| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement 09:31 - Sep 16 with 73209 views | Barneycurley |
and not be considered a racist? |  |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 14:37 - Sep 17 with 3909 views | Herbivore |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 14:35 - Sep 17 by ROKERITE |
Dr Sowell is ninety now but thankfully is far from being the only black conservative American. Walter E Williams, Robert L. Woodson, Shelby Steele. Larry Elder and many others share his non-left view of the world. I just happen to believe Dr Sowell is an extremely wise man and being black is more difficult to dismiss by the colour obsessed left when he says it as he sees it. Of course Dr Sowell and the others I have named receive the normal "Uncle Tom" insults but they're strong enough to take them. There is actually some hope that there'll be an increase in the black Republican vote as more recognise Trump has done far more for African-Americans than most previous Presidents and certainly more than Obama. Many are realising The Democratic Party takes the black vote for granted and it is in cities the Democrats have run for fifty-plus years that the greatest poverty and squalor exists. The increasingly senile-dementia suffering Joe Biden opened a few eyes when he told black voters they weren't black if they voted for Trump. Now there is true racism exposed; fit in the box the white man says you must, disgusting. |
Wow. And you were lecturing Spruce on reality earlier. |  |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 14:45 - Sep 17 with 3890 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 14:35 - Sep 17 by ROKERITE |
Dr Sowell is ninety now but thankfully is far from being the only black conservative American. Walter E Williams, Robert L. Woodson, Shelby Steele. Larry Elder and many others share his non-left view of the world. I just happen to believe Dr Sowell is an extremely wise man and being black is more difficult to dismiss by the colour obsessed left when he says it as he sees it. Of course Dr Sowell and the others I have named receive the normal "Uncle Tom" insults but they're strong enough to take them. There is actually some hope that there'll be an increase in the black Republican vote as more recognise Trump has done far more for African-Americans than most previous Presidents and certainly more than Obama. Many are realising The Democratic Party takes the black vote for granted and it is in cities the Democrats have run for fifty-plus years that the greatest poverty and squalor exists. The increasingly senile-dementia suffering Joe Biden opened a few eyes when he told black voters they weren't black if they voted for Trump. Now there is true racism exposed; fit in the box the white man says you must, disgusting. |
Oh I get it now. You're one of those Trump cultists.
"Trump has done far more for African-Americans than most previous Presidents"
Examples please.
According to cencus data here are the ten poorest states in the nation. Have a guess at what they have in common...
2020:
Mississippi
New Mexico
Louisiana
West Virginia
Alabama
Kentucky
South Carolina
Arkansas
Tennessee
North Carolina
As for Biden's 'dementia' comment, all I have to say to that is person, woman, man, camera, TV. [Post edited 17 Sep 2020 14:53]
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 14:47 - Sep 17 with 3890 views | LankHenners |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 14:35 - Sep 17 by ROKERITE |
Dr Sowell is ninety now but thankfully is far from being the only black conservative American. Walter E Williams, Robert L. Woodson, Shelby Steele. Larry Elder and many others share his non-left view of the world. I just happen to believe Dr Sowell is an extremely wise man and being black is more difficult to dismiss by the colour obsessed left when he says it as he sees it. Of course Dr Sowell and the others I have named receive the normal "Uncle Tom" insults but they're strong enough to take them. There is actually some hope that there'll be an increase in the black Republican vote as more recognise Trump has done far more for African-Americans than most previous Presidents and certainly more than Obama. Many are realising The Democratic Party takes the black vote for granted and it is in cities the Democrats have run for fifty-plus years that the greatest poverty and squalor exists. The increasingly senile-dementia suffering Joe Biden opened a few eyes when he told black voters they weren't black if they voted for Trump. Now there is true racism exposed; fit in the box the white man says you must, disgusting. |
You clearly seem to be claiming you know better than others because you've read up on the matter, but if you're only reading conservative and libertarian voices, then you're not well read, you're just finding voices you agree with and hiding behind the fact they're black to go 'well if they say it it must be true', which ironically is what you're tacitly accusing others of doing.
For all your bluster about 'white liberals being worse than white conservatives' to paraphrase the Malcom X quote that white conservatives love to remove from context and bang the drum for, you'll find, if you bother to look, that white people propping up harmful black voices is worse than any indifference or assumed alliance by liberal people. |  |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 14:50 - Sep 17 with 3880 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 14:35 - Sep 17 by ROKERITE |
Dr Sowell is ninety now but thankfully is far from being the only black conservative American. Walter E Williams, Robert L. Woodson, Shelby Steele. Larry Elder and many others share his non-left view of the world. I just happen to believe Dr Sowell is an extremely wise man and being black is more difficult to dismiss by the colour obsessed left when he says it as he sees it. Of course Dr Sowell and the others I have named receive the normal "Uncle Tom" insults but they're strong enough to take them. There is actually some hope that there'll be an increase in the black Republican vote as more recognise Trump has done far more for African-Americans than most previous Presidents and certainly more than Obama. Many are realising The Democratic Party takes the black vote for granted and it is in cities the Democrats have run for fifty-plus years that the greatest poverty and squalor exists. The increasingly senile-dementia suffering Joe Biden opened a few eyes when he told black voters they weren't black if they voted for Trump. Now there is true racism exposed; fit in the box the white man says you must, disgusting. |
‘Trump has done far more for African-Americans than most previous Presidents and certainly more than Obama.’
There aren’t many posts worthy of the good old fashioned TWTD ROFLcopter but this is one of them  🚠|  |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 14:50 - Sep 17 with 3873 views | StokieBlue |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 13:10 - Sep 17 by hampstead_blue |
It's only political because you on the left want to make it so.
I'd envisage so many more decent people joining if it were not stuffed full of angry mobs screaming at the Police calling for defunding, breaking the system, and the other common room 'angry mob' slogans you cling onto.
Herbivore summed it up. The goal is to dismantle capitalism and the establishment.
Well Darth, I've made the point earlier than it is those things which feed and clothe you.
Change them yes.
The more you clammer for their destruction the more you alienate yourself with the majority of the UK's population.
It's incredibly selfish and shows the left to be so narrow minded and hateful. You commandeer the cause for your own naive ideals.
If it were clear of politics, peaceful, showed due respect for the Police and authorities then more would join and something would get done.
Sadly, your side have pocketed it which is why so many people are removing the badge and disowning themselves.
Can you not see the damage you are doing to the cause?
BLM is a cause for everyone. NOT the left. You are destroying it's message. |
How can something that is structurally part of society not be something that's political?
You have accidentally hit upon a small nugget of truth within your rantings in that some of the slogans used create an element of hostility because they don't really convey what the movement actually wants.
"Defund the police" is probably the primary offender here in that it sounds pretty awful to many people but it doesn't really convey what the majority want in a clear way. When you actually explain the position to people they tend to become less hostile to it and can see the logic. The issue is that many people won't dig into the actual meaning/policy and will instead think it simply means get rid of the police which is an extreme view not held by the majority.
This is something that will be resolved over time if people are willing to look at the actual meaning rather than the knee-jerk interpretation of such slogans.
Ranting about "the left" isn't going to resolve anything and it's hard to see how that is any different to what you are accusing them of doing.
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:02 - Sep 17 with 3822 views | ROKERITE |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 14:47 - Sep 17 by LankHenners |
You clearly seem to be claiming you know better than others because you've read up on the matter, but if you're only reading conservative and libertarian voices, then you're not well read, you're just finding voices you agree with and hiding behind the fact they're black to go 'well if they say it it must be true', which ironically is what you're tacitly accusing others of doing.
For all your bluster about 'white liberals being worse than white conservatives' to paraphrase the Malcom X quote that white conservatives love to remove from context and bang the drum for, you'll find, if you bother to look, that white people propping up harmful black voices is worse than any indifference or assumed alliance by liberal people. |
I certainly agree with you about white people propping up harmful black voices. Those race-baiters that Booker T Washington was warning about over a century ago. Those people making a very good living by fanning the flames of race hate. White or black they deserve utter condemnation but that's The Democratic Party in The States and much of Labour here for you. |  | | |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:05 - Sep 17 with 3808 views | Herbivore |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:02 - Sep 17 by ROKERITE |
I certainly agree with you about white people propping up harmful black voices. Those race-baiters that Booker T Washington was warning about over a century ago. Those people making a very good living by fanning the flames of race hate. White or black they deserve utter condemnation but that's The Democratic Party in The States and much of Labour here for you. |
The sad thing is I don't think you're even trolling, I think you genuinely believe the utter b0llocks you're spouting. | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:06 - Sep 17 with 3802 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:02 - Sep 17 by ROKERITE |
I certainly agree with you about white people propping up harmful black voices. Those race-baiters that Booker T Washington was warning about over a century ago. Those people making a very good living by fanning the flames of race hate. White or black they deserve utter condemnation but that's The Democratic Party in The States and much of Labour here for you. |
Lol ok Q.
Go get yourself a pizza. | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:10 - Sep 17 with 3789 views | Ryorry |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 13:50 - Sep 17 by itfcjoe |
99% of people complaining won't have even watched it anyway - it's just Mr & Mrs Outrage from the local Facebook group |
Local fb groups are notoriously redneck, and to be swerved like the plague - I'd certainly never use that platform for such discussion.
Totally untrue to say that "99% of people complaining won't even have watched it anyway" - every single one of the hundreds I read on twitter clearly had. Many more watched it later either on catch-up or via recordings, as I'd have thought would be obvious.
I agree it wasn't just "political" tho - as I said in response to some of the naysayers on the evening in question - "It wasn't just political, it was also raising awareness re environment, change, unity, caring & did a good job" (3 'likes'). |  |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:28 - Sep 17 with 3747 views | ROKERITE |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 14:13 - Sep 17 by eireblue |
When was the US or U.K. run by a hard left government?
Why is there a BLM movement if everything is fine?
Why is there a XR movement if everything is fine? |
When was The UK run by a hard-right government? Johnson's is simply a continuation of the labour-lite blob we've had since Major.
Why is there a BLM movement? Because there are evil, violent people and a lot of sheep who follow without knowing many of the facts.
Why is there an XR movement? Because a lot of self-entitled fools like disrupting the lives of ordinary hard-working people and are advocating measures which would see tens of millions plunged into poverty were they to be enacted. Unfortunately Johnson kowtows to them because his latest flame is a green. People like Johnson and her won't suffer the effects of the green tyranny. With Covid-19 having devastated the economy the green plans already mooted would tip it over the edge never mind the desires of the eco -terrorists in XR. | | | |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:29 - Sep 17 with 3742 views | DecageBruce |
I have made my comment on the other BLM thread which appeared to be well received so I am not here to cut of my nose (as I have a history of killing threads through seeming boring/non related comments) however I can't help myself so....
- I support (obviously) the BLM message and what it represents
- Do I agree with every idea that has been raised under the same banner? No. I think that some have been misrepresented and are harmful to the cause as it has dirtied the water (imho).
- Is it/should it be political? Yes, of course it should.
- Does it being political make it easier? No
What I see though is that this forum, as much as I enjoy it, is a microcosm of society. There are obviously different views on this subject but there are some very strong (louder) people here who have aligned or misaligned poltical and social views. This leads to a constant disagreement from page 3 of most threads. Each side sticking to their ideals and not being willing to engage with each other. 'The right' give their view and provide what they believe is evidence (Daily Mail links  ) and tbf do continue to offer their thoughts. 'The left' will (rightly so in most cases) take these opinions to task however in the vast majority of cases are then the first to commence personal attacks, continued jibes and dilute any 'upper hand' that they may have.
I agree that it is hard to change peoples minds, especially when they are 'wrong', and there is an argument that a football forum isn't the place to do it.
I would ask the 'right' posters here, what is it that you think would work? Also, why does the BLM movement make you so defensive?
I would ask the 'left', outside of TWTD, is there anything that you do/can to to make a real change in the real world?
Having had some challenging times but now being in a position of comfort I chose to engage and volunteer my time to a charity to support children. Have I seen the effects of racism on our young people? Yes. Have I seen the effects of austerity and cut backs in fundings by the current Gvt? Yes. Have I been involved with the charity (and the NHS) when labour have been in power and seen the additional funding mismanaged and pissed up the wall? Yes.
Until everyone is willing to accept the flaws in their own beliefs and ideologies and that there is no one size fits all fix then we will continue this cycle of puff and blunder but little action as we all get distracted by the additional noise of arguments. |  | | |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:30 - Sep 17 with 3730 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:28 - Sep 17 by ROKERITE |
When was The UK run by a hard-right government? Johnson's is simply a continuation of the labour-lite blob we've had since Major.
Why is there a BLM movement? Because there are evil, violent people and a lot of sheep who follow without knowing many of the facts.
Why is there an XR movement? Because a lot of self-entitled fools like disrupting the lives of ordinary hard-working people and are advocating measures which would see tens of millions plunged into poverty were they to be enacted. Unfortunately Johnson kowtows to them because his latest flame is a green. People like Johnson and her won't suffer the effects of the green tyranny. With Covid-19 having devastated the economy the green plans already mooted would tip it over the edge never mind the desires of the eco -terrorists in XR. |
Lol ok Alex Jones.
Wipe your chin and go have a lie down.
We get it, in your world up is down, wet is dry, hot is cold, in is out. Every day a National Opposites Day.
I'll have a go following your rules. You're a very intelligent and enlightened individual who should absolutely be listened to with respect and you are more than welcome here. [Post edited 17 Sep 2020 15:34]
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:33 - Sep 17 with 3717 views | Herbivore |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:28 - Sep 17 by ROKERITE |
When was The UK run by a hard-right government? Johnson's is simply a continuation of the labour-lite blob we've had since Major.
Why is there a BLM movement? Because there are evil, violent people and a lot of sheep who follow without knowing many of the facts.
Why is there an XR movement? Because a lot of self-entitled fools like disrupting the lives of ordinary hard-working people and are advocating measures which would see tens of millions plunged into poverty were they to be enacted. Unfortunately Johnson kowtows to them because his latest flame is a green. People like Johnson and her won't suffer the effects of the green tyranny. With Covid-19 having devastated the economy the green plans already mooted would tip it over the edge never mind the desires of the eco -terrorists in XR. |
Okay, boomer. | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:38 - Sep 17 with 3701 views | Darth_Koont |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:28 - Sep 17 by ROKERITE |
When was The UK run by a hard-right government? Johnson's is simply a continuation of the labour-lite blob we've had since Major.
Why is there a BLM movement? Because there are evil, violent people and a lot of sheep who follow without knowing many of the facts.
Why is there an XR movement? Because a lot of self-entitled fools like disrupting the lives of ordinary hard-working people and are advocating measures which would see tens of millions plunged into poverty were they to be enacted. Unfortunately Johnson kowtows to them because his latest flame is a green. People like Johnson and her won't suffer the effects of the green tyranny. With Covid-19 having devastated the economy the green plans already mooted would tip it over the edge never mind the desires of the eco -terrorists in XR. |
You’re absolutely right.
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:39 - Sep 17 with 3689 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:38 - Sep 17 by Darth_Koont |
You’re absolutely right.
(steps backwards slowly, always maintaining eye contact) |
Not since the days of Pazaelle and CiL have we had a genuine board lunatic around. | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:39 - Sep 17 with 3693 views | brazil1982 |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 14:50 - Sep 17 by StokieBlue |
How can something that is structurally part of society not be something that's political?
You have accidentally hit upon a small nugget of truth within your rantings in that some of the slogans used create an element of hostility because they don't really convey what the movement actually wants.
"Defund the police" is probably the primary offender here in that it sounds pretty awful to many people but it doesn't really convey what the majority want in a clear way. When you actually explain the position to people they tend to become less hostile to it and can see the logic. The issue is that many people won't dig into the actual meaning/policy and will instead think it simply means get rid of the police which is an extreme view not held by the majority.
This is something that will be resolved over time if people are willing to look at the actual meaning rather than the knee-jerk interpretation of such slogans.
Ranting about "the left" isn't going to resolve anything and it's hard to see how that is any different to what you are accusing them of doing.
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BLM UK want to abolish the police. |  | | |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:41 - Sep 17 with 3687 views | Blue12345 |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 09:44 - Sep 16 by BlueBadger |
Which part of the founding principle 'stop disproportionally killing/mistreating people over their skin colour' do you find objectionable? |
The OP has not said he finds the message objectionable.
I have noticed that you are frequently argumentative on here. The OP has raised a valid post that could lead for some good discussion and you seem to have tried to make it into something it is not.don't bother replying I will not be able to see it. | | | |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:44 - Sep 17 with 3676 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:39 - Sep 17 by brazil1982 |
BLM UK want to abolish the police. |
Got a source for that? | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:46 - Sep 17 with 3662 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:41 - Sep 17 by Blue12345 |
The OP has not said he finds the message objectionable.
I have noticed that you are frequently argumentative on here. The OP has raised a valid post that could lead for some good discussion and you seem to have tried to make it into something it is not.don't bother replying I will not be able to see it. |
Hmmm. Sounds familiar. Where have I seen an attempt to derail a discussion and make it into something it's not? Oh! I remember! You!
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:47 - Sep 17 with 3663 views | eireblue |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:28 - Sep 17 by ROKERITE |
When was The UK run by a hard-right government? Johnson's is simply a continuation of the labour-lite blob we've had since Major.
Why is there a BLM movement? Because there are evil, violent people and a lot of sheep who follow without knowing many of the facts.
Why is there an XR movement? Because a lot of self-entitled fools like disrupting the lives of ordinary hard-working people and are advocating measures which would see tens of millions plunged into poverty were they to be enacted. Unfortunately Johnson kowtows to them because his latest flame is a green. People like Johnson and her won't suffer the effects of the green tyranny. With Covid-19 having devastated the economy the green plans already mooted would tip it over the edge never mind the desires of the eco -terrorists in XR. |
So to confirm the US and UK have not been run by hard left governments.
Thanks for helping Hamster with this.
So you have also confirmed that the issues that exist today, are not caused by hard left governments.
Hammpy will need to factor that into his thinking.
With respect to Thomas Sowell, much of his writing frames things into left and right view points.
He also mentions what is important when thinking of communities, and disparity of communities, that one shouldn’t try and address policy to meet a particular view of a community, but one should maintain basic principles, and it is maintaining principles that is actually important.
However, that latter way of addressing issues, is inconsistent with his categorising things as simple left or right.
Therefore I find his writing somewhat having bias, confirmation bias, and written from a specific view point, rather than informed by deep analysis.
What other writes on the history and policy making on such issues have you read? |  | | |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:47 - Sep 17 with 3663 views | StokieBlue |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:39 - Sep 17 by brazil1982 |
BLM UK want to abolish the police. |
You sure about that? A quick google would show that doesn't seem to be the case so can you provide a source?
It seems to be highlighting exactly what I said in that the slogan does a poor job of conveying the message and people thus don't look into the actual policy aims.
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:47 - Sep 17 with 3660 views | Darth_Koont |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:29 - Sep 17 by DecageBruce |
I have made my comment on the other BLM thread which appeared to be well received so I am not here to cut of my nose (as I have a history of killing threads through seeming boring/non related comments) however I can't help myself so....
- I support (obviously) the BLM message and what it represents
- Do I agree with every idea that has been raised under the same banner? No. I think that some have been misrepresented and are harmful to the cause as it has dirtied the water (imho).
- Is it/should it be political? Yes, of course it should.
- Does it being political make it easier? No
What I see though is that this forum, as much as I enjoy it, is a microcosm of society. There are obviously different views on this subject but there are some very strong (louder) people here who have aligned or misaligned poltical and social views. This leads to a constant disagreement from page 3 of most threads. Each side sticking to their ideals and not being willing to engage with each other. 'The right' give their view and provide what they believe is evidence (Daily Mail links ) and tbf do continue to offer their thoughts. 'The left' will (rightly so in most cases) take these opinions to task however in the vast majority of cases are then the first to commence personal attacks, continued jibes and dilute any 'upper hand' that they may have.
I agree that it is hard to change peoples minds, especially when they are 'wrong', and there is an argument that a football forum isn't the place to do it.
I would ask the 'right' posters here, what is it that you think would work? Also, why does the BLM movement make you so defensive?
I would ask the 'left', outside of TWTD, is there anything that you do/can to to make a real change in the real world?
Having had some challenging times but now being in a position of comfort I chose to engage and volunteer my time to a charity to support children. Have I seen the effects of racism on our young people? Yes. Have I seen the effects of austerity and cut backs in fundings by the current Gvt? Yes. Have I been involved with the charity (and the NHS) when labour have been in power and seen the additional funding mismanaged and pissed up the wall? Yes.
Until everyone is willing to accept the flaws in their own beliefs and ideologies and that there is no one size fits all fix then we will continue this cycle of puff and blunder but little action as we all get distracted by the additional noise of arguments. |
Beliefs certainly have little to do with it. If there are differences in opinion, we should be having a perfectly reasonable, objective and evidence-based discussion.
If people want to demand that these things are debated on other terms then it’s utterly pointless. | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:48 - Sep 17 with 3658 views | Half_Idiot |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:28 - Sep 17 by ROKERITE |
When was The UK run by a hard-right government? Johnson's is simply a continuation of the labour-lite blob we've had since Major.
Why is there a BLM movement? Because there are evil, violent people and a lot of sheep who follow without knowing many of the facts.
Why is there an XR movement? Because a lot of self-entitled fools like disrupting the lives of ordinary hard-working people and are advocating measures which would see tens of millions plunged into poverty were they to be enacted. Unfortunately Johnson kowtows to them because his latest flame is a green. People like Johnson and her won't suffer the effects of the green tyranny. With Covid-19 having devastated the economy the green plans already mooted would tip it over the edge never mind the desires of the eco -terrorists in XR. |
"Why is there a BLM movement? Because there are evil, violent people and a lot of sheep who follow without knowing many of the facts." You clearly don't know the facts if you believe that. It's really easy to find facts that prove racism and systemic racism are very much a real issue.
"Why is there an XR movement? Because a lot of self-entitled fools like disrupting the lives of ordinary hard-working people and are advocating measures which would see tens of millions plunged into poverty were they to be enacted. Unfortunately Johnson kowtows to them because his latest flame is a green. People like Johnson and her won't suffer the effects of the green tyranny. With Covid-19 having devastated the economy the green plans already mooted would tip it over the edge never mind the desires of the eco -terrorists in XR." Yet again you are willingly ignore all the reports that prove climate change is a massive issue.
You need to stop reading right wing propaganda and do some research of your own! |  | | |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:48 - Sep 17 with 3651 views | SpruceMoose |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:47 - Sep 17 by StokieBlue |
You sure about that? A quick google would show that doesn't seem to be the case so can you provide a source?
It seems to be highlighting exactly what I said in that the slogan does a poor job of conveying the message and people thus don't look into the actual policy aims.
SB |
Somebody has been reading the Daily Mail again...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8441405/The-avowed-aims-British-arm-Bla | |
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| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:48 - Sep 17 with 3655 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Is it possible to disagree with the BLM movement on 15:28 - Sep 17 by ROKERITE |
When was The UK run by a hard-right government? Johnson's is simply a continuation of the labour-lite blob we've had since Major.
Why is there a BLM movement? Because there are evil, violent people and a lot of sheep who follow without knowing many of the facts.
Why is there an XR movement? Because a lot of self-entitled fools like disrupting the lives of ordinary hard-working people and are advocating measures which would see tens of millions plunged into poverty were they to be enacted. Unfortunately Johnson kowtows to them because his latest flame is a green. People like Johnson and her won't suffer the effects of the green tyranny. With Covid-19 having devastated the economy the green plans already mooted would tip it over the edge never mind the desires of the eco -terrorists in XR. |
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