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Manager Panic! 10:34 - Oct 22 with 4714 viewsjjblue84

Why is it that fans start squawking for the manager to be sacked in OCTOBER when a few results haven’t gone their way? 5 more goals and we’d be in the top half!! On such fine margins does the squawking begin for some...
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Manager Panic! on 10:36 - Oct 22 with 2438 viewsitfcjoe

Because we are going backwards and are bottom of the league, and he looks miles out of his depth.

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Manager Panic! on 10:36 - Oct 22 with 2436 viewsPJH

Certainly fine margins.

Should have lost to Blackburn and Brentford,could have lost at Swansea....
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Manager Panic! on 10:37 - Oct 22 with 2427 viewsJ2BLUE

Oh my god you're right, how stupid of everyone!

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Manager Panic! on 10:38 - Oct 22 with 2425 viewsskyblue23

Maybe because Hurst doesn't know his best squad let alone starting line up and we've had 2 international breaks. You also mention 5 goals? We struggle to score 1 in 90 minutes, let alone saying 5 more goals and we'd be in the top half. I respect your optimism, but after Saturday I have lost all patients and something needs to change. Preferably Evans but realistically that won't happen, so has to be Hurst.

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Manager Panic! on 10:39 - Oct 22 with 2406 viewsJ2BLUE

Manager Panic! on 10:38 - Oct 22 by skyblue23

Maybe because Hurst doesn't know his best squad let alone starting line up and we've had 2 international breaks. You also mention 5 goals? We struggle to score 1 in 90 minutes, let alone saying 5 more goals and we'd be in the top half. I respect your optimism, but after Saturday I have lost all patients and something needs to change. Preferably Evans but realistically that won't happen, so has to be Hurst.


Our goal difference is -9 as well so we could have 5 more goals and go up just one place.

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Manager Panic! on 10:50 - Oct 22 with 2364 viewsFixed_It

Manager Panic! on 10:36 - Oct 22 by itfcjoe

Because we are going backwards and are bottom of the league, and he looks miles out of his depth.


I really want it to work. But it clearly isn't. And I have always shown loyalty to our managers must longer than most

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Manager Panic! on 10:55 - Oct 22 with 2338 viewsjjblue84

Manager Panic! on 10:36 - Oct 22 by itfcjoe

Because we are going backwards and are bottom of the league, and he looks miles out of his depth.


Which you can’t tell from less than 30% of the season gone. Hilarious panic!
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Manager Panic! on 10:55 - Oct 22 with 2336 viewsWarkTheWarkITFC

If we looked like we might have got those 5 goals then fair enough.

If we looked like we were about to turn the corner then fair enough.

But we could make a serious case for actually being much better off points wise for where performances have deserved us to be. For example, we should have taken nothing at Swansea and came away with 3 points.

I wanted Hurst as manager, I supported him when people were calling for his head after 5 or 6 games, but we are now 14 games in, have won once, that was lucky and we have no shape, identity or commitment.

We look a million times worse than the start of the season when we should have an idea of the strongest side, tactics and be making improvements. We look like we are playing out the season in reverse.

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Manager Panic! on 10:56 - Oct 22 with 2325 viewsGeoffSentence

Because we look a mile off getting even one of those 5 goals.

In the 38 games in which ALB played in goal for us, we averaged 1.53 points per game which, had they been over the course of a single season, would have seen us challenging for the play offs. This at a time when we were otherwise struggling against relegation. Oh, and didn't Mick Mills have terrific posture.
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Manager Panic! on 11:00 - Oct 22 with 2305 viewsGuthrum

Correction: All the results bar one.

Five goals we haven't scored. Against that can be set several occasions when we were fortunate not to concede.

Were you not 'squawking' in October 2012?
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Manager Panic! on 11:00 - Oct 22 with 2290 viewsGarv

Manager Panic! on 10:55 - Oct 22 by WarkTheWarkITFC

If we looked like we might have got those 5 goals then fair enough.

If we looked like we were about to turn the corner then fair enough.

But we could make a serious case for actually being much better off points wise for where performances have deserved us to be. For example, we should have taken nothing at Swansea and came away with 3 points.

I wanted Hurst as manager, I supported him when people were calling for his head after 5 or 6 games, but we are now 14 games in, have won once, that was lucky and we have no shape, identity or commitment.

We look a million times worse than the start of the season when we should have an idea of the strongest side, tactics and be making improvements. We look like we are playing out the season in reverse.


What makes you say we should have taken nothing at Swansea?

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Manager Panic! on 11:02 - Oct 22 with 2274 viewschicoazul

Manager Panic! on 10:55 - Oct 22 by jjblue84

Which you can’t tell from less than 30% of the season gone. Hilarious panic!


We can always tell the people who dont go to games and actually watch the team play, you should make it less obvious.

Words are a medium that reduces reality to abstraction for transmission to our reason, and in their power to corrode reality inevitably lurks the danger that the words will be corroded too. It might be more appropriate, in fact, to liken their action to excessive stomach fluids that digest and gradually eat away the stomach itself.

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Manager Panic! on 11:05 - Oct 22 with 2259 viewsbrazil1982

Maybe I'm in panic mode now because I don't want to play Fleetwood next season?
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Manager Panic! on 11:05 - Oct 22 with 2263 viewsGuthrum

Manager Panic! on 10:55 - Oct 22 by jjblue84

Which you can’t tell from less than 30% of the season gone. Hilarious panic!


Which leaves us 70% of the season to get probably 80% of the points we will need to barely survive in this division. We're already behind the curve.

Look, I'm an eternal optimist. I defended McCarthy to the hilt, Jewell and even Keane. But I can't see any sign that Hurst really knows how to turn things around. If we'd kicked on from Swansea (or the second half against Brentford), then there might be cause for hope. But we've fallen straight back again - despite him having just had two weeks clear to drill and prepare the squad.

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Manager Panic! on 11:08 - Oct 22 with 2249 viewsjjblue84

Manager Panic! on 11:05 - Oct 22 by Guthrum

Which leaves us 70% of the season to get probably 80% of the points we will need to barely survive in this division. We're already behind the curve.

Look, I'm an eternal optimist. I defended McCarthy to the hilt, Jewell and even Keane. But I can't see any sign that Hurst really knows how to turn things around. If we'd kicked on from Swansea (or the second half against Brentford), then there might be cause for hope. But we've fallen straight back again - despite him having just had two weeks clear to drill and prepare the squad.


You mean you don’t *want* to see any signs, such as we’ve taken points from the MAJORITY of our games. How can a team with NO HOPE do that???
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Manager Panic! on 11:11 - Oct 22 with 2219 viewsPinewoodblue

Some reading material for you.
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Manager Panic! on 11:17 - Oct 22 with 2199 viewsGuthrum

Manager Panic! on 11:08 - Oct 22 by jjblue84

You mean you don’t *want* to see any signs, such as we’ve taken points from the MAJORITY of our games. How can a team with NO HOPE do that???


We've taken a single point from six out of our 13 games and three points from just the one, so an extremely narrow majority. Replicated over a whole season, that's 32 points - and definite relegation (only very rarely enough to avoid 24th place).

How is that supposed to give the fans any hope that we can even stay in this division. let alone make progress?

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Manager Panic! on 11:21 - Oct 22 with 2170 viewsjeera

You've yet to be correct on any subject you've posted on so far.

What makes you think this one's any different?

Well it looks like a duck, it sounds like a duck. Nope, dunno what it is.
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Manager Panic! on 11:24 - Oct 22 with 2163 viewsDanTheMan

Manager Panic! on 11:05 - Oct 22 by Guthrum

Which leaves us 70% of the season to get probably 80% of the points we will need to barely survive in this division. We're already behind the curve.

Look, I'm an eternal optimist. I defended McCarthy to the hilt, Jewell and even Keane. But I can't see any sign that Hurst really knows how to turn things around. If we'd kicked on from Swansea (or the second half against Brentford), then there might be cause for hope. But we've fallen straight back again - despite him having just had two weeks clear to drill and prepare the squad.


Basically where I'm at. Defended managers long past their sell-by date.

But this is different. What little plan there might have been at the start of the season has gone out the window to be replaced by nothing. Some baffling decisions in terms of team selection too.

I'm astonished Evans has not pulled the trigger. The only reasons I can think of is that he is even more an optimist than most or he wants to sell.

If it's the latter, nobody is going to want to buy us when they can get us much cheaper come next June.

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Manager Panic! on 11:26 - Oct 22 with 2156 viewsjjblue84

Manager Panic! on 11:17 - Oct 22 by Guthrum

We've taken a single point from six out of our 13 games and three points from just the one, so an extremely narrow majority. Replicated over a whole season, that's 32 points - and definite relegation (only very rarely enough to avoid 24th place).

How is that supposed to give the fans any hope that we can even stay in this division. let alone make progress?


Why would it replicate over a season? Form goes up and down! All you’re doing is taking a bad run then just multiplying it up...this is why there’s 46 games in a season and it’s not decided 28% of the way through....
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Manager Panic! on 11:30 - Oct 22 with 2129 viewsGuthrum

Manager Panic! on 11:26 - Oct 22 by jjblue84

Why would it replicate over a season? Form goes up and down! All you’re doing is taking a bad run then just multiplying it up...this is why there’s 46 games in a season and it’s not decided 28% of the way through....


OK. You tell me what evidence you have that this current form (over a considerable number of games) will not replicate over the remainder of the season?

Also, I ask again, what were your thoughts in late October 2012?

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Manager Panic! on 11:31 - Oct 22 with 2121 viewsGeoffSentence

Manager Panic! on 11:26 - Oct 22 by jjblue84

Why would it replicate over a season? Form goes up and down! All you’re doing is taking a bad run then just multiplying it up...this is why there’s 46 games in a season and it’s not decided 28% of the way through....


There is nothing to show that it will get any better. Nothing. It's more likely to get worse.

I would be interested to hear what you have seen that makes you think it will get better though.

In the 38 games in which ALB played in goal for us, we averaged 1.53 points per game which, had they been over the course of a single season, would have seen us challenging for the play offs. This at a time when we were otherwise struggling against relegation. Oh, and didn't Mick Mills have terrific posture.
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Manager Panic! on 11:35 - Oct 22 with 2104 viewsPJH

Manager Panic! on 11:26 - Oct 22 by jjblue84

Why would it replicate over a season? Form goes up and down! All you’re doing is taking a bad run then just multiplying it up...this is why there’s 46 games in a season and it’s not decided 28% of the way through....


Right, so if Hurst stays we might not do as well as we have done so far?
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Manager Panic! on 11:52 - Oct 22 with 2074 viewsjjblue84

Manager Panic! on 11:30 - Oct 22 by Guthrum

OK. You tell me what evidence you have that this current form (over a considerable number of games) will not replicate over the remainder of the season?

Also, I ask again, what were your thoughts in late October 2012?


The fact that form goes up and down for most team means it’s the most likely outcome...what would be strange is that if it DIDNT change...
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Manager Panic! on 11:53 - Oct 22 with 2069 viewsjjblue84

Manager Panic! on 11:35 - Oct 22 by PJH

Right, so if Hurst stays we might not do as well as we have done so far?


Hugely unlikely!!
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