| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 21:54 - Nov 4 with 2368 views | ITFC_84 |
𤎠This is an atrocious championship this season isnât it. |  | | |  |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 04:59 - Nov 5 with 519 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 00:49 - Nov 5 by Ryorry |
Some of the arrogance on this thread is gobsmacking. |
Itâs really not arrogance, just facts, the division is not good. We have stability at helm and one of the most expensive championship squads of all time. Town have to deliver. |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 05:04 - Nov 5 with 498 views | Chrisd |
Because they win games consistently. Letâs not forget that Charlton and Preston have beaten us already. After this amount of games you deserve to be where you find yourself in the league. The fact we sit mid table is more a reflection of how inconsistent we have been. Weâve flattered to deceive in-between some decent performances. Yes, we might belittle those clubs youâve highlighted, but they are all doing a better job of it than we are at this point in time and credit to them. | |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 06:11 - Nov 5 with 454 views | ernie |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 21:55 - Nov 4 by TresBonne |
It really is, which is making it even more fcking frustrating that we can't win games like tonight. We could be walking this along with Cov with the talent we've got. |
Our âtalentâ is not as good as you think it is. | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 06:31 - Nov 5 with 433 views | Blue_Heath |
Bang average but very competitive, we really should be ripping it up in this league with the squad we have. | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:11 - Nov 5 with 401 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 21:58 - Nov 4 by ITFC_84 |
Canât help but think that weâre just going to have to keep in touch until January, and then massively go for it in the window. |
We massively went for it in the summer!
That went well.
McAteer, Akpom, Azon, etcâŚ. Good enough? |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:15 - Nov 5 with 395 views | ITFCSG |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 06:31 - Nov 5 by Blue_Heath |
Bang average but very competitive, we really should be ripping it up in this league with the squad we have. |
Precisely, and yet plenty of people are still finding excuses for the generally poor performances so far. As I mentioned before âgellingâ is absolute bs if you use Sunderland or Leeds the division above as a measure. Also stop comparing us with Leicester and Saints this season, they may be parachute clubs but they are financial basket cases who canât spend and did not replace their best players who left in the summer. Might as well compare us with Sheff Utd then.
We have signed players that look good on paper so far but are either played out of position or for some reason havenât really been able to show their potential. The lack of urgency and slow build up play is shocking, why are players passing sideways and back ways even when we need a goal in stoppage time? Itâs really a frustrating watch at times, donât blame the crowd and atmosphere when thereâs little to get all hyped out watching paint dry | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:20 - Nov 5 with 380 views | Swansea_Blue |
Footballâs changed. Teams are sitting deeper, being very compact and then getting the ball forward more directly and quicker when they have a turnover. And then make their chances count. Teams like Charlton and Millwall are doing that well. I havenât seen Stoke yet, but I suspect theyâre similar. |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:28 - Nov 5 with 366 views | Sharkey |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:20 - Nov 5 by Swansea_Blue |
Footballâs changed. Teams are sitting deeper, being very compact and then getting the ball forward more directly and quicker when they have a turnover. And then make their chances count. Teams like Charlton and Millwall are doing that well. I havenât seen Stoke yet, but I suspect theyâre similar. |
See Stoke's third goal last night. I think 'pegged it' is the technical term for what the full-back did. |  | | |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:36 - Nov 5 with 353 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 07:28 - Nov 5 by Sharkey |
See Stoke's third goal last night. I think 'pegged it' is the technical term for what the full-back did. |
Getting the ball forward quickly by the looks of it. Some nice moves there, although also some comedy defending.
And Azon not the only one missing a free header. Greg Leighâs may have been easier đ | |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 08:36 - Nov 5 with 304 views | wkj |
I don't know much about Stoke or Charlton, but it is very clear that Milwall and Preston have been slowly building a strong setup over the last few seasons. In my opinion, there are no shocks to see those teams up there, or Coventry looking like a powerhouse [Post edited 5 Nov 11:32]
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 10:24 - Nov 5 with 258 views | OldFart71 |
One thing I would be concerned about is that we have players on loan with clauses to buy if we are promoted and I haven't seen enough from any of them to suggest that they are good enough for the Premier league. In which case we would be spending many millions on players that would be of little use. Therefore is it in our best interests to be promoted this season ? | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 10:30 - Nov 5 with 255 views | mellowblue |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 21:56 - Nov 4 by TractorWood |
Watford were dreadful imo. So very poor. |
Their 10 was a decent player, 25 also. Can't be that bad to beat Boro and get a draw from us. | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 10:35 - Nov 5 with 254 views | itfcsuth |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 21:56 - Nov 4 by bournemouthblue |
Watford look a better side than several of them for my money |
Say that but we've played Charlton and Preston and they both did a job on us, both beat us.
Watford were woeful. |  | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 10:38 - Nov 5 with 245 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 00:46 - Nov 5 by Churchman |
But wanting McKenna to stay even if we fail to get promoted is not necessarily accepting failure any more than it was for Leeds under Farke. [Post edited 5 Nov 0:58]
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Not really comparable as Farke took over leeds after relegation, he hadnt purchased most of leeds players himself during the previous season. |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 10:38 - Nov 5 with 242 views | itfcsuth |
Because they have been better than us this season, it's 14 games in, not 4, the division is taking shape - and we are where we deserve to be currently - midtable.
The standard looks poor, but we've played our part in being poor.
It would be a huge failure not to achieve automatic promotion with our investment, to not achieve top 6 would be catastrophic.
But will ultimately come back to the same point, massive investment in the squad, but have we really built a high quality well balanced squad - I don't think so. [Post edited 5 Nov 11:11]
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 10:41 - Nov 5 with 236 views | Radlett_blue |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 21:58 - Nov 4 by ITFC_84 |
Canât help but think that weâre just going to have to keep in touch until January, and then massively go for it in the window. |
Really? On the back of the huge money we have spent?
ÂŁ17m for Walle,.
ÂŁ12m for McAteer.
Substantial loan fees & wages for Akpom & Azon.
These guys have failed to find the net in 16 starts & 17 sub appearances.
Don't think insufficient money is the issue. |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 10:45 - Nov 5 with 225 views | itfcsuth |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 21:58 - Nov 4 by ITFC_84 |
Canât help but think that weâre just going to have to keep in touch until January, and then massively go for it in the window. |
No, absolutely not, let's not massively go it. Powers that be have proven they can't handle and manage the big deals.
Wouldn't trust Ashton with another penny in the transfer market. | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 10:51 - Nov 5 with 207 views | Smoresy |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 10:38 - Nov 5 by itfcsuth |
Because they have been better than us this season, it's 14 games in, not 4, the division is taking shape - and we are where we deserve to be currently - midtable.
The standard looks poor, but we've played our part in being poor.
It would be a huge failure not to achieve automatic promotion with our investment, to not achieve top 6 would be catastrophic.
But will ultimately come back to the same point, massive investment in the squad, but have we really built a high quality well balanced squad - I don't think so. [Post edited 5 Nov 11:11]
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Do you mean what you write in your third sentence? Not the first part, assume you intended to include "not" in there. Do you honestly think finishing 2nd would be catastrophic? Or achieving promotion through the playoffs? That's hyperbolic in the extreme isn't it? Sorry for the volume of question marks. | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 10:53 - Nov 5 with 199 views | MattinLondon |
Weâre not in the top six because currently weâre nowhere near good enough.
We play at walking pace, make far too many mistakes at the back and do not take our chances.
Up the tempo, play a much more settled side and hope that it clicks. |  | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 11:11 - Nov 5 with 163 views | itfcsuth |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 10:51 - Nov 5 by Smoresy |
Do you mean what you write in your third sentence? Not the first part, assume you intended to include "not" in there. Do you honestly think finishing 2nd would be catastrophic? Or achieving promotion through the playoffs? That's hyperbolic in the extreme isn't it? Sorry for the volume of question marks. |
No missed a word out sorry (have edited now)
Mean not achieving top 2 would be a failure, but not even achieving a play off spot would catastrophic. [Post edited 5 Nov 11:11]
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 11:19 - Nov 5 with 139 views | sotd78 |
Is it atrocious because no one is running away with it? Or is it actually very good because everyone can compete? It's interesting which side of the coin you look at!
Hmmm? |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 11:26 - Nov 5 with 129 views | Pinewoodblue |
Currently we do not deserve to be any higher than tenth in the table.
We lost to Preston & Charlton had we won those games we would be above them in the table.
We could only draw with Birmingham & Bristol City, again had we won we would be above them in the table.
The table doesnât lie.
Hopefully KMc will get things sorted and soon. |  |
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| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 11:52 - Nov 5 with 87 views | Funge |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 11:11 - Nov 5 by itfcsuth |
No missed a word out sorry (have edited now)
Mean not achieving top 2 would be a failure, but not even achieving a play off spot would catastrophic. [Post edited 5 Nov 11:11]
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Right.
We've one of the most expensive squads ever assembled at this level (perhaps the most expensive? I don't know...) - not making top 2 would be a very big underachievement; failing to make the playoffs would be an absolute and utter shambles.
Over a quarter of the way into the season, and we have many talented players, but no real team.
The further into this season we get, the less happy I am about the 'pass' that I (and many others) gave this team in the PL last year. 2025 has been a pretty bad year for football. |  | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 12:27 - Nov 5 with 48 views | Sharkey |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 11:19 - Nov 5 by sotd78 |
Is it atrocious because no one is running away with it? Or is it actually very good because everyone can compete? It's interesting which side of the coin you look at!
Hmmm? |
Compared with the situation in L1 and L2, Coventry are 'running away with it', and their goal difference is truly exceptional. Other than that, the leagues all look pretty much the same in terms of points spread. | | | |
| Good lord. How the hell are Stoke, Millwall, Charlton and Preston all top 6 on 12:29 - Nov 5 with 43 views | algy |
23-24 was such a special achievement, achieving promotion in our first season back in the Champ but one thing that made it extra special was that we were competing so well against the clubs with trampoline payments from the PL. Trampoline payments are anti-competitive and distort the division. So it's great when those that get them fail to make the most of them. Rather see any of the top 6 go up than Leics or Soton. Just hope KM and MA can use our anti-competitive funding to bring us success. [Post edited 5 Nov 12:30]
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