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Wuhan Flu 19:35 - Oct 4 with 5481 viewsEsteemed_Canon

So yet another weekend has passed with pubs closing farcically early and more issues being caused by people just drinking loads in a short period of time.

I think enough is enough, we need to stop being defensive over this. Open up stadiums and venues and let us get on with life.

Also I see many people not wearing masks and they seem to be ok so why not make the wearing of PPE optional, give people a choice?
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Wuhan Flu on 22:35 - Oct 4 with 704 viewsvapour_trail

Wuhan Flu on 22:34 - Oct 4 by SpruceMoose

I think the third paragraph was extremely necessary. Especially having lived through the first two.


Fair enough. I disagree. I find it tiresome. Don’t be the next libero.

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Wuhan Flu on 22:36 - Oct 4 with 689 viewsBluesquid

Wuhan Flu on 22:31 - Oct 4 by SpruceMoose

If any of the downvoters actually care to respond that would be lovely. I'll pass their comments onto the families of my dead colleagues.
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What? And be on the receiving end of abuse from you?

Best to just ignore bullies, they'll get their comeuppance in the end.
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Wuhan Flu on 22:38 - Oct 4 with 691 viewsSpruceMoose

Wuhan Flu on 22:35 - Oct 4 by vapour_trail

Fair enough. I disagree. I find it tiresome. Don’t be the next libero.


But I like Teddy Bishop?

I'm happy to debate sensibly with almost anyone. If you yourself wanted to talk about the limits of personal freedom for example, then I'd be game. I dare say it would be pretty interesting.

Paz lost that right to be considered a reasonable debater a long time ago though. Not just with his excusing racism, but by the fact he never addresses any thing remotely factual that's put to him.

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Wuhan Flu on 22:39 - Oct 4 with 687 viewsSpruceMoose

Wuhan Flu on 22:36 - Oct 4 by Bluesquid

What? And be on the receiving end of abuse from you?

Best to just ignore bullies, they'll get their comeuppance in the end.


Can't see your post contents sorry. You're on the div list.

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Wuhan Flu on 22:39 - Oct 4 with 682 viewsjeera

Wuhan Flu on 22:35 - Oct 4 by vapour_trail

Fair enough. I disagree. I find it tiresome. Don’t be the next libero.


Don't you also get fed up of reading the same self-centred BS though? I do.

In fact, I don't why I get sucked into these threads anymore, you know what you're getting and none of them are going to take any notice.

When people think that others expecting them to do their bit is 'sanctimonious' then you know you're wasting your time.

Edit: go and submit the first single you bought and don't be a coward. Be honest and nothing too cool.
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Well it looks like a duck, it sounds like a duck. Nope, dunno what it is.
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Wuhan Flu on 22:40 - Oct 4 with 667 viewsBluesquid

Wuhan Flu on 22:39 - Oct 4 by SpruceMoose

Can't see your post contents sorry. You're on the div list.


Womp womp
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Wuhan Flu on 22:49 - Oct 4 with 637 viewsvapour_trail

Wuhan Flu on 22:39 - Oct 4 by jeera

Don't you also get fed up of reading the same self-centred BS though? I do.

In fact, I don't why I get sucked into these threads anymore, you know what you're getting and none of them are going to take any notice.

When people think that others expecting them to do their bit is 'sanctimonious' then you know you're wasting your time.

Edit: go and submit the first single you bought and don't be a coward. Be honest and nothing too cool.
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Heh. I love you jeera. I’ve no truck with this libetarian bu11sh1t, you know that.

It was probably a limited edition numbered release on vegan vinyl by Suicide, that came out before I was born, I’m that cool.

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Wuhan Flu on 22:49 - Oct 4 with 629 viewsreusersfreekicks

Wuhan Flu on 20:40 - Oct 4 by 26_Paz

You can’t put a price on freedom


So extreme. So ridichulous. Freedom to infect and kill eh?
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Wuhan Flu on 22:51 - Oct 4 with 621 viewsjeera

Wuhan Flu on 22:49 - Oct 4 by vapour_trail

Heh. I love you jeera. I’ve no truck with this libetarian bu11sh1t, you know that.

It was probably a limited edition numbered release on vegan vinyl by Suicide, that came out before I was born, I’m that cool.


Go and post Banana Rock by the Wombles on that thread like everyone else!

Well it looks like a duck, it sounds like a duck. Nope, dunno what it is.
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Wuhan Flu on 22:51 - Oct 4 with 616 viewsvapour_trail

Wuhan Flu on 22:51 - Oct 4 by jeera

Go and post Banana Rock by the Wombles on that thread like everyone else!


I think it might have been tears for fears.

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Wuhan Flu on 22:56 - Oct 4 with 599 viewsjeera

Wuhan Flu on 22:51 - Oct 4 by vapour_trail

I think it might have been tears for fears.


Sigh.

If you want something done...

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Wuhan Flu on 23:24 - Oct 4 with 578 viewsBryanPlug

The selfish c0cks who don’t wear masks (through choice, not through medical necessity) are exactly the sort of people who go on about the Dunkirk spirit and complain about other people being anti-social or non-law abiding. Yet they think it’s ok to flout the rules and potentially endanger others (I frankly don’t care if they endanger themselves as they are so selfish, except that they risk wasting the time of the health services). Hopefully if these idiots get the virus they don’t spread it to anyone else apart from their gammon mates.
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Wuhan Flu on 23:30 - Oct 4 with 566 viewsSpruceMoose

Wuhan Flu on 23:24 - Oct 4 by BryanPlug

The selfish c0cks who don’t wear masks (through choice, not through medical necessity) are exactly the sort of people who go on about the Dunkirk spirit and complain about other people being anti-social or non-law abiding. Yet they think it’s ok to flout the rules and potentially endanger others (I frankly don’t care if they endanger themselves as they are so selfish, except that they risk wasting the time of the health services). Hopefully if these idiots get the virus they don’t spread it to anyone else apart from their gammon mates.
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Quite. They'd probably be doing society a favour in the long run if they end up checking out through their own selfishness and arrogance.

It's a shame we can't guarantee that they don't take several other undeserving people with them too, otherwise I'd be all for it.

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Wuhan Flu on 23:54 - Oct 4 with 550 views26_Paz

Wuhan Flu on 23:30 - Oct 4 by SpruceMoose

Quite. They'd probably be doing society a favour in the long run if they end up checking out through their own selfishness and arrogance.

It's a shame we can't guarantee that they don't take several other undeserving people with them too, otherwise I'd be all for it.


And you were lecturing me about making ‘awful’ comments. You’re a hypocrit as well as an abusive bully.

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Wuhan Flu on 23:59 - Oct 4 with 546 views26_Paz

Wuhan Flu on 22:38 - Oct 4 by SpruceMoose

But I like Teddy Bishop?

I'm happy to debate sensibly with almost anyone. If you yourself wanted to talk about the limits of personal freedom for example, then I'd be game. I dare say it would be pretty interesting.

Paz lost that right to be considered a reasonable debater a long time ago though. Not just with his excusing racism, but by the fact he never addresses any thing remotely factual that's put to him.


Nice of you to admit that you treat me differently to other posters. Bully.

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Wuhan Flu on 00:07 - Oct 5 with 541 viewsSpruceMoose

Wuhan Flu on 23:59 - Oct 4 by 26_Paz

Nice of you to admit that you treat me differently to other posters. Bully.


You get treated how you deserve. Context, that's your word of the month right?

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Wuhan Flu on 02:01 - Oct 5 with 516 viewsJ2BLUE

Wuhan Flu on 21:05 - Oct 4 by 26_Paz

Well that’s a ridiculous statement because it quite evidently has. Whether you think restrictions are proportionate or not is a debate, the government telling you how many people you can socialise with is a restriction placed upon individual freedoms, that’s just a fact.


Connect the dots. Restrictions are placed on how many people you can socialise with to protect the NHS. Even if you're happy to take your chances can't you think about your family? Did you see the scenes in Italy? People in beds in corridors literally dying a slow death alone. Imagine that was one of your parents, your grandparents, your brother, your sister etc etc. There must be someone you care about. I'm sure your 'freedom' feels really important when you're imagining someone else's elderly/ill relatives dying but this has as much chance of affecting the people you love as it does anyone else.

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Wuhan Flu on 02:08 - Oct 5 with 507 viewsSpruceMoose

Wuhan Flu on 02:01 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE

Connect the dots. Restrictions are placed on how many people you can socialise with to protect the NHS. Even if you're happy to take your chances can't you think about your family? Did you see the scenes in Italy? People in beds in corridors literally dying a slow death alone. Imagine that was one of your parents, your grandparents, your brother, your sister etc etc. There must be someone you care about. I'm sure your 'freedom' feels really important when you're imagining someone else's elderly/ill relatives dying but this has as much chance of affecting the people you love as it does anyone else.


"There must be someone you care about".

Just Boris. And he's already had it.

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Wuhan Flu on 02:24 - Oct 5 with 496 viewsjeera

Wuhan Flu on 02:01 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE

Connect the dots. Restrictions are placed on how many people you can socialise with to protect the NHS. Even if you're happy to take your chances can't you think about your family? Did you see the scenes in Italy? People in beds in corridors literally dying a slow death alone. Imagine that was one of your parents, your grandparents, your brother, your sister etc etc. There must be someone you care about. I'm sure your 'freedom' feels really important when you're imagining someone else's elderly/ill relatives dying but this has as much chance of affecting the people you love as it does anyone else.


Dunno where you get your patience.

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Wuhan Flu on 06:05 - Oct 5 with 466 views26_Paz

Wuhan Flu on 02:01 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE

Connect the dots. Restrictions are placed on how many people you can socialise with to protect the NHS. Even if you're happy to take your chances can't you think about your family? Did you see the scenes in Italy? People in beds in corridors literally dying a slow death alone. Imagine that was one of your parents, your grandparents, your brother, your sister etc etc. There must be someone you care about. I'm sure your 'freedom' feels really important when you're imagining someone else's elderly/ill relatives dying but this has as much chance of affecting the people you love as it does anyone else.


Wow, this is a lot more difficult than it needs to be. Of course, it can be argued that the restrictions are justified. A poster earlier tried to argue that as people weren’t physically locked in their houses their freedom had not been compromised. It was this point that I was explaining was blatantly ridiculous.

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Wuhan Flu on 07:26 - Oct 5 with 416 viewsNewcyBlue

Wuhan Flu on 06:05 - Oct 5 by 26_Paz

Wow, this is a lot more difficult than it needs to be. Of course, it can be argued that the restrictions are justified. A poster earlier tried to argue that as people weren’t physically locked in their houses their freedom had not been compromised. It was this point that I was explaining was blatantly ridiculous.


You’re free to come and go from your home.

Your freedom has never been in question. The very fact you think that because you cannot sit down the pub with 6 mates, although I doubt you have such, that your freedom has been compromised.

Try being shot at by the Army whilst standing outside your own home. Try being in the Armed Forces on deployment. Try being one of those uni students who ARE locked in their halls of residence with private security standing outside to keep them in.

You’re just selfish.

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Wuhan Flu on 07:51 - Oct 5 with 392 views26_Paz

Wuhan Flu on 07:26 - Oct 5 by NewcyBlue

You’re free to come and go from your home.

Your freedom has never been in question. The very fact you think that because you cannot sit down the pub with 6 mates, although I doubt you have such, that your freedom has been compromised.

Try being shot at by the Army whilst standing outside your own home. Try being in the Armed Forces on deployment. Try being one of those uni students who ARE locked in their halls of residence with private security standing outside to keep them in.

You’re just selfish.


No need for personal insults

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Wuhan Flu on 07:54 - Oct 5 with 390 viewsDanTheMan

Wuhan Flu on 02:01 - Oct 5 by J2BLUE

Connect the dots. Restrictions are placed on how many people you can socialise with to protect the NHS. Even if you're happy to take your chances can't you think about your family? Did you see the scenes in Italy? People in beds in corridors literally dying a slow death alone. Imagine that was one of your parents, your grandparents, your brother, your sister etc etc. There must be someone you care about. I'm sure your 'freedom' feels really important when you're imagining someone else's elderly/ill relatives dying but this has as much chance of affecting the people you love as it does anyone else.


Also worth mentioning as I pointed out in a different thread, that even if you are also OK with your family getting it (or they were OK with it), you'd then need to check with everyone else they were also in contact with and so on.

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Wuhan Flu on 08:05 - Oct 5 with 378 viewsStokieBlue

Wuhan Flu on 07:51 - Oct 5 by 26_Paz

No need for personal insults


It's not an insult though. It's an observation backed up by your posting history and numerous responses in this thread such as the one about "no price on freedom". You've not responded to any of my posts since then because I think you know it was an awful statement to make in the context we were discussing.

An insult is unjustified or unsupported.

SB

“You may not feel outstandingly robust, but if you are an average-sized adult you will contain within your modest frame no less than 7 X 10^18 joules of potential energy—enough to explode with the force of thirty very large hydrogen bombs, assuming you knew how to liberate it and really wished to make a point."

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Wuhan Flu on 08:10 - Oct 5 with 365 views26_Paz

Wuhan Flu on 08:05 - Oct 5 by StokieBlue

It's not an insult though. It's an observation backed up by your posting history and numerous responses in this thread such as the one about "no price on freedom". You've not responded to any of my posts since then because I think you know it was an awful statement to make in the context we were discussing.

An insult is unjustified or unsupported.

SB


Saying that freedom is invaluable is something I absolutely stand by. I’m sorry if you feel there’s points you’ve made that I haven’t responded to, if you clarify what they are I will be happy to respond

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