| Chambo has spoken 21:49 - Dec 4 with 32996 views | Illinoisblue |
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| Chambo has spoken on 16:56 - Dec 5 with 1708 views | footers |
| Chambo has spoken on 16:53 - Dec 5 by monytowbray |
Plenty of spiteful comments about Chambers in here that are worse. Choose your battles. |
I have no ill will towards either Cook or Chambers. It was clear Chambers' time was up and the way Cook handled that certainly sounds questionable.
However, we move on. But I am glad that we'll seemingly no longer bob along accepting mediocrity. That's the best thing to come out of all this, imo. Would never have happened under Evans! |  |
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| Chambo has spoken on 16:57 - Dec 5 with 1696 views | monytowbray |
| Chambo has spoken on 16:55 - Dec 5 by Darth_Koont |
I don’t have a problem with Chambers’s “beef” with Cook. Really tame stuff, on the whole.
But he can’t feel hard done by either. The writing was on every wall when the squad overhaul was on the horizon.
No need for the silly reactions on either side. |
I’ve been hoofed out of a business like a turd and watched it tank not long after. I laughed.
Not the most professional thing to post publicly but he’s human. |  |
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| Chambo has spoken on 16:58 - Dec 5 with 1683 views | monytowbray |
| Chambo has spoken on 16:56 - Dec 5 by footers |
I have no ill will towards either Cook or Chambers. It was clear Chambers' time was up and the way Cook handled that certainly sounds questionable.
However, we move on. But I am glad that we'll seemingly no longer bob along accepting mediocrity. That's the best thing to come out of all this, imo. Would never have happened under Evans! |
True dat. Just seems like a massive non-issue and a few people have seen the floodgates open for a row to me.
Burn this thread Phil. | |
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| Chambo has spoken on 16:59 - Dec 5 with 1683 views | longtimefan |
| Chambo has spoken on 16:39 - Dec 5 by Darth_Koont |
I don’t know about anybody else but the “nobody” rankled. Forget the emotion, the booze or whatever, it felt a very cheap shot.
Still does even if Joe has explained it a bit better today. |
I think Joe was wrong to call him a nobody - In terms of his management of Ipswich his performance ranks close to Hurst and Lambert as one of the worst in our history. There are probably better words than nobody to describe that level of failure, particularly with the resources given to him. |  | | |
| Chambo has spoken on 16:59 - Dec 5 with 1679 views | bluestandard |
| Chambo has spoken on 16:35 - Dec 5 by Herbivore |
Players being released isn't an issue, but you can handle it with class or you can call yourself "demolition man". These are the choices we all have to make I guess. I do find it odd that some are so upset about a Chambers having a little dig back given the circumstances. Can't really blame him. |
I do agree that Cook’s self-styled ‘demolition man’ persona is something he should reflect on, and may regret when he looks back. The other side of that coin is that he and the fans were being badly let down on the pitch by players including Chambo, Bishop etc. Personally (and I don’t think I’m alone), the whole ‘demolition man’ mantra was close to what I as a fan wanted to hear. It’s part of why Cook brought supporters onside.
This thread is starting to conflate several unrelated issues. The ‘nobody’ comment which has everyone particularly riled up to me is less about the supposed disrespect and more about the underlying bias of the poster presenting as objective, clearly visible in this forum over a period of time. I should add, I don’t know the poster, but don’t doubt the consensus on the board that he is a good guy. None of this is / should be personal. | | | |
| Chambo has spoken on 17:07 - Dec 5 with 1646 views | itfcjoe |
| Chambo has spoken on 16:46 - Dec 5 by chicoazul |
So much inane pearl clutching on here and elsewhere online from grow men who think it’s ok to shout abuse and invective online at one of our loyalist hardest working players over a silly comment made in the heat of the moment, and no doubt regularly abuse home and away players at matches too. Several of you need to look in the mirror. |
You’d think I’d actually said something that is properly out of order and abusive, or that Chambers had |  |
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| Chambo has spoken on 17:11 - Dec 5 with 1619 views | positivity |
| Chambo has spoken on 16:55 - Dec 5 by Darth_Koont |
I don’t have a problem with Chambers’s “beef” with Cook. Really tame stuff, on the whole.
But he can’t feel hard done by either. The writing was on every wall when the squad overhaul was on the horizon.
No need for the silly reactions on either side. |
agree, chambers was stupid and classless, he realised it and deleted it.
everyone can make a mistake, move on | |
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| I've been out all day.... on 17:16 - Dec 5 with 1594 views | Bloots |
| Chambo has spoken on 17:07 - Dec 5 by itfcjoe |
You’d think I’d actually said something that is properly out of order and abusive, or that Chambers had |
....I've got back and been searching for whatever the issue is.
I can't find one.
I can only assume that a number of posters bought into #cookball so heavily that they are looking for something to kick out at.
You aligned yourself with Chambo (legend) he was aligned with Mick......you know how it works.
I'm sure a few no mark blow hards on an internet messageboard won't concern you anyway! [Post edited 5 Dec 2021 17:17]
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| Chambo has spoken on 17:28 - Dec 5 with 1552 views | Churchman |
| Chambo has spoken on 16:57 - Dec 5 by monytowbray |
I’ve been hoofed out of a business like a turd and watched it tank not long after. I laughed.
Not the most professional thing to post publicly but he’s human. |
I have been shoved out of a job I loved too along with a load of colleagues. When the company got into problems because of it, me and my former colleagues enjoyed many a beer, dinners and much laughter over it. But it was private laughter, because several of them were still working in that industry and word gets around.
For a moments gratification, why offer even the vaguest possibility of compromising possible future employment? If the way he was moved on was done badly, people in the business will already be aware of it. Just seems pointless and daft to me. |  | | |
| TL:DR. People disagreed. (n/t) on 17:31 - Dec 5 with 1529 views | wkj |
| I've been out all day.... on 17:16 - Dec 5 by Bloots |
....I've got back and been searching for whatever the issue is.
I can't find one.
I can only assume that a number of posters bought into #cookball so heavily that they are looking for something to kick out at.
You aligned yourself with Chambo (legend) he was aligned with Mick......you know how it works.
I'm sure a few no mark blow hards on an internet messageboard won't concern you anyway! [Post edited 5 Dec 2021 17:17]
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| I've been out all day.... on 17:33 - Dec 5 with 1516 views | positivity |
| I've been out all day.... on 17:16 - Dec 5 by Bloots |
....I've got back and been searching for whatever the issue is.
I can't find one.
I can only assume that a number of posters bought into #cookball so heavily that they are looking for something to kick out at.
You aligned yourself with Chambo (legend) he was aligned with Mick......you know how it works.
I'm sure a few no mark blow hards on an internet messageboard won't concern you anyway! [Post edited 5 Dec 2021 17:17]
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let's keep the legend status to those that deserve it!
chambers was a hard-working servant to the club and i wish him well, but he wasn't good enough to be a legend in the positive sense. his main contribution to our history was being the only captain to relegate us to division 3...
legends are bobby, alf, muhren, wark, mariner et al not the likes of chambers, quaner or skuse | |
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| Chambo has spoken on 17:33 - Dec 5 with 1507 views | lonepill |
What's he even referencing here? |  | | |
| I've been out all day.... on 17:34 - Dec 5 with 1506 views | wkj |
| I've been out all day.... on 17:33 - Dec 5 by positivity |
let's keep the legend status to those that deserve it!
chambers was a hard-working servant to the club and i wish him well, but he wasn't good enough to be a legend in the positive sense. his main contribution to our history was being the only captain to relegate us to division 3...
legends are bobby, alf, muhren, wark, mariner et al not the likes of chambers, quaner or skuse |
* And Tabb. | |
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| I've been out all day.... on 17:34 - Dec 5 with 1496 views | positivity |
| I've been out all day.... on 17:34 - Dec 5 by wkj |
* And Tabb. |
obvs! [Post edited 5 Dec 2021 17:34]
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| I've been out all day.... on 17:42 - Dec 5 with 1463 views | Darth_Koont |
| I've been out all day.... on 17:16 - Dec 5 by Bloots |
....I've got back and been searching for whatever the issue is.
I can't find one.
I can only assume that a number of posters bought into #cookball so heavily that they are looking for something to kick out at.
You aligned yourself with Chambo (legend) he was aligned with Mick......you know how it works.
I'm sure a few no mark blow hards on an internet messageboard won't concern you anyway! [Post edited 5 Dec 2021 17:17]
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If you assume you make an ass out of yourself.
I have no problem with Chambers (even though the idea that his career was ended by a manager rather than time itself is a bit foolish) and I thought Mick was sadly underrated.
Joe should just edit and move on. |  |
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| Chambo has spoken on 17:43 - Dec 5 with 1448 views | itfcjoe |
| Chambo has spoken on 17:28 - Dec 5 by Churchman |
I have been shoved out of a job I loved too along with a load of colleagues. When the company got into problems because of it, me and my former colleagues enjoyed many a beer, dinners and much laughter over it. But it was private laughter, because several of them were still working in that industry and word gets around.
For a moments gratification, why offer even the vaguest possibility of compromising possible future employment? If the way he was moved on was done badly, people in the business will already be aware of it. Just seems pointless and daft to me. |
I think fact he deleted it shortly after suggests he agrees with your assessment | |
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| Chambo has spoken on 17:49 - Dec 5 with 1395 views | chicoazul |
| Chambo has spoken on 17:07 - Dec 5 by itfcjoe |
You’d think I’d actually said something that is properly out of order and abusive, or that Chambers had |
Put it down to jealousy mate. Lots of these muppets would love to have your friendships access podcasts etc |  |
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| Chambo has spoken on 17:50 - Dec 5 with 1395 views | Churchman |
| Chambo has spoken on 17:43 - Dec 5 by itfcjoe |
I think fact he deleted it shortly after suggests he agrees with your assessment |
I think you are right Joe. Oh, the perils of social media. If I’d worked in a high profile business like professional sport, I’d never have gone near it. But hey, we are all different (thankfully!). | | | |
| Chambo has spoken on 18:01 - Dec 5 with 1335 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Chambo has spoken on 14:55 - Dec 5 by itfcjoe |
I only really mean in it in the way that Hurst is now a nobody here, just came in did their best and it wasn’t good enough so moved on relatively quickly
I’ve spoken to Cook a couple of times, and for all that’s said he was a really good guy - loves football and very passionate. In a way I think he’ll be glad to be out of here as the hob wasn’t what he signed up for |
Hahahaha of course you did. |  |
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| Chambo has spoken on 18:06 - Dec 5 with 1305 views | Funge |
| Chambo has spoken on 16:49 - Dec 5 by monytowbray |
I’m catching up but I don’t disagree with the statement in context to ITFC. Chambers is a bigger part of our folklore than Cook, and more likely to have a memorial design at PR than Cook in the future.
In regards to wider football the statement doesn’t work, but as someone who’s been victim many a time to “NO THAT’S NOT WHAT YOU MEANT I DECIDE WHAT YOU MEANT AND I’M DOUBLING DOWN TO KEEP THE PILE ON GOING” threads, this screams of it.
I mean, in a way mildly amusing as Joe was a front runner of vegan threads and doing it my way back in the day, but also Joe in general is a decent poster and any past (seitan mock) beef is water under the bridge. But also I see a few others who never have an issue doing it to other posters taking the moral high ground.
TWTD, I rarely come on here now and I don’t miss it much. I expect I’m not missed much either. It’s like screaming into the abyss these days. I’d rather smoke a J and chat face to face about issues with those open minded to listening, keyboards and egos make the internet in general a hellish affair.
But back to the OP, I’ll always have more time for Chambers than Cook. Did people forget this last minute goal against scum, his role in the MM side that was our only season of note in the last 15 years and the atmosphere the fist pump brought? It was a relationship too many like to focus on the latter of and forget the good times.
We’ve all let Alan Lee off for going to scum, folks need to get over it. He was right, Cook f**ked it. |
Yep, agree with quite a lot of this. |  | | |
| Chambo has spoken on 18:09 - Dec 5 with 1285 views | wkj |
| Chambo has spoken on 17:49 - Dec 5 by chicoazul |
Put it down to jealousy mate. Lots of these muppets would love to have your friendships access podcasts etc |
I think the ambition of most content creators goes beyond doing an ITFC podcast. | |
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| Chambo has spoken on 18:11 - Dec 5 with 1275 views | RKD |
| Chambo has spoken on 17:43 - Dec 5 by itfcjoe |
I think fact he deleted it shortly after suggests he agrees with your assessment |
People judging Chambers by one post as opposed to the level of integrity he carried himself with over the course of 10 years is classic. Some posters also love looking for an excuse to make a dig at Joe, despite him being a very well balanced poster who I've never seen speak to people with anything other than respect.
EDIT - "make a dig". Thanks wkj [Post edited 5 Dec 2021 18:22]
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| Chambo has spoken on 18:12 - Dec 5 with 1269 views | wkj |
| Chambo has spoken on 18:11 - Dec 5 by RKD |
People judging Chambers by one post as opposed to the level of integrity he carried himself with over the course of 10 years is classic. Some posters also love looking for an excuse to make a dig at Joe, despite him being a very well balanced poster who I've never seen speak to people with anything other than respect.
EDIT - "make a dig". Thanks wkj [Post edited 5 Dec 2021 18:22]
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I think your implication that Joe is making it with a dog is more out of line. | |
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| Chambo has spoken on 18:23 - Dec 5 with 1224 views | yesjohn99 |
| Chambo has spoken on 14:08 - Dec 5 by itfcjoe |
There’s a difference between calling a comment out as some have, and being personally abusive - they are the ones who need to look at themselves
I shouldn’t have to report 4 or 5 posts for abuse
Paul Cook is now a nobody at Ipswich Town, his time here will be barely a footnote on the clubs history - he treated good people badly, and if you aren’t going to get results it will be held against him |
Shame Luke chambers isn’t a nobody at ITFC. Unfortunately he was a somebody who was an ever present in Ipswich’s worst spell in its entire history. Absolute disgrace a man of his limited ability has gotten into our top ten appearances.
But hey ho, he took in some youth players.
Paul Cook may have turned it in time we’ll never know. What we do know is Luke Chambers wasn’t very good. | | | |
| Chambo has spoken on 18:32 - Dec 5 with 1182 views | Ryorry |
| Chambo has spoken on 22:35 - Dec 4 by itfcjoe |
His Ipswich career was ended by a nobody who lasted 5 minutes- no wonder he’s annoyed |
Loyalty to friends is a wonderful character trait, but doesn't enable you to objectively assess those friends' & their employers' professional careers - possibly quite the opposite. |  |
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