| Umm 11:29 - Jul 30 with 6762 views | Guthrum |
That's quite an interview with Jason Dozzell. Lots of rather revealing stuff in there. |  |
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| Umm on 13:23 - Jul 30 with 1793 views | Funge |
| Umm on 12:53 - Jul 30 by Cheltenham_Blue |
“We wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for Evans”
“He keeps us afloat every year”
It was more concerning to me how many were prepared to accept the bear minimum.
These guys are keeping us afloat too, but in a very different manner. |
I'd agree with this.
A lot of Towun fans were prepared to accept mediocrity year after year; I dont blame them for that; the ownership and management of the club stated it, vicariously, over and over again.
Slightly more concerning was the parroted line that criticism of the previous regime, somehow equated to lack of support for the club- but that's another story I suppose.
There's no guarantee of success with this new lot - but its lovely to at least be pointing in the right direction. |  | | |
| Umm on 14:03 - Jul 30 with 1717 views | Guthrum |
| Umm on 13:07 - Jul 30 by Vic |
Really good interview. Kind of confirms what I’d come to believe - our youngesters were good, but to step up into an average team was always going to stunt or stall their development.
Interesting what he said about Skuse and Chambers - 5 yrs ago they could have mentored them better, but not last season. |
Possibly when battling to stay fit and relevant towards the end of a football career, there is less spare capacity to mentor others and it is harder to show such a good technical example on the pitch. | |
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| Umm on 15:21 - Jul 30 with 1653 views | BlueBadger |
| Umm on 11:50 - Jul 30 by Mullet |
Interesting to see him praise Chambers and Skuse over the signings made note recently and lament their age, not their quality. |
Almost as if all those people who kept telling us it was all their fault know nothing. |  |
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| Umm on 15:27 - Jul 30 with 1649 views | unstableblue |
| Umm on 13:18 - Jul 30 by reusersfreekicks |
This interview should be compulsory reading for all "fans" who vilified all our players as lazy with bad attitudes etc. The ownership and management of the club were useless and it's surprìsing, reading this, that we ever got near the top of this league. A gemeration of half decent players wasted by incompetence.
Maybe Cook should have focussed on that rather than laying into the players so readily |
I read that Jason was saying our squad was full of 'past-it' tired older players and young players who lacked direction and energy....
Didn't hear a dig at Cook.
Or did I get it wrong? |  |
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| Umm on 15:27 - Jul 30 with 1644 views | Ryorry |
| Umm on 12:53 - Jul 30 by Cheltenham_Blue |
“We wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for Evans”
“He keeps us afloat every year”
It was more concerning to me how many were prepared to accept the bear minimum.
These guys are keeping us afloat too, but in a very different manner. |
I'd put that down to their fear of the unknown - "better the devil you know" and of course our now infamous strapline "bcwywf" - which is understandable from a psychological point of view.
What they didn't understand was that there comes a point in "stick or twist" when sticking means you're hopelessly glued to the same place on a conveyor belt which is sliding inexorably downwards towards the trap door - at which point "twisting" is a safer bet and actually the less risky of the two options. |  |
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| Umm on 21:33 - Jul 30 with 1519 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Umm on 15:27 - Jul 30 by unstableblue |
I read that Jason was saying our squad was full of 'past-it' tired older players and young players who lacked direction and energy....
Didn't hear a dig at Cook.
Or did I get it wrong? |
No you didn't that is my viewpoint |  | | |
| Umm on 22:13 - Jul 30 with 1456 views | HARRY10 |
| Umm on 12:48 - Jul 30 by RegencyBlue |
Absolutely!
His apologists still seem reluctant to accept it but he was killing the club. |
It's hard to fathom why some of those apologists continued as long as they did when the evidence, both on and off the pitch, was so obvious.
So obvious, that there has been a massive clear out of the squad - and so blatant that the new owners are openly commenting on the sorry state of the stadium.
Caused by years of neglect. Stuff that should have routine maintenance and cleaning. It is going to be a longer haul back than some presently imagine. |  | | |
| Umm on 22:22 - Jul 30 with 1438 views | dominiciawful |
| Umm on 15:27 - Jul 30 by Ryorry |
I'd put that down to their fear of the unknown - "better the devil you know" and of course our now infamous strapline "bcwywf" - which is understandable from a psychological point of view.
What they didn't understand was that there comes a point in "stick or twist" when sticking means you're hopelessly glued to the same place on a conveyor belt which is sliding inexorably downwards towards the trap door - at which point "twisting" is a safer bet and actually the less risky of the two options. |
I've now got Kylie/Steps stuck in my head. |  |
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| Umm on 22:25 - Jul 30 with 1434 views | Churchman |
| Umm on 22:13 - Jul 30 by HARRY10 |
It's hard to fathom why some of those apologists continued as long as they did when the evidence, both on and off the pitch, was so obvious.
So obvious, that there has been a massive clear out of the squad - and so blatant that the new owners are openly commenting on the sorry state of the stadium.
Caused by years of neglect. Stuff that should have routine maintenance and cleaning. It is going to be a longer haul back than some presently imagine. |
It’s going to be a long haul all right. On the upside, when there is so much to do it’s amazing what can be achieved with good planning and a bit of momentum.
They are clearly thinking carefully about stuff as evidenced by comments on the sequencing of stuff like pitch, pitch surround, screens etc etc. Ashton and O’Leary are clearly very detail conscious (something lacking in me/my career!) in addition to being fully in control of what they are looking to do.
It’s all very exciting but I think for the supporters the long haul bit will be how long it’ll take for the team to come together.
One of the striking differences is the imposition of standards and expectations at the club and that however good a player, if they don’t buy in, they’re not wanted. Such a refreshing change. |  | | |
| Umm on 22:47 - Jul 30 with 1410 views | monty_radio |
| Umm on 15:27 - Jul 30 by Ryorry |
I'd put that down to their fear of the unknown - "better the devil you know" and of course our now infamous strapline "bcwywf" - which is understandable from a psychological point of view.
What they didn't understand was that there comes a point in "stick or twist" when sticking means you're hopelessly glued to the same place on a conveyor belt which is sliding inexorably downwards towards the trap door - at which point "twisting" is a safer bet and actually the less risky of the two options. |
Although many, especially in that period between Greyhound's revelation and its confirmation were expressing real fear about the "twist" option. Of course Cook might not be the one pull it off, time will tell. But there seems little doubt that Gamechanger themselves are the real deal. | |
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| Umm on 23:35 - Jul 30 with 1365 views | HARRY10 |
The long haul comment is more than a caution to fans to be patient - as there is far more to do than some imagine, and so it will take time.
However my thought is that time is not of a great concern
To put in metaphorically, we are no longer drifting offshore sitting idly in a rowing boat with just the one broken oar. We've got two oars and rowing steadily to the land.
It is that direction and purpose that counts. | | | |
| What I took from Dozzell's words... on 07:59 - Jul 31 with 1237 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| What I took from Dozzell's words... on 13:07 - Jul 30 by itfcjoe |
It's mad that that is what you take from that |
Dozzell - criticises basically the entire club with only Chambers and Skuse singled out for a positive comment
Unstableblue - boooooo Chambers and Skuse |  |
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| Umm on 08:10 - Jul 31 with 1213 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Umm on 11:35 - Jul 30 by Illinoisblue |
Indeed. I like his honesty even though it reinforces the fact our club was a shambles the last few years . Good luck to him and Andre. |
See also Alan Lee in the KOA podcast interviews.
Edit; Blue Monday TWTD podcast interviews as correctly pointed out by Phil. [Post edited 31 Jul 2021 9:50]
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| Umm on 08:26 - Jul 31 with 1181 views | WD19 |
| Umm on 13:23 - Jul 30 by Funge |
I'd agree with this.
A lot of Towun fans were prepared to accept mediocrity year after year; I dont blame them for that; the ownership and management of the club stated it, vicariously, over and over again.
Slightly more concerning was the parroted line that criticism of the previous regime, somehow equated to lack of support for the club- but that's another story I suppose.
There's no guarantee of success with this new lot - but its lovely to at least be pointing in the right direction. |
It’s also worth mentioning that the measure of the current regime can only ever be (a) where they leave us and (b) who they sell us to. There is zero point in measuring them in the short term because it is easy to spend other people’s money.
That is not a criticism and I like pretty much everything they have done so far. Having a proper structure in place is so refreshing and reinforces that their motives are entirely honourable. But like I say, the comparison with previous regimes can only really be made at the end of this one too. |  | | |
| Umm on 09:41 - Jul 31 with 1137 views | PhilTWTD |
| Umm on 08:10 - Jul 31 by ITFC_Forever |
See also Alan Lee in the KOA podcast interviews.
Edit; Blue Monday TWTD podcast interviews as correctly pointed out by Phil. [Post edited 31 Jul 2021 9:50]
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Ahem! Blue Monday-TWTD interview! |  | | |
| Umm on 09:43 - Jul 31 with 1134 views | Churchman |
| Umm on 08:26 - Jul 31 by WD19 |
It’s also worth mentioning that the measure of the current regime can only ever be (a) where they leave us and (b) who they sell us to. There is zero point in measuring them in the short term because it is easy to spend other people’s money.
That is not a criticism and I like pretty much everything they have done so far. Having a proper structure in place is so refreshing and reinforces that their motives are entirely honourable. But like I say, the comparison with previous regimes can only really be made at the end of this one too. |
While I agree that the ultimate result is everything, I think you can make relative comparisons as you go along.
For example, Evans arrival: manager replaced with a mad bloke, players in, staff cuts, no communication, appointment of Turnstile Clegg.
Gamechanger arrival: manager in/retained, structure in, experienced CEO, Chairman etc in, players in, coaches in, staff in, plans for budgets, pitch, stadium, community in.
It may be the result is catastrophe which is why you are correct about outcomes. However the club was disappearing before my eyes anyway, so I’m happy that we have a chance of something better. [Post edited 31 Jul 2021 10:22]
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| Umm on 09:46 - Jul 31 with 1119 views | NthQldITFC |
| Umm on 15:27 - Jul 30 by Ryorry |
I'd put that down to their fear of the unknown - "better the devil you know" and of course our now infamous strapline "bcwywf" - which is understandable from a psychological point of view.
What they didn't understand was that there comes a point in "stick or twist" when sticking means you're hopelessly glued to the same place on a conveyor belt which is sliding inexorably downwards towards the trap door - at which point "twisting" is a safer bet and actually the less risky of the two options. |
We should have done that last summer. |  |
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| Umm on 09:49 - Jul 31 with 1105 views | ITFC_Forever |
| Umm on 09:41 - Jul 31 by PhilTWTD |
Ahem! Blue Monday-TWTD interview! |
Oops, sorry…. Can’t keep track of who’s who in the podcast wars. | |
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| Umm on 10:02 - Jul 31 with 1067 views | Coastalblue |
| Umm on 09:49 - Jul 31 by ITFC_Forever |
Oops, sorry…. Can’t keep track of who’s who in the podcast wars. |
Yeah they should make it easier to identify for interviews, Blue Monday/TWTD should ask all interviewees what their favourite cheese is, KOA should ask them what their ball grooming regime is. |  |
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| Umm on 10:05 - Jul 31 with 1062 views | BryanPlug |
| Umm on 13:18 - Jul 30 by reusersfreekicks |
This interview should be compulsory reading for all "fans" who vilified all our players as lazy with bad attitudes etc. The ownership and management of the club were useless and it's surprìsing, reading this, that we ever got near the top of this league. A gemeration of half decent players wasted by incompetence.
Maybe Cook should have focussed on that rather than laying into the players so readily |
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| Umm on 11:18 - Jul 31 with 993 views | Dyland |
| Umm on 12:32 - Jul 30 by Darth_Koont |
Certainly disturbing that there was little to no plan for the squad or the first team. It always looked odd from the outside that we signed and loaned a fair number of players and also brought a load of youngsters in too. Then it felt like we just threw them at the team and then threw another lot at the team when that didn’t work. And so on and so on.
If the manager and coaches look clueless and unfocused, no surprise that players and the team as a whole struggled too.
After the disappointment of relegation, it’s pretty inexcusable that we could then screw up League One and effectively waste the player resources and money we did have. All looks remarkably careless. |
Shockingly sh1te from Evans, and yeh right Lambert for being so rubbish. Can't blame him for not walking I guess, a job's a job. I still cringe at the singing on relegation day and Lambert standing there thinking wtf. I left sharpish feeling ambivalent about such vociferous support when the club and team had failed so spectacularly on their side of the bargain. The blame 100% at Evans' door of course, which isn't to say he didn't have a fair crack before he started cutting his losses in a half assed way. Hard to give him much credit though... never got anyone in who knew what they were doing, except McCarthy, and that was never going to be sustainable.
We move on.
COYFB [Post edited 31 Jul 2021 11:19]
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| badabing Fungerbongers on 11:21 - Jul 31 with 988 views | Dyland |
| Umm on 13:23 - Jul 30 by Funge |
I'd agree with this.
A lot of Towun fans were prepared to accept mediocrity year after year; I dont blame them for that; the ownership and management of the club stated it, vicariously, over and over again.
Slightly more concerning was the parroted line that criticism of the previous regime, somehow equated to lack of support for the club- but that's another story I suppose.
There's no guarantee of success with this new lot - but its lovely to at least be pointing in the right direction. |
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| Umm on 11:27 - Jul 31 with 974 views | Dyland |
“I think so. I think he got some unfair criticism from people, relating him to me."
A lot of bizarre criticism indeed. But what do us fans of Andre know, he'll never move up a di... oh.
Shameful really, beyond just knowing piss all about footy. | |
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| Umm on 13:24 - Jul 31 with 891 views | Ryorry |
I love your gift for understatement Guthers, it drives the point home.
“I’ve not seen anybody thrive, I’ve just seen a lot of players going out there defeated, maybe because they were not scoring enough goals. If they went behind they knew they weren’t coming back because of the lack of goals ...
“the environment they were in, ... I think mentally going out on to that pitch for the young players was a grind ...
“No young player was going to thrive in the environment they were in. From top to bottom it was a bit of a mess. No structure, no nothing, no identity.
“To put the pressure on the young lads, they needed help rather than the other way around."
That's a corruscating, damning indictment, despite being conveyed with impressive tact in not naming names. | |
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