| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason 14:06 - Dec 2 with 84828 views | chicoazul |
Now that the club has confirmed Morsy chose not to wear the armband, how do our LGBTQ fans feel about this?
Like I say I would continue the interesting conversation we were having but that thread is locked. |  |
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| Yeah, seemed a bit random…. on 11:06 - Dec 3 with 1603 views | Bloots |
| Indeed, I mentioned it…. on 11:02 - Dec 3 by GlasgowBlue |
I'm still not sure why Phil looked the other thread? There nothing said on that thread that hasn't been said on this one. Letting this thread run seems to have coincided with the club issuing a statement. |
….particularly given some of the threads that aren’t locked!
Higher forces at work. |  |
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| Indeed, I mentioned it…. on 11:07 - Dec 3 with 1611 views | PhilTWTD |
| Indeed, I mentioned it…. on 11:02 - Dec 3 by GlasgowBlue |
I'm still not sure why Phil looked the other thread? There nothing said on that thread that hasn't been said on this one. Letting this thread run seems to have coincided with the club issuing a statement. |
Just asked Gav and neither of us did so intentionally. I assumed he'd done it while I was out much of yesterday and he assumed I had. Slip of the finger or mouse. Will unlock. |  | | |
| Indeed, I mentioned it…. on 11:08 - Dec 3 with 1595 views | DJR |
| Indeed, I mentioned it…. on 11:02 - Dec 3 by GlasgowBlue |
I'm still not sure why Phil looked the other thread? There nothing said on that thread that hasn't been said on this one. Letting this thread run seems to have coincided with the club issuing a statement. |
It seems to me a bit of a PR disaster for the club (and was even mentioned on the World Service this morning). Why it took until yesterday for them to say anything is a mystery. Perhaps they were hoping no one would notice. |  | | |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:09 - Dec 3 with 1589 views | slade1 |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 10:30 - Dec 3 by itfc_statman |
For anyone defending Morsy on this, I wonder if you'd defend a white, English, christian, reform-supporting player of doing the same thing?
Well, actually, some of you probably would |
Sam can do whatever he feels right, and if he doesn't want to wear that armband then its up to him and good luck to him.
I am white and English but I also wouldn't want to wear that armband if I was captain. |  | | |
| Indeed, I mentioned it…. on 11:12 - Dec 3 with 1547 views | Ryorry |
| Indeed, I mentioned it…. on 11:07 - Dec 3 by PhilTWTD |
Just asked Gav and neither of us did so intentionally. I assumed he'd done it while I was out much of yesterday and he assumed I had. Slip of the finger or mouse. Will unlock. |
Thus could WW3 be started ... |  |
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| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:15 - Dec 3 with 1536 views | GavTWTD |
Phil has just asked me if I had locked the original thread, and I had assumed he did. However I've checked the logs and it was me! Apologies, I didn't mean to. Pointless unlocking the original now though. |  |
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| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:16 - Dec 3 with 1520 views | textbackup |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:09 - Dec 3 by slade1 |
Sam can do whatever he feels right, and if he doesn't want to wear that armband then its up to him and good luck to him.
I am white and English but I also wouldn't want to wear that armband if I was captain. |
Such a man |  |
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| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:22 - Dec 3 with 1442 views | itfcjoe |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:01 - Dec 3 by Jrm_72 |
So what do we make of Marc Guehi writing 'I love Jesus' on his rainbow armband?
Think someone mentioned above about what if a christian did something similar, so now is the chance...
For me, I think wearing the armband, then effectively defacing it with a message that could/should be interpreted as 'I'm doing this under protest' is worse. Minimum is its just as bad.
Sure the two of them will have plenty to chat about in the tunnel tonight... |
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/42750422/marc-guehi-face-fa-charge-love-j
The story here for those who haven't seen it |  |
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| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:27 - Dec 3 with 1387 views | PassionNotAnger |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 10:54 - Dec 3 by waveneyblue |
To make it crystal clear, I couldn't give one single toss to what you personally think about me. Not one.
But what does bother me, is your less than subtle accusation on a public message board. |
Think you need to get a better understanding of language if you want to debate with adults
I haven’t made any “accusations”. Some people may take some of my posts as insinuation's but that would be their interpretation of the words I used, in a similar vein many will have interpreted your contribution in a certain way.
If you aren’t comfortable with the potential interpretations then perhaps look back at how that may have happened
Defend not deflect | | | |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:29 - Dec 3 with 1372 views | blueboyd |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:09 - Dec 3 by slade1 |
Sam can do whatever he feels right, and if he doesn't want to wear that armband then its up to him and good luck to him.
I am white and English but I also wouldn't want to wear that armband if I was captain. |
Oh Gary.... | | | |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:36 - Dec 3 with 1320 views | textbackup |
Was SMs a personal statement based on religious beliefs, so could face a fine?
I’m sure they’d avoid the conflict and the shtstorm that could follow.
But would be interesting to see the reaction if he wore it, but wrote Allahu Akbar on it. | |
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| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:39 - Dec 3 with 1286 views | giant_stow |
Interesting twist. Sounds like he could be in more trouble than Morsy, despite trying to find a compromise. |  |
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| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:40 - Dec 3 with 1276 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:09 - Dec 3 by slade1 |
Sam can do whatever he feels right, and if he doesn't want to wear that armband then its up to him and good luck to him.
I am white and English but I also wouldn't want to wear that armband if I was captain. |
Weird post |  |
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| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:42 - Dec 3 with 1267 views | slade1 |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:16 - Dec 3 by textbackup |
Such a man |
And what does that stupid comment mean?
I personally wouldn't wear anything to do with LGBTQ+ or go to any of their events etc.
That is my choice | | | |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:45 - Dec 3 with 1216 views | itfcjoe |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:36 - Dec 3 by textbackup |
Was SMs a personal statement based on religious beliefs, so could face a fine?
I’m sure they’d avoid the conflict and the shtstorm that could follow.
But would be interesting to see the reaction if he wore it, but wrote Allahu Akbar on it. |
I'm sure writing that on there would get him in more hot water than not wearing it, or writing what Guehi did on it
I just find it difficult as just very anti-religion but don't like to vocalise it too much as it is offensive to many, but this sort of sh*t is why - people think that when they are ultra religious they are morally superior to you and it's just laughable, they need to activate their brain and decide what is right and wrong.
Should everyone be welcome at football and in the game? That's the only thing that matters here and we can see that they aren't | |
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| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:50 - Dec 3 with 1142 views | waveneyblue |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:27 - Dec 3 by PassionNotAnger |
Think you need to get a better understanding of language if you want to debate with adults
I haven’t made any “accusations”. Some people may take some of my posts as insinuation's but that would be their interpretation of the words I used, in a similar vein many will have interpreted your contribution in a certain way.
If you aren’t comfortable with the potential interpretations then perhaps look back at how that may have happened
Defend not deflect |
Whatever,
Just be very careful climbing off your high horse.
I would hate it if you injured yourself. |  | | |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:52 - Dec 3 with 1116 views | wischip |
It seems like the national press were trying to start a witch-hunt here on our captain but the general public are not buying it, seeing that there's not really a story here. |  | | |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:55 - Dec 3 with 1065 views | giant_stow |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:45 - Dec 3 by itfcjoe |
I'm sure writing that on there would get him in more hot water than not wearing it, or writing what Guehi did on it
I just find it difficult as just very anti-religion but don't like to vocalise it too much as it is offensive to many, but this sort of sh*t is why - people think that when they are ultra religious they are morally superior to you and it's just laughable, they need to activate their brain and decide what is right and wrong.
Should everyone be welcome at football and in the game? That's the only thing that matters here and we can see that they aren't |
Maybe the last thing this discussion needs is a full blown debate about religion, but I have to say, I'm seeing moral superiority aplenty on this thread, but no openly religious bods. In fairness, it's a justifiable superiority in many ways, but tolerance must work both ways or it's anything but. Please everyone remember that its completely possible to be gay and religious. | |
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| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:55 - Dec 3 with 1060 views | eireblue |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:45 - Dec 3 by itfcjoe |
I'm sure writing that on there would get him in more hot water than not wearing it, or writing what Guehi did on it
I just find it difficult as just very anti-religion but don't like to vocalise it too much as it is offensive to many, but this sort of sh*t is why - people think that when they are ultra religious they are morally superior to you and it's just laughable, they need to activate their brain and decide what is right and wrong.
Should everyone be welcome at football and in the game? That's the only thing that matters here and we can see that they aren't |
Your post reminded me of the quote by Steven Weinberg, “With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.” |  | | |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:56 - Dec 3 with 1051 views | Blueschev |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:42 - Dec 3 by slade1 |
And what does that stupid comment mean?
I personally wouldn't wear anything to do with LGBTQ+ or go to any of their events etc.
That is my choice |
Why not? |  | | |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:56 - Dec 3 with 1042 views | waveneyblue |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:52 - Dec 3 by wischip |
It seems like the national press were trying to start a witch-hunt here on our captain but the general public are not buying it, seeing that there's not really a story here. |
Thankfully this place (in general) isn't representative of the general public.
On this topic and a myriad of others. | | | |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:58 - Dec 3 with 1025 views | giant_stow |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:55 - Dec 3 by eireblue |
Your post reminded me of the quote by Steven Weinberg, “With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.” |
That's not actually true though. | |
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| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 12:00 - Dec 3 with 978 views | dirtyboy |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 10:57 - Dec 3 by Blueschev |
I reserve the right not to have any respect for Morsy's religion, or that of anybody else. I respect people's right to religious freedom, not the religion itself.
Being a Muslim doesn't make Morsy a bad person, nor does it give him a free pass for bigotry. |
You're suggesting he's advocating bigotry which is a big leap.
In my eyes it's being analysed too much.
Is Morsy a good human being? Probably.
I'm prepared to move on when there's f*****g atrocities being carried out across the world that are far more deserving of time and discussion than whether one person represents us all. |  | | |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 12:00 - Dec 3 with 1575 views | Ryorry |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:58 - Dec 3 by giant_stow |
That's not actually true though. |
Yes, doesn't *necessarily* take religion. | |
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| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 12:03 - Dec 3 with 1560 views | noggin |
| My armband thread has been locked for whatever reason on 11:52 - Dec 3 by wischip |
It seems like the national press were trying to start a witch-hunt here on our captain but the general public are not buying it, seeing that there's not really a story here. |
Oh there is a story here, we're already at 19 pages on TWTD. Like players taking, or not taking the knee and people choosing not to wear a poppy, it creates hysteria among groups of people who want to feel offended on behalf of others. The irony is, our Grandfathers fought for Sam Morsy's right to choose. Of course, the offended are also free to feel offended, in a free country.
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