| US election megathread 03:24 - Sep 23 with 163011 views | SpruceMoose |
Seeing as we are approaching the presidential debates, and with the actual election being only 42 days away, maybe we could keep this as a US election megathread for those on here who are interested? One location for all the discussion would prevent multiple threads clogging up the board for those who don't care to get involved?
Personally, the reality of having to experience this election in the near future is stressful AF so if anyone else wants to get stressed together... Jump on board.
Now, insert all the usual caveats about polling here but...it's looking positive that we will be rid of Trump come 2021, much to the disappointment of a couple of posters on here. 538 are well respected in the field of poll analysis so what they announce should be taken seriously.
Of course their analysis doesn't take account of any election fraud, Russian interference, voter suppression etc. But it's positive news none the less. Once Trump is gone, we can work on Johnson. Decent people of the world... Unite!
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/ [Post edited 23 Sep 2020 3:32]
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| US election megathread on 15:07 - Nov 4 with 2250 views | wkj |
| US election megathread on 15:01 - Nov 4 by Mercian |
No Covid = Trump landslide. |
I don't see this. I think Trumps brush with covid actually made people more at ease with the pandemic. I mean, it bolstered BoJo when he went through it too. |  |
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| US election megathread on 15:09 - Nov 4 with 2247 views | Funge |
| US election megathread on 15:07 - Nov 4 by wkj |
I don't see this. I think Trumps brush with covid actually made people more at ease with the pandemic. I mean, it bolstered BoJo when he went through it too. |
I think what man Mercian is saying is that if there's no pandemic, Trump romps home. I'm in broad agreement.
Agree that Trump's infection and subsequent recovery did, as you say, probably put a lot of people at ease regarding the impact of COVID. |  | | |
| US election megathread on 15:10 - Nov 4 with 2243 views | Dyland |
| US election megathread on 15:07 - Nov 4 by Funge |
Dyllers old fruit I posted on here to you a while back, that we were at the turn of the tide. (I may have been high at the time)
I still stand by that comment. |
I think I remember Fungers :) :( |  |
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| US election megathread on 15:11 - Nov 4 with 2230 views | footers |
| US election megathread on 15:09 - Nov 4 by Funge |
I think what man Mercian is saying is that if there's no pandemic, Trump romps home. I'm in broad agreement.
Agree that Trump's infection and subsequent recovery did, as you say, probably put a lot of people at ease regarding the impact of COVID. |
It's baffling how 230k dead doesn't seem to worry some people. Takes all sorts, I spose, and we're seeing much the same over here. Only slightly more British, proper and reserved. Less of the assault rifley stuff. |  |
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| US election megathread on 15:12 - Nov 4 with 2227 views | wkj |
| US election megathread on 15:09 - Nov 4 by Funge |
I think what man Mercian is saying is that if there's no pandemic, Trump romps home. I'm in broad agreement.
Agree that Trump's infection and subsequent recovery did, as you say, probably put a lot of people at ease regarding the impact of COVID. |
I'm a bit tired now, so you may be right. That said, whatever happens in US and UK elections - I hope we start seeing politicians actually putting together manifestos we talk about rather than how sh1t the other candidate is. | |
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| US election megathread on 15:16 - Nov 4 with 2201 views | Mercian |
Biden now 2/9 on. Sleepy Joe seems to have woken up. |  | | |
| US election megathread on 15:21 - Nov 4 with 2175 views | bluelagos |
| US election megathread on 15:16 - Nov 4 by Mercian |
Biden now 2/9 on. Sleepy Joe seems to have woken up. |
All looking good - if Biden can nail it without Pennslyvannia then they avoid all the court cases too. Fingers crossed. |  |
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| US election megathread on 15:22 - Nov 4 with 2170 views | LankHenners |
| US election megathread on 15:11 - Nov 4 by footers |
It's baffling how 230k dead doesn't seem to worry some people. Takes all sorts, I spose, and we're seeing much the same over here. Only slightly more British, proper and reserved. Less of the assault rifley stuff. |
The American voters haven't been able to connect the effects of the pandemic with *politics*, which is really a failing of the Dem campaign as it should have been easy. Keeping Biden hidden away and only coming out to say vague 'this is his fault, we'll be better' didn't really wash with enough people. |  |
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| US election megathread on 15:24 - Nov 4 with 2157 views | wkj |
| US election megathread on 15:11 - Nov 4 by footers |
It's baffling how 230k dead doesn't seem to worry some people. Takes all sorts, I spose, and we're seeing much the same over here. Only slightly more British, proper and reserved. Less of the assault rifley stuff. |
I don't like doing this, but to play Devil's Advocate - I don't think the American people can realistically see how Biden or anyone else would have controlled the situation any better. | |
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| US election megathread on 15:28 - Nov 4 with 2138 views | footers |
| US election megathread on 15:24 - Nov 4 by wkj |
I don't like doing this, but to play Devil's Advocate - I don't think the American people can realistically see how Biden or anyone else would have controlled the situation any better. |
By not suggesting that it's a hoax and that people should inject themselves with bleach?
But I do agree it was going to be tough to control the spread in a country of such size with many citizens who get spooked at the thought of any form of government interference, even if benign. | |
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| US election megathread on 15:30 - Nov 4 with 2131 views | footers |
| US election megathread on 15:22 - Nov 4 by LankHenners |
The American voters haven't been able to connect the effects of the pandemic with *politics*, which is really a failing of the Dem campaign as it should have been easy. Keeping Biden hidden away and only coming out to say vague 'this is his fault, we'll be better' didn't really wash with enough people. |
That's true. I thought the campaign was poor from Biden. I mean, what was he actually offering besides not being Trump? I'd come to think his calmness and relatively boring persona would be a good foil for Trump, but then there always was going to be a bit of passion lacking.
He shoud still win though, which would be a great reset after the last four years. The crazies aren't going anywhere fast though! | |
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| US election megathread on 15:32 - Nov 4 with 2114 views | Half_Idiot |
| US election megathread on 14:58 - Nov 4 by wkj |
Maine and Nebraska has two democratic regions that count as stand-alone electoral colleges.
NV (2pts) - NV1 (1pt) - NV2 (1pt)
Trump - Trump - Biden
ME (2pts) - ME1 (1pt) -ME2 (1pt)
Biden - Biden - Biden
So I expect the 4 points are NV1 + 2 and ME1 + 2 |
I don't think Alaska has been called yet, not that it's up for contention.
Edit. Looks like 1 unallocated in Maine [Post edited 4 Nov 2020 15:36]
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| US election megathread on 15:34 - Nov 4 with 2110 views | LankHenners |
| US election megathread on 15:30 - Nov 4 by footers |
That's true. I thought the campaign was poor from Biden. I mean, what was he actually offering besides not being Trump? I'd come to think his calmness and relatively boring persona would be a good foil for Trump, but then there always was going to be a bit of passion lacking.
He shoud still win though, which would be a great reset after the last four years. The crazies aren't going anywhere fast though! |
The Dems pretty much did the same as 2016, i.e. 'Jesus Christ have you seen the other guy?!', but with a more likable candidate.
Yeah, at least he looks like he'll win, although I don't believe for a second it makes American politics 'good' again. | |
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| US election megathread on 15:36 - Nov 4 with 2092 views | ElderGrizzly |
| US election megathread on 15:21 - Nov 4 by bluelagos |
All looking good - if Biden can nail it without Pennslyvannia then they avoid all the court cases too. Fingers crossed. |
Biden's team just went through all the court cases the Trump team have brought in the last few weeks to try and stop counts of votes of various types.
Everyone dismissed by every court |  | | |
| US election megathread on 15:37 - Nov 4 with 2063 views | Ryorry |
| US election megathread on 15:34 - Nov 4 by LankHenners |
The Dems pretty much did the same as 2016, i.e. 'Jesus Christ have you seen the other guy?!', but with a more likable candidate.
Yeah, at least he looks like he'll win, although I don't believe for a second it makes American politics 'good' again. |
I think things would soon be revived via Kamala Harris tho (if I were to assume Biden gets in - which I won't, this site knows all about stupid commentators hexing their team!). |  |
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| US election megathread on 15:37 - Nov 4 with 2081 views | Mercian |
| US election megathread on 15:24 - Nov 4 by wkj |
I don't like doing this, but to play Devil's Advocate - I don't think the American people can realistically see how Biden or anyone else would have controlled the situation any better. |
I see your point. Biden would not have shut America down as we did. For a start he does not have the power, this was seen in the early days when Trump was gunning for Governor of NY Cuomo but could do no more than that. He could not afford to politically either. He would have been more sensible though, no injecting Detol. No It will be over by Easter. No public attacks on Fauci. A few thousand may have been saved but a few thousand sadly is in the margin of error. The death of George Floyd would have still happened if Biden were the boss. The economy would still have collapsed. Sure he would not have pulled a Joffrey with his Bible stunt whilst clearing the crowd with tear gas and baton rounds but the big picture would be pretty similar. | | | |
| US election megathread on 15:44 - Nov 4 with 2056 views | wkj |
| US election megathread on 15:37 - Nov 4 by Mercian |
I see your point. Biden would not have shut America down as we did. For a start he does not have the power, this was seen in the early days when Trump was gunning for Governor of NY Cuomo but could do no more than that. He could not afford to politically either. He would have been more sensible though, no injecting Detol. No It will be over by Easter. No public attacks on Fauci. A few thousand may have been saved but a few thousand sadly is in the margin of error. The death of George Floyd would have still happened if Biden were the boss. The economy would still have collapsed. Sure he would not have pulled a Joffrey with his Bible stunt whilst clearing the crowd with tear gas and baton rounds but the big picture would be pretty similar. |
In the rural areas (at least in Kansas) Trump's demographic we're almost exclusively watching Fox news, and quite surprising how many do not use/have access to the internet and social media the way we do. It is very had to remain objective as a rural American set in your ways, it was really an eye opener being in that lesser known ecosystem of the USA. | |
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| US election megathread on 15:45 - Nov 4 with 2055 views | tractordownsouth |
Demographics will be different by then though |  |
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| US election megathread on 15:50 - Nov 4 with 2041 views | The_Romford_Blue |
I still think Trump will win Pennsylvania. Still 7/4 as he was yesterday when I had a small nibble.
It won’t matter if he does or doesn’t ultimately though |  |
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| US election megathread on 15:50 - Nov 4 with 2041 views | ElderGrizzly |
| US election megathread on 15:45 - Nov 4 by tractordownsouth |
Demographics will be different by then though |
And there is every chance, the stench of Trump will stay around. Donald Jr (if not in jail/dead) or Ivanka?
Cotton is a very likely outcome though | | | |
| US election megathread on 15:53 - Nov 4 with 2035 views | giant_stow |
| US election megathread on 15:50 - Nov 4 by ElderGrizzly |
And there is every chance, the stench of Trump will stay around. Donald Jr (if not in jail/dead) or Ivanka?
Cotton is a very likely outcome though |
Never heard of him (thanks Funge) |  |
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| US election megathread on 15:57 - Nov 4 with 2007 views | Funge |
| US election megathread on 15:53 - Nov 4 by giant_stow |
Never heard of him (thanks Funge) |
Heh, not sure thanks are really necessary Ullers!
P.s you budgie doilum etc etc | | | |
| US election megathread on 15:57 - Nov 4 with 2006 views | jeera |
| US election megathread on 15:53 - Nov 4 by giant_stow |
Never heard of him (thanks Funge) |
Strong military past.
They love all that. |  |
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| US election megathread on 16:00 - Nov 4 with 1996 views | wkj |
| US election megathread on 15:50 - Nov 4 by ElderGrizzly |
And there is every chance, the stench of Trump will stay around. Donald Jr (if not in jail/dead) or Ivanka?
Cotton is a very likely outcome though |
I think a lot of that rides on if Robert Muller's report does indeed have legal implications for Trump when he is out of office. If Trump does get arrested, then I don't think the Trump name will hold much weight in the future.
Let's not forget, Trump isn't a democrat, he isn't a republican, he is whatever he feels will lead him to win. I don't see his spawn being any different, particular Jizzstain Jr | |
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| US election megathread on 16:00 - Nov 4 with 1994 views | footers |
| US election megathread on 15:57 - Nov 4 by jeera |
Strong military past.
They love all that. |
And conversely they love draft-dodgers and people who mock veterans too.
Weird world, man. | |
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