| Labour Party and Kier Starmer 07:25 - Sep 3 with 49727 views | onceablue |
I just woke up from a nightmare where Kier Starmer and his Girlfriend Rachael Reeves were in charge of the country
Oh f@ck
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:31 - Sep 3 with 3143 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:09 - Sep 3 by WeWereZombies |
Apologies, I was on the Money Savings Expert website as this thread unfolded and I took a quick squint at 'what benefits can pensioners claim ?' picking out the first item on the list. Should have been more diligent and picked out Pension Credit.
[Edit: And in passing I noticed MSE claiming that twenty two billion pounds of benefits is going unclaimed so there are opportunities, maybe with the help of a Citizen's Advice Bureau, for pensioners to plug the gap that the Winter Fuel Allowance may leave. Although that won't help Reeves balance the books.] [Post edited 3 Sep 2024 12:12]
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Benefits are a nightmare and far too many people , not just pensioners , are not claiming things they are entitled to.
We were lucky, when my wife broke her neck and damaged her spinal cord . Spinal Injuries Association (SIA)were very helpful. Before she was discharged from rehab they sat down and went through what could be claimed. The oddest related to Council Tax, because had to spend thousands on modifications around the house our council tax was reduced to the band below what it was.
Income and savings were such that wasn’t entitled to a grant for any of the changes needed but they are for those in a less fortunate position.
Winter fuel allowance has been passed on to SIA as a donation, will continue to donate. [Post edited 3 Sep 2024 12:58]
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:31 - Sep 3 with 3145 views | blueasfook |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:21 - Sep 3 by Leaky |
Hate these international breaks you end with threads like this. |
If only the forum had a filter where you could see football-related posts only. |  |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:35 - Sep 3 with 3122 views | Benters |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 10:26 - Sep 3 by blueasfook |
I think if you're a comfortably well off pensioner, then fine. The issue I think is for those pensioners who have just enough of a pension income not to qualify for means tested benefits. For those people, losing the winter fuel payment will mean a lot. |
This. |  |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:45 - Sep 3 with 3082 views | Leaky |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:23 - Sep 3 by Dubtractor |
Amen to this.
Pretty certain your politics are very different to mine, but we're def on the same page here. |
I honestly believe politicians of all parties should all put down in a humane way |  | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:47 - Sep 3 with 3073 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 10:00 - Sep 3 by baxterbasics |
I didn't vote for them (or more accurately, for their party) but after major disillusionment with the last lot I was resigned to giving them a fair shot.
So far my main impression is that they are focussed on what they can ban, how many they can throw in jail, and finding new and imaginative ways to tax us.
Not encouraging really. |
Would you have preferred people stirring up racist violence against refugees got a fine? |  | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:52 - Sep 3 with 3031 views | Leaky |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:31 - Sep 3 by blueasfook |
If only the forum had a filter where you could see football-related posts only. |
Some of use the all post option. Perhaps Phil could bring in a political option | | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:56 - Sep 3 with 3015 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 10:03 - Sep 3 by WeWereZombies |
The proposal, as I understand it, is to take the winter fuel allowance away from pensioners who are not receiving a means tested benefit (such as attendance allowance) but retaining the winter fuel allowance for those who genuinely need it. As a pensioner who is not too badly off I have always felt a bit guilty on receiving this allowance so, whilst I am not jumping for joy about getting less money, I see the proposal as fair enough. |
Attendance Allowance is not means tested | | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:57 - Sep 3 with 3002 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 10:44 - Sep 3 by Guthrum |
The issue is to set up a new and separate means-testing framework and system will take time and money. Or it gets subcontracted to the kind of people who run the brutal assessments for sickness/disability benefits. |
“the kind of people who run the brutal assessments for sickness/disability benefits.”
Is exactly what they’ve done, only they’ve saved on the outsourcing to the private sector. I expect there are millions who have an immaterial top up who were already struggling with heating bills before losing the benefit.
I’m slightly surprised with the ‘well I’m alright so it’s okay if they get rid of it responses’. Fortunately there’s been quite a backlash, so hopefully empathy will prevail. | | | |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:58 - Sep 3 with 2999 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:47 - Sep 3 by reusersfreekicks |
Would you have preferred people stirring up racist violence against refugees got a fine? |
Where on earth did he say that? |  |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 13:08 - Sep 3 with 2933 views | WeWereZombies |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:57 - Sep 3 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“the kind of people who run the brutal assessments for sickness/disability benefits.”
Is exactly what they’ve done, only they’ve saved on the outsourcing to the private sector. I expect there are millions who have an immaterial top up who were already struggling with heating bills before losing the benefit.
I’m slightly surprised with the ‘well I’m alright so it’s okay if they get rid of it responses’. Fortunately there’s been quite a backlash, so hopefully empathy will prevail. |
You are misconstruing me slightly, my post was that I was comfortable and would not really miss it but I am glad that the proposal will not remove the Winter Fuel Allowance for pensioners getting means tested benefits such as Pension Credit (and Attendance Allowance does not apply in this instance as Pinewood and another poster later on have corrected me on.)
The point about removing Winter Fuel Allowance from pensioners who are just about getting by is valid but difficult to assess how many will be affected. The exchange with Pinewood was quite useful in this respect and brought out the point that many are not claiming benefits they are entitled to, and that help is out there from charities and voluntary associations. |  |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 13:08 - Sep 3 with 2924 views | Leaky |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:57 - Sep 3 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“the kind of people who run the brutal assessments for sickness/disability benefits.”
Is exactly what they’ve done, only they’ve saved on the outsourcing to the private sector. I expect there are millions who have an immaterial top up who were already struggling with heating bills before losing the benefit.
I’m slightly surprised with the ‘well I’m alright so it’s okay if they get rid of it responses’. Fortunately there’s been quite a backlash, so hopefully empathy will prevail. |
Perhaps if we had pensions at the same level as France & Germany we wouldn't these ridiculous top ups | | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 13:17 - Sep 3 with 2916 views | factual_blue |
'Kier' Starmer isn't Prime Minister, and 'Rachael' Reeves isn't Chancellor of the Exchequer.
You'd best pay more attention in your Year Three spelling lessons this term. |  |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:00 - Sep 3 with 2825 views | factual_blue |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 12:09 - Sep 3 by WeWereZombies |
Apologies, I was on the Money Savings Expert website as this thread unfolded and I took a quick squint at 'what benefits can pensioners claim ?' picking out the first item on the list. Should have been more diligent and picked out Pension Credit.
[Edit: And in passing I noticed MSE claiming that twenty two billion pounds of benefits is going unclaimed so there are opportunities, maybe with the help of a Citizen's Advice Bureau, for pensioners to plug the gap that the Winter Fuel Allowance may leave. Although that won't help Reeves balance the books.] [Post edited 3 Sep 2024 12:12]
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When Pension Credit was first introduced (and I suspect regularly since then), DWP have contacted pensioners to advise them they might be interest in claiming PC.
Responses fall into three categories:
1. 'I had no idea'. They then make a claim, successfully.
2. 'I've got other income, I know I can't get it. Fewer of these nowadays, as information about superannuation etc is now available directly to DWP so those calls aren't getting made.
3. The phone is put down on the caller, possibly accompanied with 'I don't want charity'. | |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:32 - Sep 3 with 2751 views | Leaky |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 09:54 - Sep 3 by BlueBadger |
What is it you liked best about the Tories? The crashed economies, the ruined public services, the bigotry, the corruption, the incompetence or the criminality? |
Bloody he'll badger the copy & paste button must be knackered by now | | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:48 - Sep 3 with 2721 views | positivity |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:32 - Sep 3 by Leaky |
Bloody he'll badger the copy & paste button must be knackered by now |
maybe if someone ever came up with a decent defence, he wouldn't have to keep challenging people on it! | |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:49 - Sep 3 with 2708 views | BlueBadger |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:32 - Sep 3 by Leaky |
Bloody he'll badger the copy & paste button must be knackered by now |
If just one of you lot would just answer the question. I ask merely for information. |  |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 16:19 - Sep 3 with 2637 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 10:08 - Sep 3 by onceablue |
What makes you think I voted Tory and I didn’t vote reform either
My point is 66 people out of a 100 that voted did not vote Labour
So as I didn’t vote Labour and 66 people per 100 also didn’t vote Labour there is a common theme between me and the 66 people
What is so difficult to understand about that |
It's pretty simple, whoever you voted for didn't get as many votes as Labour. |  |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 17:14 - Sep 3 with 2544 views | Leaky |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 14:48 - Sep 3 by positivity |
maybe if someone ever came up with a decent defence, he wouldn't have to keep challenging people on it! |
It does get a tad boring | | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 17:18 - Sep 3 with 2523 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 10:00 - Sep 3 by onceablue |
Sorry I will rephrase that
66 out of 100 people who voted agree with me |
No they don't. I didn't vote for Labour but I would rather have Starmer running the country than the Tories or Reform. |  | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 17:26 - Sep 3 with 2514 views | positivity |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 17:14 - Sep 3 by Leaky |
It does get a tad boring |
and yet the silence from the usual suspects is always deafening! | |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 18:00 - Sep 3 with 2455 views | Eireannach_gorm |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 10:13 - Sep 3 by onceablue |
It is the will of 33 people out of 100 lets be honest as you seem to have put honesty at the forefront of your argument |
Small point, General elections are not Referendums. |  | | |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 19:08 - Sep 3 with 2397 views | bournemouthblue |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 08:23 - Sep 3 by onceablue |
Course it’s not irrelevant
Yes there are in power but they are hardly the party of the people, like they think they are, when 66 out of every 100 people DID NOT VOTE FOR THEM |
You're overestimating how much of that percentage care about politics at all, in all honesty |  |
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| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 19:15 - Sep 3 with 2394 views | Mullet |
Well this has some Bobby dazzlers of opinions, blubbing and terrible takes over the past 3 pages.
What did you admire, like or respect about the government that put us all in this position? |  |
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| Blimey Mullet.... on 19:17 - Sep 3 with 2400 views | Bloots |
| Labour Party and Kier Starmer on 19:15 - Sep 3 by Mullet |
Well this has some Bobby dazzlers of opinions, blubbing and terrible takes over the past 3 pages.
What did you admire, like or respect about the government that put us all in this position? |
....you turning into BlueBadger??? |  |
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| Blimey Mullet.... on 19:21 - Sep 3 with 2382 views | J2BLUE |
| Blimey Mullet.... on 19:17 - Sep 3 by Bloots |
....you turning into BlueBadger??? |
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