| 5 subs rule 19:27 - Jul 16 with 1744 views | Sweetman |
I think it will be key to any potential success this season. Strength in depth is fantastic now, and if we have any of Harness, Aluko, Edwards, John-Jules coming off the bench (if not all four of them regularly) it'll give us a massive boost.
I'm sure we are looking at the new rule with that in mind, given we now seem to have a fair few versatile attackers in the building. |  | | |  |
| 5 subs rule on 19:55 - Jul 16 with 1663 views | have_a_word_with_him |
I like the new rule and agree with you in principle about our position, but also football isn't always straightforward and just bringing on decent subs doesn't always work as it can change or disrupt the rhythm of the team. Interesting challenge for managers, will be fun to see how all of them use the increased options, and surely it's better for players as more chance of getting on the pitch. |  | | |
| 5 subs rule on 21:09 - Jul 16 with 1582 views | Sharkey |
| 5 subs rule on 19:55 - Jul 16 by have_a_word_with_him |
I like the new rule and agree with you in principle about our position, but also football isn't always straightforward and just bringing on decent subs doesn't always work as it can change or disrupt the rhythm of the team. Interesting challenge for managers, will be fun to see how all of them use the increased options, and surely it's better for players as more chance of getting on the pitch. |
I agree , -it won't be straightforward. As I've said before, I think if refs don't crack down it will just allow teams to pick up a couple more bookings for what has come to be known as sh*t-housery, on the basis that when a player gets a yellow he can be replaced with someone with a clean slate. it's a great advantage to be able to bring on a couple of 'enforcers' who haven't had a yellow card with 25 minutes left to play. |  | | |
| 5 subs rule on 23:38 - Jul 16 with 1449 views | RobTheMonk |
I think 5 is a little too many subs.4 seems more logical to me as you could then change a goalie, defender, midfield and attacker (not that you would change one of each). |  | | |
| 5 subs rule on 00:27 - Jul 17 with 1420 views | X0Y0 |
| 5 subs rule on 21:09 - Jul 16 by Sharkey |
I agree , -it won't be straightforward. As I've said before, I think if refs don't crack down it will just allow teams to pick up a couple more bookings for what has come to be known as sh*t-housery, on the basis that when a player gets a yellow he can be replaced with someone with a clean slate. it's a great advantage to be able to bring on a couple of 'enforcers' who haven't had a yellow card with 25 minutes left to play. |
Completely agree. I’ve been nervous about this for a while.
Last season we often looked very threatening in the last 30, when teams had tired and space opened up. Now teams can run harder to absorb that pressure and potentially replace half their outfield team to address that, plus packing the defence / midfield.
Combine that with the opportunity for more professional fouls, as you have highlighted, then I think it may not have the impact everyone assumes on favouring teams with more attacking depth. | | | |
| 5 subs rule on 00:29 - Jul 17 with 1411 views | X0Y0 |
| 5 subs rule on 23:38 - Jul 16 by RobTheMonk |
I think 5 is a little too many subs.4 seems more logical to me as you could then change a goalie, defender, midfield and attacker (not that you would change one of each). |
I would have changed it to be 3 subs, plus a nominated goalkeeper substitute allowed at any time, so 4 in total. No nobody really wants to see a team lose because their goalkeeper gets injured but all 3 subs have been used. | | | |
| 5 subs rule on 09:15 - Jul 17 with 1210 views | bluestandard |
| 5 subs rule on 00:27 - Jul 17 by X0Y0 |
Completely agree. I’ve been nervous about this for a while.
Last season we often looked very threatening in the last 30, when teams had tired and space opened up. Now teams can run harder to absorb that pressure and potentially replace half their outfield team to address that, plus packing the defence / midfield.
Combine that with the opportunity for more professional fouls, as you have highlighted, then I think it may not have the impact everyone assumes on favouring teams with more attacking depth. |
I understand the concern here, but it assumes that we will be as ineffective at breaking down the opposition as we were at times last season. If that turns out to be the case, then yes the 5 sub rule may work against us sometimes. The hope of course is that we are a bit more ruthless this season and the opposition are faced with having to use their subs to chase the game. I don’t think 5 subs is going to be critical to success, but on balance I think it gives teams with larger high quality squads a slight advantage. | | | |
| 5 subs rule on 12:31 - Jul 17 with 1133 views | Wickets |
I was thinking it might suit us as of course we have a largish squad of quality players at this level . |  | | |
| 5 subs rule on 14:12 - Jul 17 with 1089 views | ParisBlue |
| 5 subs rule on 00:29 - Jul 17 by X0Y0 |
I would have changed it to be 3 subs, plus a nominated goalkeeper substitute allowed at any time, so 4 in total. No nobody really wants to see a team lose because their goalkeeper gets injured but all 3 subs have been used. |
Outfield players having to go in goal is one of the lost joys of modern day football.
Making the goalkeeper sub separate makes sense.
Especially in league one where away goalies struggle with cramp so badly at PR when holding on for a draw. |  |
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| 5 subs rule on 14:40 - Jul 17 with 1065 views | Sharkey |
| 5 subs rule on 09:15 - Jul 17 by bluestandard |
I understand the concern here, but it assumes that we will be as ineffective at breaking down the opposition as we were at times last season. If that turns out to be the case, then yes the 5 sub rule may work against us sometimes. The hope of course is that we are a bit more ruthless this season and the opposition are faced with having to use their subs to chase the game. I don’t think 5 subs is going to be critical to success, but on balance I think it gives teams with larger high quality squads a slight advantage. |
yes, - these concerns pretty much disappear as soon as you score first. All managers in league 2 (I don't know about league 1) go on and on about the importance of the first goal, and it seems to turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy.
But I still feel that in principle a team holding out for a point or even hanging on for a win benefits more from the new regulations. (But actually they were used two seasons ago no?) Replacing a tired Harry Pell on a card with a fresh Harry Pell on no card is likely to be of more value than replacing the most clinical striker with the not-quite-as-clinical striker.
Ideally the benefit of having five subs is that it should mean that with a game already won (or for that matter lost) with twenty minutes left, young players can get some minutes on the pitch to ease them into first-team football. But this is perhaps less relevant to Town, who far more often than not will have a bench full of seasoned pro's. | | | |
| 5 subs rule on 16:03 - Jul 17 with 1006 views | Oldsmoker |
Here's an idea and I wonder what you all think.
A player who has been subbed can also be used as a substitute. |  |
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