| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did 16:07 - Dec 22 with 9169 views | wkj |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:50 - Dec 22 with 2512 views | Darth_Koont |
Haha! Good work!
Think you might have caught a couple too. |  |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:51 - Dec 22 with 2520 views | OldFart71 |
Isn't that the whole idea of paying someone £15,000 + a week that they actual do something for it, rather than turn up, run around a bit and then come out with "It's not good enough how we played today" The Managers job isn't to stand there laughing and joking. Perhaps if Cook and the rest of the rubbish we have had to put up with for what seems an eternity had taken the job a bit more seriously they wouldn't be kicking their heals down the dole office. Not that many of them are short of a few bob after making a pigs ear of a job and then walking off with a wedge paid for by the thousands trudging down to PR in the vein hope of actually seeing a decent performance and three points. |  | | |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:55 - Dec 22 with 2481 views | Garv |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:51 - Dec 22 by OldFart71 |
Isn't that the whole idea of paying someone £15,000 + a week that they actual do something for it, rather than turn up, run around a bit and then come out with "It's not good enough how we played today" The Managers job isn't to stand there laughing and joking. Perhaps if Cook and the rest of the rubbish we have had to put up with for what seems an eternity had taken the job a bit more seriously they wouldn't be kicking their heals down the dole office. Not that many of them are short of a few bob after making a pigs ear of a job and then walking off with a wedge paid for by the thousands trudging down to PR in the vein hope of actually seeing a decent performance and three points. |
Apt username.
What do people like you get out of joining a forum only to spout absolute nonsense? |  |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:57 - Dec 22 with 2464 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:33 - Dec 22 by Wakh |
That's it. Yeah we signed him too. |
There's a challenge. Name me a donkey we didn't sign! |  |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:58 - Dec 22 with 2460 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:57 - Dec 22 by Nthsuffolkblue |
There's a challenge. Name me a donkey we didn't sign! |
Heskey.... |  |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 18:00 - Dec 22 with 2455 views | BlueBadger |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:55 - Dec 22 by Garv |
Apt username.
What do people like you get out of joining a forum only to spout absolute nonsense? |
In all fairness, he's got a point. If any of our previous three managers had actually bothered coaching competently we might not be in half the mess we are now.
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 18:00 - Dec 22 with 2450 views | hoppy |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:57 - Dec 22 by Nthsuffolkblue |
There's a challenge. Name me a donkey we didn't sign! |
Eeyore?
Tony Adams? |  |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 18:00 - Dec 22 with 2453 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:58 - Dec 22 by Ewan_Oozami |
Heskey.... |
A donkey we didn't sign ... with 62 England caps while we stagnated in the Championship. (OK, a little harsh as we were Premier League and very good too for a couple of the seasons he appeared for England in.) | |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 18:07 - Dec 22 with 2428 views | clive_baker |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:51 - Dec 22 by OldFart71 |
Isn't that the whole idea of paying someone £15,000 + a week that they actual do something for it, rather than turn up, run around a bit and then come out with "It's not good enough how we played today" The Managers job isn't to stand there laughing and joking. Perhaps if Cook and the rest of the rubbish we have had to put up with for what seems an eternity had taken the job a bit more seriously they wouldn't be kicking their heals down the dole office. Not that many of them are short of a few bob after making a pigs ear of a job and then walking off with a wedge paid for by the thousands trudging down to PR in the vein hope of actually seeing a decent performance and three points. |
I think Cook’s problem was as much those he brought in around him. I heard some hideous feedback on one of them in particular. It seemed like he built a support team of inexperienced scouse mates as much as anything else.
Can’t read anything into a short clip like that but the refreshing thing about KM is as much the arrival of his wider team too, like Pert, and another one perhaps imminent. Between the 2 or 3 of them they’ll raise the bar, bring higher standards and a best in class approach to training, which we should see play through on match days. Huge step up in that respect.
What remains to be seen for me is how KM makes the transition from Coach to manager. I don’t think many can dispute he’s clearly a very well qualified coach. I dare say he’s putting on better sessions than a Mick McCarthy ever did, or his team, but management is more than that. It’s an arm around a shoulder, it’s having the soft skills to pick players up when there down and to keep them grounded if they’re getting too high. It’s the discretionary day off or phone call when it’s needed. Creating a squad of players that want to run through brick walls to get the 3 points. Similar challenges to any other industry in that respect, aside from the technical nous. That for me is the bit I’m interested to see, and here’s hoping he takes to it. |  |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 18:20 - Dec 22 with 2380 views | 3_5_2 |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 16:44 - Dec 22 by StokieBlue |
Pretty sure you can make out a Man Utd top under his town one and he's mouthing the words "I was at a big club" as well I think.
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Lambert should have mentioned he was at a big club, it may have helped |  |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 22:24 - Dec 22 with 2232 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:41 - Dec 22 by pointofblue |
Loved watching the training video - the amount of impact he's having, constantly communicating with the players, telling them what he expects. It does feel different to Cook's training videos, I have to admit. |
There's no cup of tea for a start. |  |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 10:34 - Dec 23 with 2041 views | Dubtractor |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 18:07 - Dec 22 by clive_baker |
I think Cook’s problem was as much those he brought in around him. I heard some hideous feedback on one of them in particular. It seemed like he built a support team of inexperienced scouse mates as much as anything else.
Can’t read anything into a short clip like that but the refreshing thing about KM is as much the arrival of his wider team too, like Pert, and another one perhaps imminent. Between the 2 or 3 of them they’ll raise the bar, bring higher standards and a best in class approach to training, which we should see play through on match days. Huge step up in that respect.
What remains to be seen for me is how KM makes the transition from Coach to manager. I don’t think many can dispute he’s clearly a very well qualified coach. I dare say he’s putting on better sessions than a Mick McCarthy ever did, or his team, but management is more than that. It’s an arm around a shoulder, it’s having the soft skills to pick players up when there down and to keep them grounded if they’re getting too high. It’s the discretionary day off or phone call when it’s needed. Creating a squad of players that want to run through brick walls to get the 3 points. Similar challenges to any other industry in that respect, aside from the technical nous. That for me is the bit I’m interested to see, and here’s hoping he takes to it. |
It's all speculation, and we'll never know the real circumstances, but the team the Cook built around him always looked really weak and its hard to ignore the suggestion of jobs for his mates.
If we'd been winning games then none of that matters, but when you add in our overall poor record under him then questions will obviously get asked. |  |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 11:45 - Dec 23 with 1958 views | HighgateBlue |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 17:31 - Dec 22 by itfcjoe |
You can see from that video it’s night and day the difference |
I was always concerned at the make-up of Cook's coaching staff - the lack of Leam Richardson, the lack of a defensive coach, the inexperience, the apparent jobs-for-the-boys vibe.
But in fairness, I don't recall anyone on here actually saying that they'd seen a training session and X, Y and Z was done wrong, or not done at all. Purely out of interest, did you have concerns of that kind at the time? |  | | |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 12:37 - Dec 23 with 1885 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 11:45 - Dec 23 by HighgateBlue |
I was always concerned at the make-up of Cook's coaching staff - the lack of Leam Richardson, the lack of a defensive coach, the inexperience, the apparent jobs-for-the-boys vibe.
But in fairness, I don't recall anyone on here actually saying that they'd seen a training session and X, Y and Z was done wrong, or not done at all. Purely out of interest, did you have concerns of that kind at the time? |
Questions were raised over the quality of the coaches and the lack of an assistant manager repeatedly by many.
Not aware of anyone watching training let alone anyone qualified to comment on it.
Cook clearly tried to present a relaxed atmosphere on clips. The sessions always looked rather busy to me. We had a huge squad when Cook took over and, although he "demolished" it, I am not sure he trimmed the size as much as was needed. | |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 13:08 - Dec 23 with 1831 views | Garv |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 10:34 - Dec 23 by Dubtractor |
It's all speculation, and we'll never know the real circumstances, but the team the Cook built around him always looked really weak and its hard to ignore the suggestion of jobs for his mates.
If we'd been winning games then none of that matters, but when you add in our overall poor record under him then questions will obviously get asked. |
I read that Cook didn't know Jeffers before employing him, so that would contradict jobs for the boys. | |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 13:18 - Dec 23 with 1810 views | itfcjoe |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 11:45 - Dec 23 by HighgateBlue |
I was always concerned at the make-up of Cook's coaching staff - the lack of Leam Richardson, the lack of a defensive coach, the inexperience, the apparent jobs-for-the-boys vibe.
But in fairness, I don't recall anyone on here actually saying that they'd seen a training session and X, Y and Z was done wrong, or not done at all. Purely out of interest, did you have concerns of that kind at the time? |
My comment was very much tongue in cheek, I had heard the sessions this year was decent and I’m doing a job next to TG and always sounded in good spirits and as though everyone was getting on and enjoying themselves which is part of the battle
I think Roberts may have struggled, but Jeffers was an experienced coach |  |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 14:32 - Dec 23 with 1703 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 16:44 - Dec 22 by Fixed_It |
He can do that whistling with the fingers thing that all good coaches (and shepherds) can do. I'm a rubbish coach and shepherd. |
Buy him a whistle |  | | |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 18:48 - Dec 23 with 1568 views | HighgateBlue |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 13:18 - Dec 23 by itfcjoe |
My comment was very much tongue in cheek, I had heard the sessions this year was decent and I’m doing a job next to TG and always sounded in good spirits and as though everyone was getting on and enjoying themselves which is part of the battle
I think Roberts may have struggled, but Jeffers was an experienced coach |
Cheers mate, fair enough, thanks for your insight. | | | |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 20:37 - Dec 23 with 1530 views | DavoIPB |
Was really surprised by other training videos I've seen of Ipswich. They seem to just be jogging. Not really putting effort in and doing same drills. Can see he is working them really hard. Chaplin is the only one who looks relaxed and enjoying it.
He does need to smile a bit more though. | | | |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 07:25 - Dec 24 with 1381 views | BondiBlue |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 18:07 - Dec 22 by clive_baker |
I think Cook’s problem was as much those he brought in around him. I heard some hideous feedback on one of them in particular. It seemed like he built a support team of inexperienced scouse mates as much as anything else.
Can’t read anything into a short clip like that but the refreshing thing about KM is as much the arrival of his wider team too, like Pert, and another one perhaps imminent. Between the 2 or 3 of them they’ll raise the bar, bring higher standards and a best in class approach to training, which we should see play through on match days. Huge step up in that respect.
What remains to be seen for me is how KM makes the transition from Coach to manager. I don’t think many can dispute he’s clearly a very well qualified coach. I dare say he’s putting on better sessions than a Mick McCarthy ever did, or his team, but management is more than that. It’s an arm around a shoulder, it’s having the soft skills to pick players up when there down and to keep them grounded if they’re getting too high. It’s the discretionary day off or phone call when it’s needed. Creating a squad of players that want to run through brick walls to get the 3 points. Similar challenges to any other industry in that respect, aside from the technical nous. That for me is the bit I’m interested to see, and here’s hoping he takes to it. |
Your point about management skills is a good one. I wonder if that is reflected in the different job descriptions of head coaches and managers, or if a head coach is expected to be a manager but minus the hassle of running recruitment. If a head coach isn't expected to do the man-management, i wonder who is. DoF? Head of performance? Assistant manager? It would make sense to me that the guy who tells you whether or not you're playing on a saturday should be the guy who puts an arm around your shoulder when you're not but i know nothing about how professional football clubs are run. | |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 07:47 - Dec 24 with 1370 views | GeoffSentence |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 16:44 - Dec 22 by Fixed_It |
He can do that whistling with the fingers thing that all good coaches (and shepherds) can do. I'm a rubbish coach and shepherd. |
I am now imagining him on the touchline shouting 'come by, come by' and 'away' |  |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 09:43 - Dec 24 with 1306 views | FightingEssex |
Although Cook was a disaster here I don’t think you could say he wasn’t hard working, he just made a rod for his own back with the bomb squad myth and he relied too much on mates in the game. He was entirely dedicated to the job though, I can’t fault that part and he’ll be back and do well again with another club. |  |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 10:06 - Dec 24 with 1284 views | Deano69 |
| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 16:14 - Dec 22 by BlueBlood90 |
I've also noticed this. He doesn't exactly ooze personality from first viewings. |
Good.
Hopefully they will get on with the job in hand, football, winning and getting out of this poxy league |  |
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 01:17 - Dec 25 with 1149 views | Epiphone |
Compared to the majority of complacent managers we’ve had in recent years a young,motivated coach willing to push our bunch of underachievers out of their comfort zone seems like a breath of fresh air.Then there’s that nagging voice in the back of my head with…….”yeah,but Paul Hurst”.Please don’t let us go through that false dawn again!! [Post edited 25 Dec 2021 1:19]
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| McKenna is clearly working them harder than Cook and the kitman ever did on 01:36 - Dec 25 with 1141 views | Kieran_Knows |
I find the whole ‘kitman’ jibe quite frustrating towards Craney. I appreciate in the past he’s said it’s a role he enjoys, but from what I heard he was a well liked coach who the players really enjoyed working with.
Whilst the thread has taken a tangent about Cooks coaches, again, I think Roberts was perhaps a bit chucked in at the deep end. Again, I’d heard he was someone Cook bought with him to tie him over to the summer so he could then appoint Richardson as AM, with Roberts moving more in to an analyst style role (sit in the stands type coach). |  |
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