevention on 13:47 - Nov 19 with 2241 views | homer_123 |
Very sorry to hear that. Hope you are OK fella. |  |
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| Suicide prevention on 13:48 - Nov 19 with 2226 views | footers |
Very sorry to hear that, Mullers.
It's a silent killer.
Hope anyone who is struggling knows they can reach out here or elsewhere. There's always someone willing to listen. |  |
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| Suicide prevention on 13:59 - Nov 19 with 2125 views | Oldboy |
So sorry for your loss. Unfortunately I have lost a few dear friends to suicide. Always ask myself if I could have done more, think it is called self guilt.
Take care and please pm me if you need a chat. |  | | |
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| Suicide prevention on 14:00 - Nov 19 with 2122 views | clive_baker |
I'm sorry to hear that.
I think I'm right in saying suicide is the biggest killer of men under 50, and the highest suicide rate is among men aged 45-49. I've often wondered why men over index so significantly and consistently, perhaps we're not as comfortable or good at talking about things. Perhaps it's societal pressures, or maybe it's how we're put together. No idea, but desperately sad and as someone who has experienced it in my wider family I know all too well the hurt it can bring.
All the best. [Post edited 19 Nov 2021 14:05]
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| Suicide prevention on 14:00 - Nov 19 with 2111 views | Swansea_Blue |
Very sorry to hear that Mullers. Thoughts and prayers. |  |
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| Suicide prevention on 14:01 - Nov 19 with 2093 views | hype313 |
Awful news Mullers, thoughts are with you, it really is a big issue and we all need to check in with eachother regularly. |  |
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| Suicide prevention on 14:14 - Nov 19 with 2017 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Really sad to hear that, mental health is so important. Check in with friends, your call could be the most important one they ever receive.
Always good to remind us all of that so thanks for sharing Mullet, must be a tough time |  |
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| Suicide prevention on 14:18 - Nov 19 with 1998 views | BlueBlueBluex2 |
I am sorry to hear that of course and I worry that it is indeed becoming a more common thing.
A old work colleague (mid 40's, two teenage sons) took his own life a fortnight ago, funeral was yesterday. Not being able to cope and Tinnitus were largely to blame.
You, we, I gotta start talking more. |  | | |
| Suicide prevention on 14:26 - Nov 19 with 1947 views | chicoazul |
All the best Mullett. |  |
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| Suicide prevention on 14:45 - Nov 19 with 1928 views | Guthrum |
| Suicide prevention on 13:41 - Nov 19 by Herbivore |
Sorry to hear that, hope you're okay. The modern world does not appear to be geared towards promoting mental well being and the last 18 months have exacerbated that further still. |
One of the most damaging things which has been done over the past few decades has been the erosion of mental health provision.
As an example, in Gloucestershire, the number of beds in residential units has been cut by something approaching 90% since the early 1990s. Some of that was the closure of grim old hospitals, but the capacity has not been replaced.
It is a real effort to get help for people, even in a state of severe crisis. Often the police end up having to pick them up, take them to A&E where they are assessed and released in the early hours of the morning, often far from home and with no means of transport. Or they are turned away, their friends told (as I have been) "Can't you look after them?" People in a deranged or suicidal state, needing 24-hour supervision. Care in the Community, they called it. |  |
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| Suicide prevention on 14:49 - Nov 19 with 1906 views | noggin |
I have lost 6 colleagues and friends to suicide in the last few years. All but one of those were men. Sorry for your loss Mullers. [Post edited 19 Nov 2021 14:54]
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| Suicide prevention on 15:16 - Nov 19 with 1782 views | Pendejo |
| Suicide prevention on 14:49 - Nov 19 by noggin |
I have lost 6 colleagues and friends to suicide in the last few years. All but one of those were men. Sorry for your loss Mullers. [Post edited 19 Nov 2021 14:54]
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Lost 2 cousins under the age of 40 to suicide and a colleague who decided to step in front of a train.
All 3 were down to relationship breakdowns, just don't know how you would identify it going that extreme or how to help. |  |
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| Suicide prevention on 15:23 - Nov 19 with 1741 views | itfc_bucks |
A friend from school took her own life. We drifted apart (as happens after school, I guess) but I ended up in Cardiff doing my masters and turned out she was there studying Music.
She was one of the country's most outstanding young violin players, so I' was told. I have no musical knowledge at all, a fact she pointed out regularly, given my taste in music!
Anyway, we lived less than a mile apart and she hung herself. Depression caused, principally, by being lonely.
While, rationally, I know it's not my fault, I know I'll always feel guilty for being so close and never even knowing she was there.
Look after your friends. One day, like me, you'll realise one or two aren't there anymore. | | | |
| Suicide prevention on 15:37 - Nov 19 with 1680 views | noggin |
| Suicide prevention on 15:23 - Nov 19 by itfc_bucks |
A friend from school took her own life. We drifted apart (as happens after school, I guess) but I ended up in Cardiff doing my masters and turned out she was there studying Music.
She was one of the country's most outstanding young violin players, so I' was told. I have no musical knowledge at all, a fact she pointed out regularly, given my taste in music!
Anyway, we lived less than a mile apart and she hung herself. Depression caused, principally, by being lonely.
While, rationally, I know it's not my fault, I know I'll always feel guilty for being so close and never even knowing she was there.
Look after your friends. One day, like me, you'll realise one or two aren't there anymore. |
In the days of paper Patient Report Forms (not so long ago) I was at work sorting the previous day's reports, a job we had to do every day. Due to confidentiality laws we were not supposed to read them but being human, after noticing a colleague's name, I did.
My colleagues had been called out to his address after a worried family member had been unable to contact him. They had left after getting no response at his door. The following evening I was called to his address where we found him hanged.
I suffered with feelings of guilt for a long time after that. I should have called him to ask if he was ok but I couldn't because I shouldn't have known about the previous night's call to him. He was almost certainly already dead that previous evening but that was no comfort at the time. I still feel guilty about reading the report but also for not acting on it. | |
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| Suicide prevention on 15:38 - Nov 19 with 1680 views | BlueBadger |
| Suicide prevention on 14:45 - Nov 19 by Guthrum |
One of the most damaging things which has been done over the past few decades has been the erosion of mental health provision.
As an example, in Gloucestershire, the number of beds in residential units has been cut by something approaching 90% since the early 1990s. Some of that was the closure of grim old hospitals, but the capacity has not been replaced.
It is a real effort to get help for people, even in a state of severe crisis. Often the police end up having to pick them up, take them to A&E where they are assessed and released in the early hours of the morning, often far from home and with no means of transport. Or they are turned away, their friends told (as I have been) "Can't you look after them?" People in a deranged or suicidal state, needing 24-hour supervision. Care in the Community, they called it. |
Not just the acute beds, but the community provision and 'soft' services - the decimation of council funded youth centres, drop-in centres, support groups as well a real-terms cut in mental health funding for actual NHS services have created the ongoing crisis of provision and frequently sees people who are a clear and present risk to themselves(and occasionally others) essentially left to their own devices, not to mention allowing 'minor' issues to exacerbate into major ones because the mental health equivalent of 111 or a GP simply isn't there. [Post edited 19 Nov 2021 15:39]
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| Suicide prevention on 17:10 - Nov 19 with 1495 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Suicide prevention on 15:38 - Nov 19 by BlueBadger |
Not just the acute beds, but the community provision and 'soft' services - the decimation of council funded youth centres, drop-in centres, support groups as well a real-terms cut in mental health funding for actual NHS services have created the ongoing crisis of provision and frequently sees people who are a clear and present risk to themselves(and occasionally others) essentially left to their own devices, not to mention allowing 'minor' issues to exacerbate into major ones because the mental health equivalent of 111 or a GP simply isn't there. [Post edited 19 Nov 2021 15:39]
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In certain locations being alert can save people.
https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/rte-ryan-tubridy-show-caller-22202188
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20461928.html
However even then, as the end of the second article mentions, some people are determined to end their life. |  | | |
| Suicide prevention on 17:16 - Nov 19 with 1476 views | textbackup |
| Suicide prevention on 14:49 - Nov 19 by noggin |
I have lost 6 colleagues and friends to suicide in the last few years. All but one of those were men. Sorry for your loss Mullers. [Post edited 19 Nov 2021 14:54]
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6! jesus....
may i ask, a particularly stressful line of work possibly triggering it?
i personally just cant get my head around that being the only way out, those poor people that believe it to be. heartbreaking. |  |
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| Suicide prevention on 17:21 - Nov 19 with 1458 views | footers |
| Suicide prevention on 17:16 - Nov 19 by textbackup |
6! jesus....
may i ask, a particularly stressful line of work possibly triggering it?
i personally just cant get my head around that being the only way out, those poor people that believe it to be. heartbreaking. |
nogs was in the Army and is now a paramedic, iirc...
Doesn't get much more stressful than that! | |
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| Suicide prevention on 17:27 - Nov 19 with 1443 views | textbackup |
| Suicide prevention on 17:21 - Nov 19 by footers |
nogs was in the Army and is now a paramedic, iirc...
Doesn't get much more stressful than that! |
yep, that'll probably explain it then | |
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| Suicide prevention on 20:39 - Nov 19 with 1262 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
I have lost count of the people I have lost from the free festival, @narcho hippy/punk community....none by official suicide, most often drugs or random acts of violence, homelessness or whatever. All descended from hope to the pits of despair because of a world that is obsessed with the individual over community...I believe that more often than not the root of most suicides stems from the same place. Fix the problem not the symptom. |  |
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